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Monday, May 29th 2017, 7:56pm

Polańska, Tokarska and Kaliszuk won't play in World Grand Prix.
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Monday, May 29th 2017, 8:17pm

I don't count on anything, anyway I expect we won't qualify to higher division... moreover I worry that we won't reach QF during ECH ;( I hope that they can find more reliable coach, this serie during tie break vs Czech Republic is just unbelievable :cursing: :mad:
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Monday, May 29th 2017, 9:41pm

I don't count on anything, anyway I expect we won't qualify to higher division... moreover I worry that we won't reach QF during ECH ;( I hope that they can find more reliable coach, this serie during tie break vs Czech Republic is just unbelievable :cursing: :mad:

I was broken when we lost to WCH 2014, but not after last weekend lost. This was everything what we could do. And the question is - after loosing in WGP and ECH would we have a new coach?

I'm happy that I won't see Kaliszuk and Polańska, this is time wasting. Hope to see some young potential.

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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 11:59am

Jerzy Matlak (ex-NT coach) claims that league is too big (it should have around 10 more balanced teams) and closing it was a mistake. Moreover he thinks that too many generation changes had impact too. He doesn't want to fire Nawrocki, but there must be a time when coach accounts for team's results. He also mentioned going abroad, players can learn there, but not many of them will leave country.

As far as remeber, Matlak began collapse of our NT :lol: this weird situation during WCH 2010 when Skowrońska and Skorupa were cut from NT at the end, then we had Świderek - I'm still angry that they fired him :mad: and then Makowski and Nawrocki :thumbdown:

source: http://eurosport.onet.pl/siatkowka/repre…ac-kadry/78ww83
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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 2:48pm

He's not entirely wrong, though. Poland is a team without any concept going back at least 5 years. I don't think there's another team that tries out so many different players - it feels like every single local player from Orlen Liga was a part of the NT at some point. :what: That's not the way to go, you need some continuity and long term planning. Serbia went through something similar in 2009-10 when Terzić would bring in new no-hopers all the time and of course we had the worst results then.
Not to mention that Poland seems to eternally be going back and forth between "rejuveneting the team" and bringing back the dinosaurs like Jagielo and Pycia. That just creates more confusion.

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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 3:43pm

He's not entirely wrong, though. Poland is a team without any concept going back at least 5 years. I don't think there's another team that tries out so many different players - it feels like every single local player from Orlen Liga was a part of the NT at some point. :what: That's not the way to go, you need some continuity and long term planning. Serbia went through something similar in 2009-10 when Terzić would bring in new no-hopers all the time and of course we had the worst results then.
Not to mention that Poland seems to eternally be going back and forth between "rejuveneting the team" and bringing back the dinosaurs like Jagielo and Pycia. That just creates more confusion.
Right to the point. Important thing you also covered in your post is selection.

Because each event since 2014 WCH qualification is played with different starting line-up. How is it supposed to work? Of course sometimes one player has improved or is playing worse and second one is injured so the changes are required. It's ok, but not changing 4 players of the 7 every time and for example MBs on daily basis in one tournament! It's sick. That's one thing.

Second is calling players who are not young and talented. Nawrocki just can't see who has potential to be great player and who doesn't. For example we have Lukasik and Smieszek who are young MBs playing good in OrlenLiga, but he calls Alagierska and Sikorska who are sitting on the bench or playing average. He complaints we have no power, but calls Polak or Brzoska and not Rasinska or Baczynska or even Kowalinska. There is no logic.

Now he didn't call Tokarska and nobody knows why. Mucha absence is still a mistery.

It's like a big mess.

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Tuesday, May 30th 2017, 4:32pm

that's reasons why PZPS should fire him after this season :wavy:
Joana, I didn't said that Matlak is entirely wrong ^^ just menntioned when slow way to collapse started ^^ probably throughout these years since 2010, around 70:!: players were in NT, I somewhere put some kind of list :lol:
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Monday, June 5th 2017, 5:12pm

any news on roster for Montreux ?(
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Monday, June 26th 2017, 12:02pm

Natalia Mędrzyk is injured. She won't play at WGP.

