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Monday, July 10th 2017, 8:43pm

Li Ying-ying (OH/OP): Tianjin refused her joining NT for the junior event of National Games

The mystery continues. Tianjin wants to keep her in the pocket so no chance of her getting injured playing somewhere else?
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Monday, July 10th 2017, 10:36pm

Li Ying-ying (OH/OP): Tianjin refused her joining NT for the junior event of National Games

The mystery continues. Tianjin wants to keep her in the pocket so no chance of her getting injured playing somewhere else?
Pretty much since Tianjin is a powerhouse in Chinese league. They care about success more than players.

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Monday, July 10th 2017, 11:25pm

I notice the Chinese NT use Liu Xiotong a lots (Montreux and WGP). She's 27 now and she will be 30 in 2020. I'm not criticizing the Chinese NT or saying Liu is too "old". I'm just curious about the Chinese NT strategy.

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Tuesday, July 11th 2017, 7:23am

I notice the Chinese NT use Liu Xiotong a lots (Montreux and WGP). She's 27 now and she will be 30 in 2020. I'm not criticizing the Chinese NT or saying Liu is too "old". I'm just curious about the Chinese NT strategy.
This year doesn't have the big 3 world titles so bench players and newcomers will get more playing minutes. I think Lang Ping doesn't emphasize on winning lesser events like Montreux and WGP but focus on giving players more chances to develop and improve. So far the new players don't look as promising as previous years. B team members Yao Di, Li Jing, Zheng Yixin, and Wang Yunlu have not improved at all. Gong Xiangyu seems to regress from her 2016 performance. Everyone else besides Zhu remain the same level. Lets hope Zhang Changning develops into a world class star to play alongside Zhu. Over relying on Zhu will not always work out like in 2014 World Championships when she ran out of gas during the final.

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Tuesday, July 11th 2017, 7:24am

I notice the Chinese NT use Liu Xiotong a lots (Montreux and WGP). She's 27 now and she will be 30 in 2020. I'm not criticizing the Chinese NT or saying Liu is too "old". I'm just curious about the Chinese NT strategy.

I think someone here said "China hides their game until it counts". That's probably what's happening. What's she gonna do when Zhu and Zhang wanna play? I watched some matches over the last few years where Lui seemed like the goofy kid happy to get some minutes off the bench. I'm re-watching the China Grand Prix matches and she's the cagey veteran now :roll: I think she's playing fine.

Speaking of veterans, I gotta say ... Xia Ding is killing me. That girl's got some attitude. I'm loving her to death. I'd love to watch this CHN v RUS game with one of those fancam deals on her like they do for K-Pop groups where there's a close-up camera trained on just one player.
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Tuesday, July 11th 2017, 7:52am

Another note about this WGP group - It looks to me like Xinyue Yuan has gotten quicker and has seriously upgraded her attack angles. That's scary. Imagine a front line of Zhu Ting, Xinyue Yuan, Zhang Changning. :white:

Liu Xiotong has a nice serve.

I wanted to like Yuanyuan Wang more. She's blocking okay but China shouldn't bank on being Too Big to Fail. She's a liability when she's not in the front row.

Yi Gao, so far, looks like the most impressive teenager. She looks comfortable all over the court.

I don't get Di Yao

Li Lin looks like she could do without the post-point circle dance :lol:

I miss Yanhan Liu and Junjing Yang, not to mention Wei Qiuyue and Zeng Chunlei. As the world turns, I guess.
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Tuesday, July 11th 2017, 4:02pm

I don't know if it fits here, but U20 Chinese team is Brazil doing some friendly matches against Brazil U20 team. Brazil won the first one 3x1. Few of the macth can be seen here:

https://imgturk.com/mauriciothomasvolei

Because Yang Wen-jin [No.19] is born in 1997, U20 Chinese team has to change the person for 2017 U20 WCH. Do you know the shirt number of two OHs of U20 Chinese team in the friendly match?

The roster of U20 NT in 2017 U20 WCH:
S - Cai Ya-qian, Xu Xiao-ting
OP - Chen Pei-yan, Guan Rui-ge
OH - Wu Han, Cai Xiao-qing, Liu Jia-yuan
MB - Zhang Yu-qian, Xie Xing, Yang Han-yu
L - Zang Qian-qian, Fang Jing

The change after 2017 BRICS:
Sun Yan (S) will return U18 NT and Xu Xiao-ting (S) returns U20 NT. Cai Xiao-qing (OH) is with little injury. Han Wen-yu (OH) left due to the same reason. Liu Jia-yuan (OH) replaces Yang Wen-jin (OH) born in 1997.
According to the rumor,
China U20 NT has six warm-ups - vs Beijing Senior: 1w 2l, vs Brazil U20: 2w 1l ...
My favourite roster of Chinese
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S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

My avatar is Jiang Chuan. I hope more persons love him.

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Tuesday, July 11th 2017, 6:58pm

I don't know if it fits here, but U20 Chinese team is Brazil doing some friendly matches against Brazil U20 team. Brazil won the first one 3x1. Few of the macth can be seen here:

https://imgturk.com/mauriciothomasvolei

Because Yang Wen-jin [No.19] is born in 1997, U20 Chinese team has to change the person for 2017 U20 WCH. Do you know the shirt number of two OHs of U20 Chinese team in the friendly match?

