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Kk15

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81

Tuesday, August 30th 2011, 6:41pm

Strange, the famale italian NT is only one place over the male NT whereas in the last 4 years only the female won medals...

It seems to me that for the achievment of Italian male NT of the past 4 years the 4th place is too much.

kondzio

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Favourite Team: Impel Wrocław, ZAKSA Kędzierzyn-Koźle; NTs Male: POL, RUS, BRA; NTs Female: POL, DOM, JPN, BRA, ITA, RUS

Favourite Players: Jeoselina Rodriguez, Kasia Skowrońska, Kasia Mroczkowska, Kosheleva, Jaqueline, Takeshita, Saori, Kurek, Igła, Bociek, Mikhaylov, Muserskiy, Moroz, Lucas

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Tuesday, August 30th 2011, 7:02pm

Gold medal - World League 2013 Prediction Game
Bronze medal - World League 2012 Prediction Game

brahmin

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Favourite Team: USA Men NT, USA Women NT, Japan Women NT

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83

Wednesday, August 31st 2011, 1:52pm

Strange, the famale italian NT is only one place over the male NT whereas in the last 4 years only the female won medals...

It seems to me that for the achievment of Italian male NT of the past 4 years the 4th place is too much.


Italy has had at least 8 wins in the Group Stage of the World League in the last 4 years. These matches are against International competition, so your match has a higher multiplier (continent strength x continent strength). I do not have a match multiplier (Group Stage vs. Final Round, it got too complicated when I tried to create it).

Italy won 5 matches in European Championship Qualification.

Italy was 4th at the World Championships and had 7 wins.

The matches that they have won in the last 2 years (2010 and 2011) are the main reason they are so high.

Kk15

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84

Wednesday, August 31st 2011, 2:08pm

Ok, thanks for explanation. I thought your ranking was based on the final rank/position in each competition, not also on the match results.

That's why I thought it was strange that Italy was 4th, when the higher position they reach in the past 4 years is the 4th place (and more often they got lower position than 4th).

:D

brahmin

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85

Thursday, September 1st 2011, 2:53pm

Ok, thanks for explanation. I thought your ranking was based on the final rank/position in each competition, not also on the match results.

That's why I thought it was strange that Italy was 4th, when the higher position they reach in the past 4 years is the 4th place (and more often they got lower position than 4th).

:D


My ranking system is based on set wins, points ratio and regional strength (for international matches).

A team that wins 3 sets is given three points to start, take the points ratio and subtract 1 (except if a team wins by 25 points or more add 1 + 3 = 4), then multiply by the region's strength (if playing internationally, but within a region say Europe, Asia, NORCECA, African or South American Championship =1), then multiply by the opponents ranking (((201-rank)/100), it stops at 1.00).

The most points you can get within a regional championship match is 7 pts.
The most points you can get within an international tournament is match 14 pts.

The least points you can get is 0 in any match (no set wins).

The Brazilian men and women win so many matches, it is hard to catch them!!

YavorD

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Favourite Team: Bulgarian NT, Neftochimik Burgas, Belogorie Belgorod, Sisley Treviso

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86

Monday, October 3rd 2011, 10:56pm

FIVB World Ranking as per 2nd October 2011:

