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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 9:57pm

Why would you sing Natalia and let Larson go ? lol

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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 9:59pm

New rumors from Turkey:

Eczaci is close to sign Natalia.

Galatasaray will hold onto Koshelava.

Vakifbank will decide to sign Tandara or to keep Lonneke at the end of the season.

KYK is ready to accept Fener's 1.3 million euros contract that will be more than 1.5 million with bonuses (CL, League and KupaVolley trophies). The highest offer she has ever got from them in years thanks to the new sponsor.


if Eczacı is close to signing Natalia..may this mean they will part the ways with Larson ?? a healthy Natalia would be good for Vitra


Natalia is injured which makes her options limited. I don't think Larson is leaving. EcV would be mad to let her go.

I have a feeling this is a good catch for EcV. They have a great player that could replace either Larson or Boskovic when they are playing negatively and for the champions league as well if she recovers. In my opinion, this could smell trouble for Vakifbank and Fenerbahce.
Eczaci also has the weakest mbs in top 4 tho. They can't bring Bahar back since she will either stay in Fener or go to Vakif. They need a foreign MB badly and they won't let Maja go either. In my opinion they should've let Hande grow as a starter this season.

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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:01pm

New rumors from Turkey:

Eczaci is close to sign Natalia.

Galatasaray will hold onto Koshelava.

Vakifbank will decide to sign Tandara or to keep Lonneke at the end of the season.

KYK is ready to accept Fener's 1.3 million euros contract that will be more than 1.5 million with bonuses (CL, League and KupaVolley trophies). The highest offer she has ever got from them in years thanks to the new sponsor.


if Eczacı is close to signing Natalia..may this mean they will part the ways with Larson ?? a healthy Natalia would be good for Vitra


Natalia is injured which makes her options limited. I don't think Larson is leaving. EcV would be mad to let her go.

I have a feeling this is a good catch for EcV. They have a great player that could replace either Larson or Boskovic when they are playing negatively and for the champions league as well if she recovers. In my opinion, this could smell trouble for Vakifbank and Fenerbahce.


has Natalia's injury got chronic?
Brazilian doctors say she will be back in 2 months. She is expected to actually play only at the WCH.
Yes, I think it's chronic but no one knows for sure.

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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:02pm

oh pls!..Hande should go to another club and play anymore!
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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:09pm

oh pls!..Hande should go to another club and play anymore!
What's what I meant by letting her grow as a starter. I just think that loaning her to Bursa or Nilufer this season would be a better choice for both Hande and the club. She would be in better condition for the 18-19 season.

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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:10pm

oh pls!..Hande should go to another club and play anymore!
What's what I meant by letting her grow as a starter. I just think that loaning her to Bursa or Nilufer this season would be a better choice for both Hande and the club. She would be in better condition for the 18-19 season.

exactly!
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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:14pm

She has an amazing reach and approach much better then Tandara imo while she is also very tall, she is very quick and athletic as well. I agree that she is overall a better player and the second best Opposite in the world right now, only Boskovic is better.
Uhhmm except not really. If we were to rank the worlds top opposites, I say she is a third or a tie with Tandara. Sloetjes may have a "better" approach (but that is subjective even) but Goncharova is a better blocker, utilizes tips and not all power spikes, can hit down the line, and can even help with the reception. Obviously only Boskovic is better :wavy:

But anyway I agree with your point Tandara will be a much better fit in GS with Neslihan leaving. If Zhu renews her contract, I think it's wise if they keep Sloetsjes for another year.

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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 10:15pm

New rumors from Turkey:

Eczaci is close to sign Natalia.

Galatasaray will hold onto Koshelava.

Vakifbank will decide to sign Tandara or to keep Lonneke at the end of the season.

KYK is ready to accept Fener's 1.3 million euros contract that will be more than 1.5 million with bonuses (CL, League and KupaVolley trophies). The highest offer she has ever got from them in years thanks to the new sponsor.


if Eczacı is close to signing Natalia..may this mean they will part the ways with Larson ?? a healthy Natalia would be good for Vitra


Natalia is injured which makes her options limited. I don't think Larson is leaving. EcV would be mad to let her go.

