The Destinee Hooker Injury Timeline

  • I thing everyone, including the media, Hooker, italian media, American media, Hooker's agent, italian volleyball fans, inside-volley fans, the TheUSAFAN, Armel and myself are all mispresenting the situation.


  • she planned on coming back after rehab and it's Pesaro who is now terminating her contract so what does that say?


    Maybe they did not believe that Hooker really intend to come back. She did not say even goodbye. Pesaro said that they contacted Hooker after she left but Hooker did not communicate with them or answer their calls.


    Maybe rescission of the contract was the most logical solution financially.


    Maybe the club who Hooker accused of compromising her career did not want to risk having Hooker post more accusations about them.


    Maybe Pesaro feels to have been wronged too much that they do not want to continue the relationship.


    I think it is also possible that Pesaro just think that Hooker is not a good fit for the team and that her return will not be good chemistry-wise.


    Lots of possibilities. Only Pesaro and Hooker know exactly what happened. But if fans cannot talk about volleyball news, then we severely limit the interest in being a fan.



    well, link is that they claim that she didn't need surgery, now they need to stick to they story.


    I think I agree with Armel that Pesaro has decided they don't want her back. She could have helped them. But they are no longer interested.


    For a contractual relationship to exist, there must be a meeting of the minds and a common goal. Hooker and Pesaro did not seem to agree on those team goals. There seems to be no reason to continue the relationship.


  • Yes, there are lots of possibilities. However, what I am trying to emphasize, and what your post demonstrates, is that your judgment is completely slanted in a negative way towards Hooker without any factual basis. Speculation is always part of sports and I agree in the interest of fans. However, don't you think you should consider all possibilities?


    Maybe Pesaro overreacted and Hooker had full intention of returning to the team as she stated?


    Maybe using the "financial" reasoning was an excuse considering they were the ones who had initially come up with the financial package offer prior to her arriving there? If they couldn't afford her,why would they have offered the package in the first place?


    Maybe the coach and Guiggi and Ferretti were intimidated by having a foreign player come in and play such a large part in their club? Did Flier or Senna make any disparaging remarks about Hooker?


    Maybe Pesaro put pressure on it's medical staff to delay surgery to increase their chances of winning a Champions League trophy?


    I'm not saying that any of these are the truth. But I am saying they are as valid possibilities as the ones that you have listed.


  • Maybe Pesaro overreacted and Hooker had full intention of returning to the team as she stated?


    I do not think Pesaro is one of those clubs who act fivolously and rescinds contracts. Pesaro's official statement was that Hooker did not communicate to them on the day she left and they received no response when they contacted her the days after.


    I think Hooker knew fullly the consequences of leaving. But her employer considers her actions a breach of her contract and so their decision is to process rescission.


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    Maybe using the "financial" reasoning was an excuse considering they were the ones who had initially come up with the financial package offer prior to her arriving there? If they couldn't afford her,why would they have offered the package in the first place?


    There are teams that are behind payment in making payroll, but I had not heard that Pesaro is one of them. Have you?


    Hooker's contract included playng in Champions League. If she did not play in the Final Four, she probably forfeits her salary for that. The question of what amount she deserves is probably a legal issue now (what she would have gotten as salary vs the reputationall and economical damange she caused).


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    Maybe the coach and Guiggi and Ferretti were intimidated by having a foreign player come in and play such a large part in their club? Did Flier or Senna make any disparaging remarks about Hooker?


    Do you really think their comments are because of jealousy? Guiggi is captain and along with Ferretti are veteran players of Pesaro. It makes sense that the media would try to interview them. What I read from their comments is that they worked with Hooker as much as they could, to win matches, but by the end the relationship was so bad that Hooker leaving was actually a relief to the team.


    If you can get Flier or Senna's comments then you can share them here.


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    Maybe Pesaro put pressure on it's medical staff to delay surgery to increase their chances of winning a Champions League trophy?


    If Hooker really believes that Pesaro lied to her about her injury, she should gather all the evidence she can and take them to court. The people she accused includes her team's medical staff, an orthopedic specialist in Italy and also her former agency's doctor. All these people would have needed to conspire for Hooker's story to be true.



    Yes, there are lots of possibilities. However, what I am trying to emphasize, and what your post demonstrates, is that your judgment is completely slanted in a negative way towards Hooker without any factual basis. Speculation is always part of sports and I agree in the interest of fans. However, don't you think you should consider all possibilities?


    I'm not saying that any of these are the truth. But I am saying they are as valid possibilities as the ones that you have listed.


    Then let's have people say the different possibilities like the ones you posted and let people discuss them.


    What I don't agree with is the mentality that... "she had surgery, it's done"..."fans should get over it and stop talking about it" .." there's nothing more to discuss now"


    Fans should get to talk about these things until fans are all talked out.


    You say that my judgment is completely slanted in a negative way towards Hooker. Hooker has not offered anything tangible and official as to her version of the story. Pesaro, her doctors, her former agency all have. Until Hooker puts something on the table, with her official word, there is nothing to go on from her side.


    What I do have to go on are her posts/tweets, her former club's official statements, her former agency's official statements, comments from her former teammates and coaches. I react based on those facts. Do you disagree that those are facts? They may not include Hooker's official statement (she has relased none). But I consider those facts.


    I am actually a big fan of USA volleyball but I have also followed Italian League for years now. There are inconsistencies between Hooker's claim and her club and her club's story makes more sense to me.