1 Brazil 220.0 01 30 30.0 2 45 45.0 1 100 100 2 90 45.0 1 100 0
2 Russia 170.0 04 18 18 1 50 50.0 5 62 62 3 80 40.0 2 90 0
3 Italy 156.0 12 26 26.0 6 25 25.0 4 70 70 4 70 35.0
4 USA 147.0 -12 26 26 7 15 15.0 6 56 56 1 100 50.0 4 70 0
5 Serbia 142.5 01 30 30.0 9 10 10.0 3 80 80 5 45 22.5
6 Cuba 133.5 01 30 30 8 12 12.0 2 90 90 wq1 3 1.5
7 Bulgaria 112.5 06 10 10.0 5 30 30.0 7 50 50 5 45 22.5 3 80 0
8 Poland 109.5 03 22 22 3 40 40.0 13 25 25 5 45 22.5
9 Argentina 102.5 02 26 26.0 4 35 35.0 9 40 40 cq1 3 1.5 7 30 0
10 China 68.5 22 26 26 0 0.0 19 20 20 5 45 22.5
11 Germany 61.5 -115 2 2.0 11 7 7.0 8 45 45 9 15 7.5
12 Egypt 57.5 21 30 30 0 0.0 13 25 25 11 5 2.5 10 5 0
13 Cameroon 52.0 42 26 26.0 0 0.0 13 25 25 cq2 2 1.0
14 Iran 50.5 51 30 30 0 0.0 19 20 20 wq4 1 0.5
15 Venezuela 49.5 03 22 22.0 0 0.0 19 20 20 9 15 7.5
16 Puerto Rico 45.5 -14 18 18 16 1 1.0 13 25 25 cq1 3 1.5 6 40 0
17 France 44.0 -67 5 5.0 12 6 6.0 11 33 33
18 Japan 43.5 -55 14 14 15 2 2.0 13 25 25 11 5 2.5 9 5 0
19 Canada 42.5 33 22 22.0 0 0.0 19 20 20 cq3 1 0.5
19 Tunisia 42.5 53 22 22 0 19 20 20 cq3 1 0.5 12 5 0
21 Republic of Korea 40.5 13 22 22.0 13 4 4.0 AS-H3 13 13 wq1 3 1.5 11 5 0
22 Mexico 39.5 -15 14 14 0 0.0 13 25 25 cq4 1 0.5
23 Czech Republic 39.0 -610 3 3.0 0 0.0 10 36 36
23 Australia 39.0 44 18 18 0 19 20 20 wq2 2 1.0 8 25 0
25 Spain 32.5 -5Eu-q3 1 1.0 0 0.0 12 30 30 cq1 3 1.5 5 50 0
26 Algeria 29.5 04 18 18 0 AF-D2 10 10 cq1 3 1.5
27 Finland 29.0 -28 5 5.0 10 8 8.0 EU-I3 15 15 cq2 2 1.0
27 Slovakia 29.0 65 14 14 0 0.0 EU-K3 15 15
29 Colombia 27.0 24 18 18.0 0 0.0 SA-A2 9 9
30 India 23.0 76 10 10 AS-G3 13 13


Check the complete list at:
http://www.fivb.org/en/volleyball/VB_Ranking_M_2011-10.asp

YavorD

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Favourite Team: Bulgarian NT, Neftochimik Burgas, Belogorie Belgorod, Sisley Treviso

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87

Wednesday, December 7th 2011, 11:47am

FIVB World Ranking as per 5th December 2011:

1 Brazil 300.00 0 3 80 80 1 30 30 2 45 45 1 100 100 2 90 45
2 Russia 270.00 0 1 100 100 4 18 18 1 50 50 5 62 62 3 80 40
3 Italy 226.00 0 4 70 70 2 26 26 6 25 25 4 70 70 4 70 35
4 Poland 199.50 4 2 90 90 3 22 22 3 40 40 13 25 25 5 45 22.5
5 USA 187.00 -1 6 40 40 2 26 26 7 15 15 6 56 56 1 100 50
6 Cuba 183.50 0 5 50 50 1 30 30 8 12 12 2 90 90 wq1 3 1.5
7 Serbia 167.50 -2 8 25 25 1 30 30 9 10 10 3 80 80 5 45 22.5
8 Argentina 132.50 1 7 30 30 2 26 26 4 35 35 9 40 40 cq1 3 1.5
9 Bulgaria 112.50 -2 6 10 10 5 30 30 7 50 50 5 45 22.5
10 China 73.50 0 11 5 5 2 26 26 0 0 19 20 20 5 45 22.5
11 Egypt 62.50 1 12 5 5 1 30 30 0 0 13 25 25 11 5 2.5
12 Germany 61.50 -1 15 2 2 11 7 7 8 45 45 9 15 7.5
13 Iran 55.50 1 9 5 5 1 30 30 0 0 19 20 20 wq4 1 0.5
14 Cameroon 52.00 -1 2 26 26 0 0 13 25 25 cq2 2 1
15 Venezuela 49.50 0 3 22 22 0 0 19 20 20 9 15 7.5
16 Japan 48.50 2 10 5 5 5 14 14 15 2 2 13 25 25 11 5 2.5
17 Puerto Rico 45.50 -1 4 18 18 16 1 1 13 25 25 cq1 3 1.5
18 France 44.00 -1 7 5 5 12 6 6 11 33 33
19 Canada 42.50 0 3 22 22 0 0 19 20 20 cq3 1 0.5 19
19 Tunisia 42.50 0 3 22 22 0 19 20 20 cq3 1 0.5

