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Wednesday, June 7th 2017, 3:00pm

Even China walked all over Swiss in last night match, the starting setter Di Yao seems too weak to high level competition

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Wednesday, June 7th 2017, 5:14pm

Yao Di was a disappointment at last's year Montreux. Then again at Asian Cup, losing to Kazakhstan for the first time. Got bailed out by Zhang Changning and Gong Xiangyu in the playoffs. This Montreux so far relying on Gong in the 1st match. If she doesn't improve, then she will end up like Shen Jingsi.

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Wednesday, June 7th 2017, 5:33pm

I didn't realize Gong Xiangyu is so young. Chinese NT has a lot of monsters in their early 20s.
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Wednesday, June 7th 2017, 6:13pm

Let's focus on the whole players of Chinese NT instead of only Hui Ruo-qi, shall we?
I like the new two MBs, Gao Yi and Wang Yuan-yuan.

Both MBs, Gao Yi and Wang Yuan-yuan, did good jobs in the first match vs SUI. Let see further when the challenges are up by stronger opponents. A couple of players have not yet got the [enough] playing time in the 1st match such as Wang Chen-yue, Xu Ruo-ya... Wang Hui-min just came in at the closing of the match. Wonder whether the level of play of Zheng Yi-xin has been upped or not... Gong Xiang-yu is even more effective nowadays, she has been improving significantly. Li Jing remains good.

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Thursday, June 8th 2017, 12:05am

The more experienced Yao Di and Li Jing really need to improve their game in order to make it to A team. Yao still has troubles with double touches, bad decision making, and poor sets to hitters. Li Jing only plays well with her provincial team in the Chinese League.

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Thursday, June 8th 2017, 6:18am

The more experienced Yao Di and Li Jing really need to improve their game in order to make it to A team. Yao still has troubles with double touches, bad decision making, and poor sets to hitters. Li Jing only plays well with her provincial team in the Chinese League.

Right, they're still the familiar faces in the NT (Gong Xiang-yu, Liu Xiao-tong, Lin Li) who propped the team in yesterday's match against NED. Hard to tell about the rest... though the young Gao Yi and partially fielded Zheng Yi-xin were still okay, overall the CHN team's performance was not great yesterday, they're struggling to stop the shining Plak, the blockers just worked with little successes while they themselves got blocked often. Losing the opening set also made the match much tougher than it supposed to be. But perhaps it's simply natural thing to deal with team experimentation, new compositions that hardly play together... look forward for better cohesion as the team goes with more matches.

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Sunday, June 11th 2017, 3:35pm

Diao Lin-yu is injured. I don't hope her injury be too heavy.
Congratuations!
Chinese NT got the bronze medal of Montreux 2017.
My favourite roster of Chinese
male NT:
S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

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Monday, June 12th 2017, 3:09am

Things are not looking good for Yao Di and Li Jing who have been with the B team since 2014. Yao still has a chance because Wei is aging with 2 bummed knees so there's a need for a replacement setter for 2020. Li Jing, on the other hand, can't even compete with Liu Xiaotong, 4th choice for OHs. She is in big trouble of getting dumped all together. The young MBs look promising to create a new and young Great Wall. I hope to see the young players get more chances in the upcoming WGP.

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Monday, June 12th 2017, 7:51pm

I just re-watched the 2016.07.31 AVC U19 Championship JPN v CHN game because I can't get enough of WU Han.

She is a beastling. I wish they would have tried her out in the Montreux games. Must be tough to be a young Chinese attacker when a few of the best players in the world are in front of you and they are in their early twenties. :wall:

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Tuesday, June 13th 2017, 7:35am

I just re-watched the 2016.07.31 AVC U19 Championship JPN v CHN game because I can't get enough of WU Han.

She is a beastling. I wish they would have tried her out in the Montreux games. Must be tough to be a young Chinese attacker when a few of the best players in the world are in front of you and they are in their early twenties. :wall:

Girl's been added to my Favorites

Yup, better to give chance to groom WU Han (born 1998, 183 cm, wing spiker, Club: Jiangsu), she's still young, more promising than LI Jing (born 1991, 186 cm, Zhejiang). I think LI Jing is already maxed out, hard to improve further, watching her plays in the last two years, no progress, she's good at the continental level but not up to the top level competition. The other young player, the quiet QIAN Jing-wen also has more potential than LI imo. As well as the young MB, GAO Yi and WANG Yuan-yuan are worth to be given more international competition exposure, I hope these young players (Qian, Gao, Wang) will gain some playing time at the 2017 WGP.