I have a feeling this is a good catch for EcV. They have a great player that could replace either Larson or Boskovic when they are playing negatively and for the champions league as well if she recovers. In my opinion, this could smell trouble for Vakifbank and Fenerbahce.


has Natalia's injury got chronic?
Brazilian doctors say she will be back in 2 months. She is expected to actually play only at the WCH.
Yes, I think it's chronic but no one knows for sure.

i hope she can overcome her injury and reach her top shape again
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Wednesday, April 18th 2018, 11:48pm

I'm sorry Goncharova is one of the most overrated players and this all bcs she is considered pretty , unless its a sky high perfectly set ball she is pretty ineffective. Goncharova is between 4th and 6th imho esp. now. She'd wish she could spike a ball as well out of system as Sloëtjes (or Tandara). And again I'm not saying she is bad however she has a system and is def. not a player thats comfortable going outside that which is fine but is not enough to make her 2nd best in the world.

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 12:16am

I'm sorry Goncharova is one of the most overrated players and this all bcs she is considered pretty , unless its a sky high perfectly set ball she is pretty ineffective. Goncharova is between 4th and 6th imho esp. now. She'd wish she could spike a ball as well out of system as Sloëtjes (or Tandara). And again I'm not saying she is bad however she has a system and is def. not a player thats comfortable going outside that which is fine but is not enough to make her 2nd best in the world.

I agree. She never proved anything. She can barely win something in her weak and domestic league...
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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 1:04am

I'm sorry Goncharova is one of the most overrated players and this all bcs she is considered pretty , unless its a sky high perfectly set ball she is pretty ineffective. Goncharova is between 4th and 6th imho esp. now. She'd wish she could spike a ball as well out of system as Sloëtjes (or Tandara). And again I'm not saying she is bad however she has a system and is def. not a player thats comfortable going outside that which is fine but is not enough to make her 2nd best in the world.


A sky high ball is an out of system set. Do you really think the blockers wouldn't know when the ball is going to Goncharova or not?

This is a silly discussion over Goncharova when she is the only viable attacking option for Dinamo Moscow or even Russia when Kosheleva was injured and had problems with Meldonium in her body from 2016.

Sloetjes has Zhu Ting in Vakifbank. You would think she played better with that massive crosshair on Zhu Ting's back.
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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 1:19am

I don't understand why ppl in this forum dislike Sloëtjes so much. Imo Vakif should sign her again as sending her off would be one of the biggest presents they could give to an opposite team. Sloëtjes plays great when it matters most, f.e. she had some amazing spikes yesterday vs EczV. She has an amazing reach and approach much better then Tandara imo while she is also very tall, she is very quick and athletic as well. I agree that she is overall a better player and the second best Opposite in the world right now, only Boskovic is better.
Don't get me wrong Tandara is a great player and option for all the other teams, but I don's see her as an upgrade for VB necessarily. Also she is untested in the long/exhausting European leagues/cups and a few years older then Sloëtjes which doesn't make her te best long time option either.

Sloëtjes is a really good player, it is just not easy to always shine in a team with Zhu Ting. I think GS could do well with Tandara and they need her after Neslihan much more then VB.
I’m sorry, but saying Sloetjes plays great when it matters the most is one of the biggest jokes I’ve ever seen. For me, she is one of the biggest chokers. Just to say a few important matches she wasn’t good: Champions League final against Pomi, 2015 European Championship Final against Russia, 2016 Olympic Qualification Final against Russia, Grand Prix 2016 final phase against Brazil, Turkish Cup 2018 semifinal against Fenerbahce, and many more decisive moments where she choked. For me, this comparison between her and Tandara is just insane. Nowadays, for me, she is not in top 5 of best opposites in the world (behind Boskovic, Goncharova, Tandara, Egonu, Haak, and maybe even Neslihan at 34).

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 2:46am

I'm sorry Goncharova is one of the most overrated players and this all bcs she is considered pretty , unless its a sky high perfectly set ball she is pretty ineffective. Goncharova is between 4th and 6th imho esp. now. She'd wish she could spike a ball as well out of system as Sloëtjes (or Tandara). And again I'm not saying she is bad however she has a system and is def. not a player thats comfortable going outside that which is fine but is not enough to make her 2nd best in the world.
It's funny I never mentioned anything about her beauty until you pointed it out. And both you and I know she's kind of underrated around here in these forums. She has been one of the top opposites in the world since 2015 whether you like it or not this idea is shared by Guidetti, Terzic etc so it's not like she's a pushover.

