Volleyball Nutrition and Heavyweight Training

  • Yes, of course, no one is ever capable of offending Mr. Lachezar The All-Knowing. And Chuck Norris, of course. They are the two almighty!

    So you confess that you DO want to offend me? If you are offended by the fact that I have read and understood much more information than 99% of the people will learn in their entire life, stay offended, please :D


    P.S. As a moderator you should know better than giving personal information about users in a forum. So, don't use my name.

  • Vitamin D vital for muscle strength and jumping abilities /unsurpsisingly, strength is correlated with jumping height and speed/


    http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/94/2/559.abstract


    I put it here, because there is over 70% chance that you are either defficient or below optimal value of vitamin D

  • So you confess that you DO want to offend me? If you are offended by the fact that I have read and understood much more information than 99% of the people will learn in their entire life, stay offended, please :D


    P.S. As a moderator you should know better than giving personal information about users in a forum. So, don't use my name.

    No, I am not offended at all. I couldn't care less what you do or pretend to do.


    Yes, of course, you are right about the moderator part, but apart from a moderator I am also a user in the forum, so I have my share to point something out from time to time. Besides, you posted your name in your first post in inside-volley, or implied to it, I can't really remember. The purpose I did so was to response in the same way you did to my post. I think it makes sense to stand behind your own name when you address (or try to mock as you did) other people personally as well, but this is your own decision, I will leave that choice to you, it is your right.


    End of off-topic in the off-topic thread. Please, continue the discussion!

  • If you are offended by the fact that I have read and understood much more information than 99% of the people will learn in their entire life, stay offended, please :D


    down to Earth man :aww: Most of your posts r annoying but still u r acting as the smartest human on Earth. In fact u r very frustrated guy, probably w/o any social contact. Now u r giving lessons to all of us, including me, w/o any contact with professional volleyball and habits.

  • Please anybody here, can you squat double your weight? If you can't your opinion = 0. Mr Yavor, how are your lifts? :D


    It is interesting how people who know NOTHING on certain topic and have JACK SHIT OF EXPERIENCE on it get judgemental on other people who walk the walk and even ignore them. It is ok to argue on volleyball, since my knowledge is outside of the sport, but to argue without arguments ON MY GROUND You are being ridiculous here :aww:

    I can squat 1.8 my bodyweight. It is really annoying to say things as if you're the Messiah who knows everything about everything and we're bunch of negligent fucks. This makes you ridiculous! You have an opinion about yourself that is higher than it should be.

  • I didn't mean to start a war here! I think all points were clarified, let's keep on with the discussion if there is something to be said/added. Unless this is the case, I don't want to read anything about anyone anymore, maybe I should delete all the recent posts starting with my remarks as a beginning.. As I said, to avoid future situations like this, just ignore things you don't like, as simple as that! Arguments can be introduced only if both (most) sides are willing to learn/adopt/present something meaningful. Otherwise moderators need to intervene..

  • I can squat 1.8 my bodyweight. It is really annoying to say things as if you're the Messiah who knows everything about everything and we're bunch of negligent fucks. This makes you ridiculous! You have an opinion about yourself that is higher than it should be.


    I am sorry if it looks like that from distance. That's not what I mean. I usualy write neutral before someone starts to ignore my arguments or diverge the subject. When I write something, I usually read 1000 pages on the subject and test it on my self ./yes, milk gives great gains in practice/ On weight lifting I have enough understanding and experience to know when somebody does not have (there are milion people who know better than me on this topic, but no one is here, no specialist on that). It is impossible to lower jump by increasing squat strength, this will rewrite human history and the laws of logic. In volleyball for example is different - there is ground to mock me there, but not here, because If I send Lon Kilgore "squat lowers your jump and slows you down" or "don't train heavy, Grozer, we don't want bodybuilders", he will laugh to death.

  • http://smu.edu/education/welln…basis-J-Exp-Biol-2005.pdf


    In the absence of a functional option, human runners have simply adjusted structurally: musculoskeletal tissue areas are closely matched to the support forces required. Thus, massiveness does
    not necessarily pose the performance disadvantages previously noted for large terrestrial vertebrates. Among runners of similar stature and body composition, being relatively more massive is not only beneficial for shorter distance specialists, but also appears to be biologically necessary for attaining faster speeds.


    http://www.jssm.org/vol6/n1/19/v6n1-19pdf.pdf


    Results indicated that vertical jump and power performance were significantly improved by prior maximal squat performance. Improvements in vertical jump and power performance appear to occur within 5-min of
    maximal squat testing. Whether this postactivation muscle potentiation occurs immediately after 1-RM squat testing, or how long it is sustained following maximal squat testing is not clear from this examination. Previous work by
    Chiu and colleagues (2003) have suggested that recreationally trained individuals or athletes may exhibit fatigue within the first 5-min following an acute heavy resistance exercise stimulus, but the potentiation effect may be sustained for more than 18-minutes following the exercise stimulus.


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22344055


    Quarter squat training elicited significant (p≤0.05) transfer losses into the isometric maximal and explosive strength behavior. Our findings therefor contest the concept of superior angle specific transfer effects. Deep front and back squats guarantee performance-enhancing transfer effects of dynamic maximal strength to dynamic speed-strength capacity of hip and knee extensors compared to quarter squats.


    https://www.mcgill.ca/files/po…lmes_cancerepi02vol11.pdf


    We examined many dietary factors and found associations with several. However, the clearest findings in this study of healthy women were a positive association between intake of total energy and milk and circulating IGF-I levels. The milk association is supported by several pieces of evidence. This includes positive associations between IGF-I and nutrients from food sources but not supplements where the most frequent food source of those nutrients is milk. The milk association is consistent with similar findings in a cross-sectional study of men (42) and a randomized trial of increasing milk intake (41).