  • thank you bvb for the analysis, i also think like that, why should the italian players be jealous ??? i mean they played in the past with true superstars, so i dont think that they are jealous, its a weak argument. but anyway, something in this story is false and in my opinion i morely trust to the club than to hooker

  • Wow, if this were a test of reading comprehension you wouldn't have fared very well. As I stated in the post, which apparently was not clearly enough but I'll post it again...."I'm not saying that any of these are the truth." I was presenting them an examples to emphasize the opposite end of the opinion spectrum which wasn't being discussed. So the time you invested in refuting them wasn't very well spent because I am not to bother responding, but I do find some logical flaws with some of what you have to say that need to be addressed therefore I will respond starting with the most egregious statements.


    "What I do have to go on are her posts/tweets, her former club's official statements, her former agency's official statements, comments from her former teammates and coaches. I react based on those facts. Do you disagree that those are facts? They may not include Hooker's official statement (she has relased none). But I consider those facts."


    Ummm, how do I say it? HECK YES, I disagree that those are facts. A statement, regardless of whether it has the word "official" in front of it or not, is not considered to be a fact at face value. Facts are used to support statements and since you have no facts to corroborate Pesaro's statement or refute Hooker's claims you end where you begin....nowhere. The US Govt "officially" stated that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. We've come to find out that's not the case, exemplifying that statements can in fact be totally baseless even at the most "official" of levels. It appears that you'll believe the side that screams the loudest.



    "Do you really think their comments are because of jealousy? Guiggi is captain and along with Ferretti are veteran players of Pesaro. It makes sense that the media would try to interview them. What I read from their comments is that they worked with Hooker as much as they could, to win matches, but by the end the relationship was so bad that Hooker leaving was actually a relief to the team.


    If you can get Flier or Senna's comments then you can share them here."


    I said "intimidated" not "jealous." There is a substantial difference between the meanings of those words and I'd appreciate if you took that into consideration instead of being inflammatory. If I had meant jealous then I would have said it.

  • Wow, if this were a test of reading comprehension you wouldn't have fared very well. As I stated in the post, which apparently was not clearly enough but I'll post it again...."I'm not saying that any of these are the truth." I was presenting them an examples to emphasize the opposite end of the opinion spectrum which wasn't being discussed. So the time you invested in refuting them wasn't very well spent because I am not to bother responding, but I do find some logistical flaws with some of what you have to say that need to be addressed therefore I will respond starting with the most egregious statements.


    USAFAN, you were the one who said that all possibilities should be considered. You offered examples of possibilities pro-Hooker yet when I replied to the possibilities you offered, you mock me for posting what I think about them and say that I wasted my time.


    If you're telling people to consider other possibilities and that those should be discussed, do not mock them for responding.



    "What I do have to go on are her posts/tweets, her former club's official statements, her former agency's official statements, comments from her former teammates and coaches. I react based on those facts. Do you disagree that those are facts? They may not include Hooker's official statement (she has relased none). But I consider those facts."


    Ummm, how do I say it? HECK YES, I disagree that those are facts. A statement, regardless of whether it has the word "official" in front of it or not, is not considered to be a fact at face value. Facts are used to support statements and since you have no facts to corroborate Pesaro's statement or refute Hooker's claims you end where you begin....nowhere. The US Govt "officially" stated that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. We've come to find out that's not the case, exemplifying that statements can in fact be totally baseless even at the most "official" of levels. It appears that you'll believe the side that screams the loudest.


    What would you consider to be factual evidence in Hooker's case? The Actual MRI film and the printed results about her injury? Are you hoping those will be available?


    "Believing the side that screams the loudest".. Please, Pesaro has released their statement and these were corroborated by other parties. Hooker has not given any FACTS to support her claims. A person saying something "official" is not convincing to you is fine, but just because your government lied does not mean that all people lie either.




    "Do you really think their comments are because of jealousy? Guiggi is captain and along with Ferretti are veteran players of Pesaro. It makes sense that the media would try to interview them. What I read from their comments is that they worked with Hooker as much as they could, to win matches, but by the end the relationship was so bad that Hooker leaving was actually a relief to the team.


    If you can get Flier or Senna's comments then you can share them here."


    I said "intimidated" not "jealous." There is a substantial difference between the meanings of those words and I'd appreciate if you took that into consideration instead of being inflammatory. If I had meant jealous then I would have said it.


    So do you think they are intimidated by Hooker?



    Again, when you ask people to consider other possibilities, then do not shot down people who want to discuss them.

  • I'm not mocking you for responding. I'm telling you that you failed to understand the essence of what I posted. I listed those possible scenarios, which I don't think are completely plausible, as an example of how anything can be said because it's all PURE speculation. I wasn't offering them up as something that I was interested in debating. You directly quoted my post in your response so I assumed that you were expecting to hear an answer from me which was never what I was going to get into. Secondly, there is factual documentation on her Facebook, which apparently is a reliable source of information, with pictures pre/post surgery along with the X-ray pictures of her injury from her doctor, I'd consider that to an "official" statement that she was in fact injured. And nice try at jabbing the USA but I'm not even getting into that. Believe what you want to believe, Destinee will be back and sign with pretty much any team she wants to and all you naysayers who seek to stain her reputation can continue reading volleyball.it like it's the NYT.



    Factual evidence will have to be presented in court when these "legal" proceedings begin and then I guess we'll all have the answers that we're looking for.

  • You people are really motivated to write about this issue