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 12:35pm

According to doctors, she won't play ECH also because it means she is few months out. So now the situation is even worse and we will play with Grajber and Smarzek as OHs probably, but still we advanced to WGP I so it's not that bad, some players like Tomsia will be back as well.

Maybe at least for ECH Mucha can be back...

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 5:03pm

Natalia Mędrzyk is injured. She won't play at WGP.

What a pity :white: she was very important player at this moment for our NT. So for 1st week of wgp we have only 3 OH? ( Smarzek, Grajber and Polak)

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 5:07pm

Natalia Mędrzyk is injured. She won't play at WGP.

What a pity :white: she was very important player at this moment for our NT. So for 1st week of wgp we have only 3 OH? ( Smarzek, Grajber and Polak)
maybe they'll add Twardowska or Różański :wavy: Smarzek can be used as OP like in Montreux :whistle:
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Monday, June 26th 2017, 5:13pm

Brzoska will be 4th OH.
If I remember correctly, Twardowska is injured.

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 7:18pm

Brzoska will be 4th OH.
If I remember correctly, Twardowska is injured.

Twardowska recovered after ankle injury at the beginning of June and joined the camp in Szczyrk, where some girls were preparing for WGP. I don't know what was the point of that if as we can see none of them made a cut to 14 players roster. I don't know what Nawrocki want to achieve with taking for example Brzóska, which is not and won't be NT material.

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 8:02pm

Brzoska will be 4th OH.
If I remember correctly, Twardowska is injured.

Twardowska recovered after ankle injury at the beginning of June and joined the camp in Szczyrk, where some girls were preparing for WGP. I don't know what was the point of that if as we can see none of them made a cut to 14 players roster. I don't know what Nawrocki want to achieve with taking for example Brzóska, which is not and won't be NT material.
I agree, anoyone knows what's with Grejman? She's recovered after injury, she should work her ass off to be back in a shape , but I guess, she prefers to spend summer vacation with Kurek. She could make it on ECH :down:

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Monday, June 26th 2017, 10:54pm

Brzoska will be 4th OH.
If I remember correctly, Twardowska is injured.

Twardowska recovered after ankle injury at the beginning of June and joined the camp in Szczyrk, where some girls were preparing for WGP. I don't know what was the point of that if as we can see none of them made a cut to 14 players roster. I don't know what Nawrocki want to achieve with taking for example Brzóska, which is not and won't be NT material.
I agree, anoyone knows what's with Grejman? She's recovered after injury, she should work her ass off to be back in a shape , but I guess, she prefers to spend summer vacation with Kurek. She could make it on ECH :down:

I dont want to be rude, but in my opinion she doesnt interesting as much to play in NT, but maybe Im wrong...

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Tuesday, June 27th 2017, 9:33am

Nothing to worry about. Our team will play average as always, we will have to see these embarrassing coach and some of the players again. Next year will will play in 1st division, so only thing to worry about is coach change. Should be done asap!

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Tuesday, June 27th 2017, 9:42am

Nothing to worry about. Our team will play average as always, we will have to see these embarrassing coach and some of the players again. Next year will will play in 1st division, so only thing to worry about is coach change. Should be done asap!
agree, nothing to add more :aww:
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Tuesday, June 27th 2017, 9:56am

Nothing to worry about. Our team will play average as always, we will have to see these embarrassing coach and some of the players again. Next year will will play in 1st division, so only thing to worry about is coach change. Should be done asap!

Really in 1st decision?! Is something change for next year in wgp?

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Tuesday, June 27th 2017, 10:06am

Nothing to worry about. Our team will play average as always, we will have to see these embarrassing coach and some of the players again. Next year will will play in 1st division, so only thing to worry about is coach change. Should be done asap!

Really in 1st decision?! Is something change for next year in wgp?
yes, it's official :wavy:
it was mentioned HERE
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