Sorry to derail this thread but saying Sloetjes is objectively better than Tandara is simply not true especially if we look at the performance this season (or even last season). Lonneke is a good player, but you make her appear better than what she actually is ,even if currently there are 2-3 better opposites than her :whistle:

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 5:19am

Do not argue pals, just let zhuting and boscovic in the same team. all problems are solved!!! :win:

From this year, zhuting and boscovic's time has officially arrived! With the back of the huge budget of vakifbank and ecz vitra. I do not see any other clubs have chances!! :lol:


I believe ecz vitra will have the strongest roster on paper again next season. I hope next year boscovic can get champion league gold medal! After this year, Zhuting(MVP collector) will already get too many MVPS. It is boscovic turn! :cheesy:

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 9:38am

I don't understand why ppl in this forum dislike Sloëtjes so much. Imo Vakif should sign her again as sending her off would be one of the biggest presents they could give to an opposite team. Sloëtjes plays great when it matters most, f.e. she had some amazing spikes yesterday vs EczV. She has an amazing reach and approach much better then Tandara imo while she is also very tall, she is very quick and athletic as well. I agree that she is overall a better player and the second best Opposite in the world right now, only Boskovic is better.
Don't get me wrong Tandara is a great player and option for all the other teams, but I don's see her as an upgrade for VB necessarily. Also she is untested in the long/exhausting European leagues/cups and a few years older then Sloëtjes which doesn't make her te best long time option either.

Sloëtjes is a really good player, it is just not easy to always shine in a team with Zhu Ting. I think GS could do well with Tandara and they need her after Neslihan much more then VB.
I’m sorry, but saying Sloetjes plays great when it matters the most is one of the biggest jokes I’ve ever seen. For me, she is one of the biggest chokers. Just to say a few important matches she wasn’t good: Champions League final against Pomi, 2015 European Championship Final against Russia, 2016 Olympic Qualification Final against Russia, Grand Prix 2016 final phase against Brazil, Turkish Cup 2018 semifinal against Fenerbahce, and many more decisive moments where she choked. For me, this comparison between her and Tandara is just insane. Nowadays, for me, she is not in top 5 of best opposites in the world (behind Boskovic, Goncharova, Tandara, Egonu, Haak, and maybe even Neslihan at 34).
It's funny how some people will overreact to prove their point.
Yess it goes without saying that Tandara has overall performed better than Sloetjes.
This discussion is so unnecessary.

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 10:26am

Both Lonneke and Tandara are high level players...both are good opposites..we dont have to underrate someone else just to praise the one we like
i think "normal" or "good" " or "not World-class enough" players are not appreciated enough in this forum..all the credits goest to "World-class" players
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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 10:51am

I'm sorry Goncharova is one of the most overrated players and this all bcs she is considered pretty , unless its a sky high perfectly set ball she is pretty ineffective. Goncharova is between 4th and 6th imho esp. now. She'd wish she could spike a ball as well out of system as Sloëtjes (or Tandara). And again I'm not saying she is bad however she has a system and is def. not a player thats comfortable going outside that which is fine but is not enough to make her 2nd best in the world.

I agree. She never proved anything. She can barely win something in her weak and domestic league...

Why are you being so provocative all the time? :what: How come do you call Russian league weak while it is still one of the best leagues in Europe :white:

About the Goncharova discussion, she is one of the top class Opp and I don't think she is underrated or overrated. She gets the credit she deserves and not wanting to play abroad is a personal choice that has nothing to criticize. However, I do think that Sloetjes is known to be the greatest choker Opps of ]history (maybe after Rhykliuk) she almost never performs well when it really matters

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 10:55am

According to WoV, Tandara will continue her career in China:

http://www.worldofvolley.com/News/Latest…s-to-china.html

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Thursday, April 19th 2018, 10:57am

wouldnt a probable departure of Tandara be a big blow for Osasco ? Who to replace her with ?
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