Check the complete list at:
http://www.fivb.org/en/volleyball/VB_Ranking_M_2011-12.asp

brahmin

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Favourite Team: USA Men NT, USA Women NT, Japan Women NT

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88

Sunday, January 1st 2012, 4:30pm

My top 30 ranking for MEN after the 2011 season. I correctly picked 75.8% of the matches last year and since 2002, 74.5%.
Rank, Team (12/31/2010 number), FIVB (12/5/2011)
1. Brazil (1), 1
2. Russia (2), 2
3. Cuba (3), 6
4. Italy (6), 3
5. USA (4), 5
6. Poland (7), 4
7. Serbia (5), 7
8. Argentina (9), 8
9. Bulgaria (8), 9
10. Germany (11), 12
11. France (10), 18
12. Finland (12), 27
13. Japan (13), 16
14. China (16), 10
15. South Korea (17), 21
16. Egypt (15), 11
17. Iran (21), 13
18. Netherlands (14), 35
19. Spain (18), 25
20. Portugal (28), 33
21. Puerto Rico (19), 17
22. Slovakia (23), 27
23. Czech Republic (20), 23
24. Canada (30), 19
25. Slovenia (29), 36
26. Australia (26), 23
27. Venezuela (22), 15
28. Belgium (25), 40
29. Mexico (27), 22
30. Greece (24), 59

brahmin

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Favourite Team: USA Men NT, USA Women NT, Japan Women NT

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Sunday, January 1st 2012, 4:43pm

My top 30 ranking for WOMEN after the 2011 season. I correctly picked 79.8% of the matches last year and since 2002, 78.7%.

Rank, Team (12/31/2010 number), FIVB (11/18/2011)
1. Brazil (1), 2
2. USA (3), 1
3. Italy (2), 4
4. China (5), 5
5. Japan (4), 3
6. Russia (7), 6
7. Serbia (13), 6
8. Germany (9), 8
9. Poland (6), 12
10. Netherlands (8), 19
11. Dominican Republic (11), 10
12. South Korea (15), 14
13. Thailand (12), 13
14. Cuba (10), 9
15. Turkey (14), 10
16. Czech Republic (16), 23
17. Croatia (17), 29
18. Argentina (34), 18
19. Kazakhstan (25), 21
20. Azerbaijan (21), 35
21. Bulgaria (19), 42
22. Romania (22), 34
23. Puerto Rico (18), 19
24. Spain (20), 40
25. Peru (24), 17
26. France (23), 40
27. Algeria (31), 16
28. Belgium (27), 37
29. Israel (28), 47
30. Kenya (43), 15

Matthias

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Monday, July 9th 2012, 8:55pm

Newest World Rankings after World League/World Grand Prix:
Women
Men

bibetron

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Favourite Team: Russia NT

Favourite Players: Gamova, Sokolova, Artamonova, Tishchenko, Kosheleva, Goncharova, Saori, Tom, Grün

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91

Monday, July 9th 2012, 9:45pm

Will the new world rankings affect the pool composition in OG?

Matthias

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Monday, July 9th 2012, 9:49pm

No, OG pools were based on the ranking of January.