The roster of U20 NT in 2017 U20 WCH:
S - Cai Ya-qian, Xu Xiao-ting
OP - Chen Pei-yan, Guan Rui-ge
OH - Wu Han, Cai Xiao-qing, Liu Jia-yuan
MB - Zhang Yu-qian, Xie Xing, Yang Han-yu
L - Zang Qian-qian, Fang Jing

The change after 2017 BRICS:
Sun Yan (S) will return U18 NT and Xu Xiao-ting (S) returns U20 NT. Cai Xiao-qing (OH) is with little injury. Han Wen-yu (OH) left due to the same reason. Liu Jia-yuan (OH) replaces Yang Wen-jin (OH) born in 1997.
According to the rumor,
China U20 NT has six warm-ups - vs Beijing Senior: 1w 2l, vs Brazil U20: 2w 1l ...


Apparently, one of China's win was actually against Brazil U18 team.

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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 1:42am

Why is Li Yingying not in the U20 roster?

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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 4:13am


Why is Li Yingying not in the U20 roster?


Li Ying-ying (OH/OP): Tianjin refused her joining NT for the junior event of National Games

The mystery continues. Tianjin wants to keep her in the pocket so no chance of her getting injured playing somewhere else?
Pretty much since Tianjin is a powerhouse in Chinese league. They care about success more than players.
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Posted by ZodiacTTT: "Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them :down:" Reported as inappropriate but condoned by moderators who enjoy watching grumpy old men disrespect young women. Typical.

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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 7:29am

Speaking of veterans, I gotta say ... Xia Ding is killing me. That girl's got some attitude. I'm loving her to death. I'd love to watch this CHN v RUS game with one of those fancam deals on her like they do for K-Pop groups where there's a close-up camera trained on just one player.

Agree for Ding Xia. Her acrobatic digs and her spikes (unusual for a setter) are fun to watch.

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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 7:53am

Agree for Ding Xia. Her acrobatic digs and her spikes (unusual for a setter) are fun to watch.

I love it when setters spike the ball. The setter for Japan in the WGP, Koyomi Tominaga, is spiking it. With her right hand. That's double cool. Ding has an advantage being a lefty. And she's got more attitude. The way she struts around cracks me up. She has made a new fan.
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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 2:38pm

Agree for Ding Xia. Her acrobatic digs and her spikes (unusual for a setter) are fun to watch.

I love it when setters spike the ball. The setter for Japan in the WGP, Koyomi Tominaga, is spiking it. With her right hand. That's double cool. Ding has an advantage being a lefty. And she's got more attitude. The way she struts around cracks me up. She has made a new fan.
Therefore, I give you this:
Ding Xia's spike:
http://video.tudou.com/v/XMTc4NjAzMTgzMg==.html
My favourite roster of Chinese
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S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

My avatar is Jiang Chuan. I hope more persons love him.

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Wednesday, July 12th 2017, 3:21pm


Lovely. It looks like she might have been actually playing OP position in some of those. Did she?
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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 2:12am

Lovely. It looks like she might have been actually playing OP position in some of those. Did she?

Her acrobatic moves (dig and pass)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWZvXijA3l4/

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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 3:29am

Her acrobatic moves (dig and pass)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWZvXijA3l4/

I just re-watched that game yesterday and totally remember that point. She set the ball perfectly, underhanded, from way back court. Lovely, I say.
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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 3:39am

Liu Xiaotong

I have also become a Liu Xiaotong fan. I've watched from Montreux through this first WGP round and I think she is playing like a captain. She's out there with kids, for the most part. She's got a great serve, she blocks okay, she attacks strongly from all over the court. She's got a great attitude and court presence. What's not to like? Well ... she's not very quick, but nobody on China aside from Ling and Ding has much speed.

Sure, she doesn't have much of a place when Zhu and Zhang start playing, but I think she deserves a big round of applause for what she's done these past couple months.
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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 4:45am

I like Xiatong a lot as well. She had a really good season in Beijin. I wonder if Zhang will be healthy for the Finals? Otherwise Xiatong will probably be starting with Zhu.

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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 7:30am

I also like Liu Xiatong, I was just curious when I ask why Liu was used intensively. Because it's very rare a Chinese NT player with 30 yrs of age in a Olympic Games. Since she will be 30 in the Tokyo2020, I was just wondering why the Chinese NT still invest so much at her. Honestly, I will be happy for her if she can get the ticket for the Tokyo2020. This means the Chinese NT players had finally broke the over 30 yrs old barrier.

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Thursday, July 13th 2017, 7:42am

Just imagine what the Chinese coaching team might have said to Liu Xiaotong before the WGP is rolling on.

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Team Coaches: Liu, you're occasionally heard complaining a bit behind the scenes that you have got too few minutes of playing time in major tournaments.

Liu: Nope, it was not true. I never did so.

TC: Okay, never mind. That's fine. Don't be troubled with that. But now we'll give you truly plenty of hours to play on in the whole WGP sessions. Just make sure that you play well! [And have no complain over exhaustion or so.]

Liu: Be rest assured I'll do my best. Just be relaxed on myself and have your trust, coaches. [Liu told herself: Wow! This is my very moment to prove my worthiness to be treated into the core and be an inseparable part of the team. And I won't get tired to embark on the mission...]

TC: Good. That's what we'd like to hear from you.

So now Liu has [too] many hours to play on... and she can't complain for that, if any... :D

To get serious, what an encouraging development for Liu. Just around one year ago or so, she hardly be quite a firm part of the core team. But now even though Zhu and Zhang are around, Liu seems to get a very firm hold there.


Liu Xiaotong was awarded the most favorite volleyball player of the year voted by fans - Radio Beijing (RBC) in 2016

I recall someone in this board commented that Liu's insertion into the court was one of the key factors that turned over the match versus the Brazilian team in Rio.

A short compilation video on Liu: https://youtu.be/PUIYXNUtgf8

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