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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 9:02pm

I love Zhu...but to be very honest I`m tired of reading her name already.... :lol:

I don`t know and I could be wrong, but the whole Zhu hate started with Shame...as he would go in every thread, during every game...every time, and say something bad about her, like someone would say Zhu is great and he always felt in the need to prove them wrong....and after a while everyone started to notice that and it was getting out of control...

He has done the same thing with Atanasejvic... Whenever he has a good game he does not post anything...but as soon as he has a bad game or simply a bad few points sequence he comes here and starts bashing here...calling him chocker ... and all that... He evens does this in other forums such as world of volleyball...and he used to do the same thing with Zhu...as soon she has a bad pass...or makes a err he comes here and starts bashing her...

And again...at first nobody cared...but after a while it got annoying and it got out of control.....and Zhu fans started to fight back at him.... And I did the same thing with Atanasejevic by trying to defend him.....( that`s why I had some issues with Shame).


It is OK not to like a player....everyone here has some players that we don`t like... and Shame has the right to dislike Zhu and Ata...but simply everyone post of him would be to bash these 2......and u guys would jump in and try to defend Shame by saying he has the right to say whatever about her.. ( without knowing what was really going on). And yes everyone has the right to dislike a player..but when every post becomes about hating on a "X" player people will take notice.....Just like everyone knows how much Crovolley loves Fabris and every post he has is about her... well after a while u guys started to notice that and by now it is even annoying right?? So yeah ....same thing Shame did with Zhu and Ata....

..so it always come off as you guys were hating on Zhu as well just like him...and that`s how this whole " ZHU hate" started.....

I`m not gonna lie... it was kinda fun to argue with you guys about Zhu and all the hate.... but I`m over it... it is even boring now...

Let`s pick someone else to hate please??? .... :lol: ( I`m kidding )....But I 100% done with this Zhu topic....

and Shame..I don`t have a problem with u anymore...I`m just bringing your name up to explain what happened. :thumbsup:




I didn't mean to offend anyone
Most likely, when the VNL is underway, and clubs have their rosters in order and rumor world dies down, a lot of this may go away. But I don't think Zhu is going away. I'm just trying to help, too.

Yeah, every year is the same to some extent. Once the transfers and rumours die out, we tend to focus on the topics for tournaments.
By the way, I'm not sure why this whole Zhu thing began just now. She's been a huge presence in volleyball for years now and even when China won gold in Rio discussions weren't like this. I tend to skip most of these discussions because it always ends up on being the same thing over and over again, but I genuinely don't think anyone here "hates" (which in itself is already quite a strong word) Zhu. She might not be the favorite for some, which is completely understandable, but her talent and skills are undeniable to (I assume at least) everyone here.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "pope" (May 12th 2018, 9:11pm)


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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 9:11pm

Should I take this as a provocation? Unbelievable! :wall:
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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 9:12pm

Shame..I don`t have a problem with u anymore...I`m just bringing your name up to explain what happened. :thumbsup: Please don`t take it the wrong way.
Should I take this as a provocation? Unbelievable! :wall:

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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 9:13pm

Should I take this as a provocation? Unbelievable! :wall:
I wish we could simply give it all a rest, but...on this subject pope is not completely wrong I think :S
Though I definitely don't agree that "you started it all" :!:

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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 9:17pm

We were finally having a calmer day... :aww:
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Saturday, May 12th 2018, 11:33pm

I moved the Eurovision posts into the Eurovision topic in off-topic section, even though it's for 2017 I find it more fitting there than here which is for volleyball-related discussions.

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Monday, May 14th 2018, 11:37pm

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I voted for Giba and Estes.

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Monday, May 14th 2018, 11:48pm

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I voted for Giba and Estes.
Giba and Jelic.

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Tuesday, May 15th 2018, 1:14am

No Brazilian female :gone:

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Tuesday, May 15th 2018, 1:47am

e.g. why Mirka Francia (i dont mean she cant be amongst them) ? why not Mireya Luis Who isnt the player of my times though or any other Cuban ?
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Tuesday, May 15th 2018, 1:51am

Mireya Luis is already in the hall of fame.

http://www.volleyhall.org/list-of-hall-of-famers.html
e.g. why Mirka Francia (i dont mean she cant be amongst them) ? why not Mireya Luis Who isnt the player of my times though or any other Cuban ?