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93

Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 3:49pm

"Lo sbaglio più grande e quello di credere di aver vinto prima ancora di giocare la partita"

kondzio

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Favourite Team: Impel Wrocław, ZAKSA Kędzierzyn-Koźle; NTs Male: POL, RUS, BRA; NTs Female: POL, DOM, JPN, BRA, ITA, RUS

Favourite Players: Jeoselina Rodriguez, Kasia Skowrońska, Kasia Mroczkowska, Kosheleva, Jaqueline, Takeshita, Saori, Kurek, Igła, Bociek, Mikhaylov, Muserskiy, Moroz, Lucas

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Tuesday, August 14th 2012, 7:09pm

Gold medal - World League 2013 Prediction Game
Bronze medal - World League 2012 Prediction Game

brahmin

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brahmin

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Tuesday, May 28th 2013, 12:19am

Brahmin's Rankings through May 26, 2013 matches for men (FIVB Ranking in parenthesis)
1. Brazil (1)
2. Russia (2)
3. Italy (3)
4. Poland (4)
5. Serbia (7)
6. Cuba (6)
7. USA (5)
8. Bulgaria (8)
9. Germany (10)
10. Argentina (9)
11. France (15)
12. Finland (30)
13. Iran (14)
14. South Korea (24)
15. Japan (19)
16. Portugal (36)
17. Canada (18)
18. Netherlands (36)
19. China (16)
20. Australia (11)
21. Czech Republic (22)
22. Egypt (12)
23. Belgium (41)
24. Slovenia (36)
25. Puerto Rico (20)
26. Spain (25)
27. Estonia (36)
28. Greece (60)
29. Latvia (60)
30. Turkey (48)

brahmin

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Tuesday, May 28th 2013, 12:26am

Brahmin's Rankings through May 26, 2013 matches for women (FIVB Ranking in parenthesis)
1. Brazil (2)
2. USA (1)
3. Japan (3)
4. China (5)
5. Italy (4)
6. Serbia (9)
7. Russia (6)
8. Germany (8)
9. Turkey (7)
10. Thailand (12)
11. South Korea (11)
12. Poland (15)
13. Cuba (13)
14. Dominican Republic (10)
15. Netherlands (20)
16. Croatia (31)
17. Czech Republic (24)
18. Puerto Rico (18)
19. Bulgaria (43)
20. Azerbaijan (35)
21. Belgium (38)
22. Argentina (19)
23. Ukraine (46)
24. Slovakia (57)
25. Peru (17)
26. Trinidad & Tobago (32)
27. Belarus (38)
28. Romania (35)
29. Spain (41)
30. Israel (46)

Bartek85

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Favourite Team: Polish NT,

Favourite Players: Swiderski, Bartman, Kubiak, Glinka, Sokolova,

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98

Wednesday, January 8th 2014, 7:45pm

What was the highest Position in the world ranking in 2005-2006 the polish women had?
Andrzej Niemczyk said in an interview when he was leaving the nt we were the 6th team in the world. But i can`t remember we were so high in the ranking. Is it true what he said?

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Wednesday, January 8th 2014, 7:52pm

What was the highest Position in the world ranking in 2005-2006 the polish women had?
Andrzej Niemczyk said in an interview when he was leaving the nt we were the 6th team in the world. But i can`t remember we were so high in the ranking. Is it true what he said?

When Niemczyk was coach female NT was at 8th or 9th position, never 6th. He just don't remember it good.I don't know is it possibility to check old ranking, but somebody, right here, did it few years ago and showed female ranking after 2007 World Cup.

brahmin

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Sunday, July 20th 2014, 9:50pm

Projected FIVB Men's Rankings after Final 6 matches (Not my rankings)
1. Brazil
2. Russia
3. Italy
4. USA
5. Poland
6. Serbia
7. Cuba
8. Bulgaria
9. Argentina
10. Germany
11. Iran
12. Australia
13. France
14. Tunisia
15. Japan
16. Egypt
17. Canada
18. Czech Republic
19. China & South Korea
21. Puerto Rico
22. Cameroon & Mexico
24. Belgium
25. Netherlands
26. Finland
27. Spain
28. Colombia
29. Morocco
30. Portugal
31. Algeria & Chile
33. Dominican Rep. & Slovakia
35. Venezuela & Paraguay
37. India, Thailand & Turkey
40. Slovenia & Romania

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