Well, I hope DIAO Lin-yu was not seriously injured and is able to join at this WGP.

Update: upon relooking at just the WGP 2017 Wide Roster of the CHN team, I think it's pretty tough for WU Han to make an inroad into non-age bracket team in near future, if ever, there are just many players with possibly better bet at this position: LIU Yan-han; WANG Yun-lu; QIAN Jing-wen; LI Ying-ying... in addition to those sure choices. Yes, tough life to exist at the same era... :pinch: :whistling:

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Tuesday, June 13th 2017, 2:02pm

2017 Guangzhou BRIC Games - women's volleyball event

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5159491125

Date: June 17 - June 21
Team: China [U20 NT], Russia, India, Brazil and South Africa

The team is lack of many players - Cai Xiao-qing [time conflict and injury], Qian Jing-wen [senior NT], Gao Yi [senior NT], Ou-yang Qian-qian [unknown or to prepare for the junior event of Chinese National Games?], Xu Xiao-qing [the same as Ou-yang Qian-qian]

Just I guess the roster:
S - Cai Ya-qian, Sun Yan
OP - Chen Pei-yan [Qian Jing-wen and Ou-yang Qian-qian both without time]
OH - Han Wen-ya, Wu Han, Yang Wen-jin
MB - Xie Xing, Zhang Yu-qian, Yang Han-yu
L - Zang Qian-qian, Xu Jia-nan

Guangdong Sports Channel will give the replay [Time:UTC+8]:
June 17 - 19:30 China - India
June 18 - 23:05 China - Russia
The schedule of next week is unknown now.

The links of Guangdong Sports:
http://sports.gdtv.cn/
http://www.myp2pch.net/tiantian2.html?c=gdty&w=800&h=600
maybe need VPN and other softwares
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S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

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Tuesday, June 13th 2017, 3:38pm

I just re-watched the 2016.07.31 AVC U19 Championship JPN v CHN game because I can't get enough of WU Han.

She is a beastling. I wish they would have tried her out in the Montreux games. Must be tough to be a young Chinese attacker when a few of the best players in the world are in front of you and they are in their early twenties. :wall:

Girl's been added to my Favorites

Yup, better to give chance to groom WU Han (born 1998, 183 cm, wing spiker, Club: Jiangsu), she's still young, more promising than LI Jing (born 1991, 186 cm, Zhejiang). I think LI Jing is already maxed out, hard to improve further, watching her plays in the last two years, no progress, she's good at the continental level but not up to the top level competition. The other young player, the quiet QIAN Jing-wen also has more potential than LI imo. As well as the young MB, GAO Yi and WANG Yuan-yuan are worth to be given more international competition exposure, I hope these young players (Qian, Gao, Wang) will gain some playing time at the 2017 WGP.

Well, I hope DIAO Lin-yu was not seriously injured and is able to join at this WGP.

Update: upon relooking at just the WGP 2017 Wide Roster of the CHN team, I think it's pretty tough for WU Han to make an inroad into non-age bracket team in near future, if ever, there are just many players with possibly better bet at this position: LIU Yan-han; WANG Yun-lu; QIAN Jing-wen; LI Ying-ying... in addition to those sure choices. Yes, tough life to exist at the same era... :pinch: :whistling:
None of these players are better than Liu Xiaotong so Wu Han still has a chance if she proves exceptional. Her disadvantage is height since coaches like taller players. I think Wang Yunlu is not better than Li Jing. She is tall with a serve but that's about it. The best OHs lineup is still Zhu, Zhang, Hui, and Liu X.

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Tuesday, June 13th 2017, 9:17pm

As I say, must be tough to be an aspiring clobber specialist in China. samsara points to a few Wu Han would have to grapple with, and then jetmasters brings up the great wall.

I'm keeping my eyes out for Wu Han. She seems hungry.
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Friday, June 16th 2017, 3:37pm

The roster of Chinese U20 NT in 2017 Guangzhou BRIC Games

Bold as the players who participated in 2016 U19 ACH:
S - Cai Ya-qian, Sun Yan
OP - Chen Pei-yan, Guan Rui-ge
OH - Wu Han, Han Wen-ya, Yang Wen-jin [born in 1997]
MB - Xie Xing, Zhang Yu-qian, Yang Han-yu
L - Zang Qian-qian, Fang Jing

Yang Wen-jin replaced Cai Xiao-qing temporarily.