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 11:57pm

Mireya Luis is already in the hall of fame.

http://www.volleyhall.org/list-of-hall-of-famers.html
e.g. why Mirka Francia (i dont mean she cant be amongst them) ? why not Mireya Luis Who isnt the player of my times though or any other Cuban ?

ok :gone:
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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:05am

this will be my last post on this matter.
put Vakıfbank in Brazil league..does the 4th or 5th team have any chance to beat them and get the trophy?
put Vakıfbank in Italy..could the 3rd or 4th team beat them ?
thats why Bursa or Beşiktaş cant beat them and wont bcz Vakıf is too strong for these teams to beat..
this could make it boring..i may be agree with you..but 2 +1 teams in the league can challenge them at least..that is not bad!


This, honestly at this point I find people disrespectful towards Turkish mid level teams acting as if they're nothing. Not to say, there were even upsets this season as Halkbank beat FB and GS Seramiksan beat FB Bursa had beaten VakifBank as well. I also would love to see Busto, Monza or lets say Minas beat VakifBank. :whistle: Turkish mid teams level was not even low last season at all!

I do agree that Turkish big players should play in mid teams and I can see it happening for next season.

this will be my last post on this matter.
put Vakıfbank in Brazil league..does the 4th or 5th team have any chance to beat them and get the trophy?
put Vakıfbank in Italy..could the 3rd or 4th team beat them ?
thats why Bursa or Beşiktaş cant beat them and wont bcz Vakıf is too strong for these teams to beat..
this could make it boring..i may be agree with you..but 2 +1 teams in the league can challenge them at least..that is not bad!


This, honestly at this point I find people disrespectful towards Turkish mid level teams acting as if they're nothing. Not to say, there were even upsets this season as Halkbank beat FB and GS Seramiksan beat FB Bursa had beaten VakifBank as well. I also would love to see Busto, Monza or lets say Minas beat VakifBank. :whistle: Turkish mid teams level was not even low last season at all!

I do agree that Turkish big players should play in mid teams and I can see it happening for next season.

you guys are really weird. I mean Turkish mid level clubs are not bad too but Vakifbank and Eczacibashi and their strong players made less interesting Turkish league. They didn't give a chance Bursa and other mid level clubs to be champion of Turkish league. If you still don't understand my opinion. It's better to stop, I'm not gonna say it again


I do understand your point better now. It is just a general point of mine. There are also people who have said in Turkey there are only 3-4 good teams and the rest are bad which is very untrue and I thought you were also one of them but now I actually see your point and have to say I agree.

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:10am

my point was every league has certain teams to compete for the local championship although we can watch some "interesting" matches in regular seasons..wanting more interesting matches to be played is nothing wrong
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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:18am

my point was every league has certain teams to compete for the local championship although we can watch some "interesting" matches in regular seasons..wanting more interesting matches to be played is nothing wrong


True I mean didn't Italy have the same final now for 2 consecutive years? While Turkey had 2 different teams... I would agree more maybe if Scandicci and Monza could have done what GS did to VakifBank :whistle:

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:19am

Vakif and Eczaci and Fener made people think about it. They mostly beat mid level clubs without more effort. But it doesn't show they are weak. Turkish girls are strong players and they like fighting as hero on court but Vakif, Fener and Eczaci don't let them shining as real hero :whistle: Eda was good at 18 y.o I remember she played well in Besiktas too. It would be great most clubs levels approximately were the same for making championships more interesting. I am really happy you finally understand me. I don't say any disrespectful towards any clubs, anyway. ;)

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:22am

You guys really think wrong about Italian league. Strong Italian players like Ortolani, Lo Bianco, Guiggi played in mid level clubs too. Next year I think Italian league can get back their old interest :whistle:

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:32am

Monza won game against Novara 3-2 and next year they signed with players like Adams, Begic, Buijs, Ortolani, Hancock and they can be more dangerous next year. Even Pomi was very weak this year and they also beat Novara too. Even Bergamo was 10th place and they beat Novara too

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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:41am

btw..you remember Beşiktaş with Eda. :thumbsup: . @Lloyd
i cant remember Beşiktaş had won the title in 2005..seems you remember...bravo!
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Saturday, May 19th 2018, 12:52am

Besiktas played in CL they could be champion or 2rd place (our channel told Besiktas was champion maybe it was their mistakes lol) and don't take my words personally please. I only compare and tell my opinions. I even remember there were clubs in Turkish league called Emlak Toki if I am not wrong Inessa (russian, mb) played there too ;) and Emlak was Turkish champion too once

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