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arman

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Thursday, July 7th 2016, 6:46pm

I really don't know what to say anymore about this Iran team, however day after day it's becoming more and more obvious that the problem wasn't Kovac. This team has regressed in all fundamentals, their federation should address this issue rather than changing coaches over and over.


As I know (insider) players weren't satisfied with Kovač and his stuff :whistle: and rebellion was led by Marouf :whistle:

But it's hard to replace Julio Velasco. Players connected with him as he built them as a team, had authority because his achievements and Kovač came without any big result. I have really high opinion on Velasco, IMO he was Iranian the best player and what's the most important he knew how to manage Marouf and other stars. Lozano is on the same path or at least looks like that. I'm sure they'll look better and better, ticket to Rio is huge boost and Lozano proved he can manage this team.

Iran's biggest problem, in my opinion ofc, are OH's. Mirzajanpour isn't developing for 2 years (that's club fault not NT coaches), Ebadipour is oscilating a lot, Zarini should retire, Ghaemi is typicall defensive OH (except on serve). Manavinejand is a revelation as his offensive skills are great, as well as block but he might miss international experience.

On other side I'm not watching their quality through WL results for several reasons and can't make firm conclusions. WOQT was extremly exhausting tournament, both physically and mentally, and it's logical they didn't care much about WL. Mahmoudi was "squeezed" like a lemon and obviously tired. Same goes for Marouf and Ebadipour. Second reason, Ghaemi & Ghafour didn't play at all due injuries. Third reason is time. Lozano didn't have too much time to get players better, preparations for WOQT were improvised and Lozano used WL matches to check different tactics and how to play in various ways.

Matches in Rio will show their abilities and quality :whistle:

Thank you for this great analysis, as you mentioned Mahmoudi was very tired and had some injuries, like others. IMO this team is much better than Kovac's era, but some of the problems can't be solved easily because players don't experience a real professional life in their clubs.
Iranian League is actually a charity institute for the players and managers to earn a lot for just in 20 or 30 matches. and not a single player is introduced to NT by clubs, they dont have any effective talent finding/ educating programs except 2 or 3. All the players are found by federation itself from all around the country for under age NTs and then clubs hire them.

But what I think differently from Kazisky is that OG is not at all a good tournament to asses teams' real power. because of its format. WCH is a better tournament that we can say teams that are really more powerful can get to the semis. but at OG the only and the most important match is quarter final that sends you to the hell or heaven. Iran must play against one of the USA, BRA, ITA or FRA that normally they can beat Iran even if Iran plays good. but in that single match many things can happen

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Thursday, July 7th 2016, 11:42pm

Yes, on OG just one match could send you to "heaven or hell" but concentration of quality is much higher or better to say there isn't much space for mistakes :) I mean in general not only for Rio.

If you compare Iran under Kovač and Lozano there is really big difference. I'm sure Lozano will do his job...

Iran clubs don't have any youth program or teams? How is that possible? So Federation is "recruiting" players and after that clubs are hiring them? It should be reversed :D I can't believe what you said :rolll: I mean, Iran's results are miracle considering clubs aren't doing nothing. Also this explains Mirzajanpour's stagnation...
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Friday, July 8th 2016, 9:14am

Yes, on OG just one match could send you to "heaven or hell" but concentration of quality is much higher or better to say there isn't much space for mistakes :) I mean in general not only for Rio.

If you compare Iran under Kovač and Lozano there is really big difference. I'm sure Lozano will do his job...

Iran clubs don't have any youth program or teams? How is that possible? So Federation is "recruiting" players and after that clubs are hiring them? It should be reversed :D I can't believe what you said :rolll: I mean, Iran's results are miracle considering clubs aren't doing nothing. Also this explains Mirzajanpour's stagnation...

Yes effectively clubs are doing nothing. except for 3 or 4 clubs like Paykan and Kalleh. But people themselves are doing sth, there many private or semi-private volleyball halls or schools all around the country especially in the regions that volley is hot, like Urumia (city of Marouf and Ebadipour) and Gonbad (city of Ghaemi- turkmens live there it's near Turkmenistan border) and these activities are generally coordinated by each province volleyball committee which is under supervision of Federation.

Federation has a broad talent finding program which they select youth team from 10000 people and generally these people go to higher teams and clubs. It all started from 25 years ego where Ivans Bugajenkovs (2 times gold medalist from Soviet Union) came here and worked for 17 years in Iran as a coach for under age teams and programs. He even went to high schools in all the small cities all around the country to find players.

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Wednesday, July 13th 2016, 11:19am

Olympics composition is almost selected, only 1 OH must must leave

S: Saeid Marouf, Mehdi Mahdavi
Op: Shahram Mahmoudi, Amir Ghafour
L: Mehdi Marandi
MB: Mohammad Mousavi, Adel Gholami, Mostafa Sharifat
OH: Hamzeh Zarini, Milad Ebadipour, Farhad Ghaemi, Mojtaba Mirzajanpou, Javad Manavienejad

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Wednesday, July 13th 2016, 11:51am

No Zarif and Zarini will be cut IMO...
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Wednesday, July 13th 2016, 8:42pm

surprise, Lozano dropped Mirzajanpour ! I would drop Manavinejad, Mirza was actually playing good in World League as an opposite.

nevermind , turned out to be a fake news, they are still waiting for Ghafour til Sunday, he is training with the team but still injured if he can't make it , Mirza will play as opposite. otherwise they will drop one of the OHs.

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Thursday, July 14th 2016, 1:23am

Although Mobasheri is the least known player among these OHs, he indeed delivered well during WL. Zarini didn't perform well at all this year, in both offense and defense. His selection to Rio sounds to have a lot to do with his fame...

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Monday, July 18th 2016, 2:43pm

OG roster:

S: Saeid Marouf, Mehdi Mahdavi
Op: Shahram Mahmoudi, Amir Ghafour
L: Mehdi Marandi
MB: Mohammad Mousavi, Adel Gholami, Mostafa Sharifat
OH: Hamzeh Zarini, Milad Ebadipour, Farhad Ghaemi, Mojtaba Mirzajanpour

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Monday, July 18th 2016, 8:02pm

so no OG for Javad Manavienejad while Ghafour made it :wavy:
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Thursday, December 22nd 2016, 3:26am

Any update on the current situation of Iran NT? Coaches and retirements?

Also, what happened to the team volleyball iran facebook page? It was a very well organized source of information but it seems the account was closed.

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Saturday, December 24th 2016, 5:33pm

Any update on the current situation of Iran NT? Coaches and retirements?

as far as I remember only the reserve setter Mahdavi announced retirement from the NT which is a blessing in disguise :D

about the coach, they talked about so many names but apparently it will be Radostin Stoychev.

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Wednesday, December 28th 2016, 11:20pm

Italian press reports Stoychev has turned down the offer to coach Iran. Back to step 1...

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