Rumor: Team Brazil and Team Russia are also U20 NTs.

Schedule [UTC+8]:
June 17 10:30 Russia - South Africa 14:30 China - India
June 18 15:30 Brazil - South Africa 19:30 China - Russia
June 19 15:30 Russia - Brazil 19:30 South - India
June 20 15:30 Brazil - India 19:30 China - South Africa
June 21 10:30 Russia - India 14:30 China - Brazil
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S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

My avatar is Jiang Chuan. I hope more persons love him.

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Friday, June 16th 2017, 8:24pm

I think Wang Yunlu is not better than Li Jing. She is tall with a serve but that's about it.

I have watched the 2016.09.11 AVC Club Championship Final (NEC Red Rockets) JPN v (Bayi Shenzhen) CHN game about 20 times and it was pretty much Wang Yunlu who gave the match to the Red Rockets. Thank you Yunlu! So it's going to be a while before I think she is much good. Still very young, though. It's crazy how young some of the Chinese players are. LI Ying-ying is 17?
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Saturday, June 17th 2017, 3:03am

the WGP 2017 Wide Roster of the CHN team,

On that page, and others like it, for each player there is a "Selection" number. What does that mean?

BTW - I'm re-watching some of the Chinese Montreux matches and gaining much appreciation for the setter, Diao, and Gao Yi especially. I've always thought Gong was pretty solid but wish she would up her attitude. I can admire skill but can't root for downbeat personality. Doubly so when it comes to coaches.
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Saturday, June 17th 2017, 4:51am

the WGP 2017 Wide Roster of the CHN team,

On that page, and others like it, for each player there is a "Selection" number. What does that mean?

BTW - I'm re-watching some of the Chinese Montreux matches and gaining much appreciation for the setter, Diao, and Gao Yi especially. I've always thought Gong was pretty solid but wish she would up her attitude. I can admire skill but can't root for downbeat personality. Doubly so when it comes to coaches.
The selection number is incorrect for pretty much every player. It's like apps (appearances) for footballers, amount of games play for national team. I like Diao more than Yao. Gao Yi has really long arms. She just needs to work on timing and technique to block better spikers.

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Saturday, June 17th 2017, 6:45am

the WGP 2017 Wide Roster of the CHN team,

On that page, and others like it, for each player there is a "Selection" number. What does that mean?

BTW - I'm re-watching some of the Chinese Montreux matches and gaining much appreciation for the setter, Diao, and Gao Yi especially. I've always thought Gong was pretty solid but wish she would up her attitude. I can admire skill but can't root for downbeat personality. Doubly so when it comes to coaches.

Gong XY should not be judged from the Montreux VM, the Chinese squad was a limp one, for trying out the young players like Gao Yi, Wang YY while hosting the lesser veteran like Li Jing etc.. Gong along with Liu XT were not sufficient to prop the entire team [in dealing with the formidable opponent like BRA squad]... but it's so true that the main purpose of a tournament like Montreux VM is just worth for such experimentation, no more and no less! I have no wonder that a team like that Chinese composition couldn't match the fierce BRA team there.

Any meaningful judgement must be deferred until at least the WGP 2017, though World Championship is a more accurate barometer. I hope BRA team will even field a more complete, stronger team in the WGP 2017. I'd like to see a post-Olympics encounter of more realistic strength, much closer to the actual power possessed by both teams, but this time they can only be seeing eyes to eyes in the Final Six round. Whereas the stake is more important, the true power is getting more real.

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Sunday, June 18th 2017, 5:48am

I can't get enough of WU Han.

When she serves one into the net she approaches the team huddle with an "I'm still total bad-ass" attitude. When they show her peering through the net, waiting for a serve ... she's taking names. I absolutely love this girl! :obey: :rolll: :dance6:
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Sunday, June 18th 2017, 5:54am

Any meaningful judgement must be deferred until at least the WGP 2017

I agree. I did think a lot of the Montreux matches were fun--still re-watching some of them. And I think Gong performed well, very well. Still surprised she's so young.

DIAO Lin-yu's ankle incident looked a lot worse the second time. And she did it on her own, didn't land on anyone else's foot, as far as I could tell. Sad for her.
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