  • IGF-1 increase is linked to cancer risk increase, milk causes IGF-1 increase, but this does not mean, that milk raises the cancer risk. The argument /the fight/ is not conclusive there. Milk also have anti-cancer properties with calcium and vitamin D uptake, also IGF-1 is good for all type of cells

  • Well, the statistics show that in countries with higher dairy intake cancer risks are much higher. I don't care if it is because IGF-1 or whatever else, just this is the situation. Also a lot of studies show that calcium from milk is not absorbed as we believe.

  • Well, the statistics show that in countries with higher dairy intake cancer risks are much higher. I don't care if it is because IGF-1 or whatever else, just this is the situation. Also a lot of studies show that calcium from milk is not absorbed as we believe.

    Correlation does not imply causality. Countries with higher dairy intake are associated and grouped also by geography / Western Europe, North America/, history, culture, genetics, wealth and you can find the same correlation between all this markers and cancer risk but does this prove they increase it?

  • Read this diary of one Bulgarian boy. who became national powerlifting athlete with >250 kg back squat after training hard for several years with a lot of milk.


    http://www.bb-team.org/forums/viewthread/29849


  • Doesn't mean that milk is good for you. You can have great results in all sports with steroids, not good for your health though.

    I don't have reports for damage from sustained milk consumption from men without allergies. Surely no one will consume 5 litres a day after the bulking period and this quantity is for skinny boys

  • I don't have reports for damage from sustained milk consumption from men without allergies. Surely no one will consume 5 litres a day after the bulking period and this quantity is for skinny boys


    You are hopeless. Believe what you want, drink what you want. There is a lot of data, your choice what to believe. You can become Penchev's personal trainer even if you want, squat him to death.


  • You are hopeless. Believe what you want, drink what you want. There is a lot of data, your choice what to believe. You can become Penchev's personal trainer even if you want, squat him to death.


    You can't resist showing how bad manners you have, can you? I happen to be a scienticet, unlike you so let me tell you what "linking" does mean - it means that there is probability for causal effect. Milk consumption linked to prostate cancer suggests further investigation to derive a model how does the milk affects the organism to produce such effect. Nothing more. If further research don't find direct cause-effect relationship, linking means nothing. If you want to be cautious, don't drink milk, just don't say it is bad until proven.

  • You can't resist showing how bad manners you have, can you? I happen to be a scienticet, unlike you so let me tell you what "linking" does mean - it means that there is probability for causal effect. Milk consumption linked to prostate cancer suggests further investigation to derive a model how does the milk affects the organism to produce such effect. Nothing more. If further research don't find direct cause-effect relationship, linking means nothing. If you want to be cautious, don't drink milk, just don't say it is bad until proven.


    Sometimes I loose it, have to admit it, but I don't feel sorry. And how can you be sure that I'm not a scientist, I don't say that I am, but there is no way you could know. So, because you are a scientist we should take your word for granted? I wouldn't trust a PhD in Metallurgy about my health problems for instance. I don't even know why I'm writing, drink all the milk in the world you want :). Cheers.


  • Sometimes I loose it, have to admit it, but I don't feel sorry. And how can you be sure that I'm not a scientist, I don't say that I am, but there is no way you could know. So, because you are a scientist we should take your word for granted? I wouldn't trust a PhD in Metallurgy about my health problems for instance. I don't even know why I'm writing, drink all the milk in the world you want :). Cheers.


    You are begging the point, that's why I noticed you are not scientist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
    Once you start thinking scientifically you should apply the same standards to every field of discussion. Always rational, always careful with statements

  • Let me write my opinion based on personal experience and some read materials.


    I consume 5 litres of yoghurt per week and more than 2 kg of cheese. In summer I eat up to 2.5 litres of yoghurt per day! And I never had trouble with some allergic reactions or diseases connected with the yoghurt or the cheese. Moreover, I haven't been really sick from childhood - only colds and flues, nothing more. Where's the hint? I eat pure, domestic yoghurt, from cows and not bought from stores or supermarkets. I have that privilege that few people from the big cities have. The difference is HUGE, I'm telling you. The yoghurt from the stores is nothing but some cream with unknown compounds. And I think all the problems in most of the researches which show facts against dairy are connected with those compounds. The taste is absolutely different, the content is different - even in those which are with a government standart. They also are not 100% pure milk! The situation with cheese is similar.


    I don't drink a lot of milk, I've also heard that there are negative sides of milk. But we can go as far as "Milk is as good as it is bad for you" and not "Milk is poison - you'll die if you drink it". And 4-5 litres of milk a day is still sonething I won't accept. I'm a supporter of the idea that a good diet is a diet which contains all of the three macronutrients + all of the minerals and vitamins in moderate doses.


    More about milk - Japanese people - the nation with the highest age of death(they live longest, in other words) and are known as a nation that are very aware of a healthy living and food have a lot of proteins in their diet. They purchase a lot of yoghurt from Bulgaria. Also our grandmothers and grandfathers and even before that have eaten milk their entire life and yet they didn't have cancer? So maybe you should search the cancer reasons not in the milk but in the way milk is produced?


    Here's a little material from a certified nutritionist:

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    The fat in organically raised, free-range animals: This is one area where most people have been misinformed by the mass media. Animal fat is inherently good for us, that is, if it came from a healthy animal. Human beings have thrived on animal fats for thousands of years. The problem lies in the fact that most mass produced animal products today do NOT come from healthy animals. They come from animals given loads of antibiotics and fattened up with hormones and fed un-natural feed. The solution is to choose organically raised, free-range meats, eggs, and dairy. At this time, the price is still a little higher, but it is worth it, and as demand grows, the prices will come down.