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Tuesday, May 2nd 2017, 2:05pm

Russian Superleague 2017/2018

Even though current season isn't over yet there are some big news regarding the next one. According to sport bussines gazeta there will be a new club in Superleague. Gazprom will create club in St.Peterburg under name Zenit and should continue tradition of Motorist St.Petersbug, the first Russian champion. They will buy place in Superleague from Dynamo Krasnodar because they are going to keep only women team. There are several strong names linked to Zenit St.Petersburg like Oreol Camejo but so far there isn't any official transfer.

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It's known NOVA left Novokuybyishevsk and went to Samara but that won't be only change as club will change name. In season 2017/2018 they'll perform as Kryl'ya Sovetov or Novaya Samara
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Wednesday, May 3rd 2017, 3:13am

Even though current season isn't over yet there are some big news regarding the next one. According to sport bussines gazeta there will be a new club in Superleague. Gazprom will create club in St.Peterburg under name Zenit and should continue tradition of Motorist St.Petersbug, the first Russian champion. They will buy place in Superleague from Dynamo Krasnodar because they are going to keep only women team. There are several strong names linked to Zenit St.Petersburg like Oreol Camejo but so far there isn't any official transfer.

New team

It's known NOVA left Novokuybyishevsk and went to Samara but that won't be only change as club will change name. In season 2017/2018 they'll perform as Kryl'ya Sovetov or Novaya Samara


This is till a gossip, no official confirmation. I read that there is going to be some influx from Zenit (Kobzar, Sivo) into the New-Zenit.

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Sunday, May 7th 2017, 9:30pm

https://www.championat.com/volleyball/ne…-14-finala.html

In the next season playoff will start from 1/4 finals
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Wednesday, May 10th 2017, 4:39pm

http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/article/190407

Last club on this list is St.Petersburg, Dynamo Krasnodar is missing :whistle: I'm almost sure it's a done deal :call:
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Thursday, May 11th 2017, 1:39am

http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/article/190407

Last club on this list is St.Petersburg, Dynamo Krasnodar is missing :whistle: I'm almost sure it's a done deal :call:


Dinamo Krasnodar is very much present in the table and they have registered for next season. Which means that a new superambitious project from St Petersburg is going to cost slightly more to the generous money-launderer sponsor. Another option is of course to marry up with another Dinamo, Dinamo LO. It is pretty clear that there can be only one OK team in St Petersburg and the neighborhood so if the newcomer manages to jump straight into the Superleague as an independent outfit, the poor Dinamo LO would automatically drift towards the relegation.

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Monday, June 12th 2017, 12:01pm

http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/article/192666

Now it's official, Zenit St. Petersburg taking Dynamo Krasnodar's place in Superleague 2017/2018
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Wednesday, June 21st 2017, 3:52pm

http://tass.ru/sport/4355709

Sponsor paid all Dynamo Krasnodar debts (both male&female) so there is chance Superleague will have 15 clubs :rolll:
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Monday, June 26th 2017, 11:43am

http://tass.ru/sport/4355709

Sponsor paid all Dynamo Krasnodar debts (both male&female) so there is chance Superleague will have 15 clubs :rolll:


http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/news/193851/

Now it's official, Dynamo Krasnodar will play in Visshaya league next season, Zenit replaces them in Superleague
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Monday, September 11th 2017, 12:37pm

How about more information about Zenit St. Petersburg? They won their first match against Dinamo Moscow.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 5:09pm

How about more information about Zenit St. Petersburg? They won their first match against Dinamo Moscow.


St Petersburg looked like an OK team overall with decent team spirit. Apart from the obvious heroic characters, I was impressed by the setter Pankov and the libero Komarov. They look as a solod top 5 team but who knows how it goes? The game is stored here, welcome to watch if curious :
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Monday, September 11th 2017, 11:25pm

How about more information about Zenit St. Petersburg? They won their first match against Dinamo Moscow.


Gazprom's money and influence. Nothing else. Decent team which can do "damage" for sure :teach:
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Tuesday, September 12th 2017, 1:53pm

Ok, so I opened the stats sheet from Belogorie's game, played a day later than the rest, and I was shocked to find out that Grankin had signed with Shipulin's team :huh: How, when, and why? powsoff, we need you. I am wondering how I missed probably the biggest internal transfer in Russia this summer. I saw both Antipkin and Strilchuk in action for Dinamo against Zenit SP and thought that Grankin had been given a few days rest. Although all the other NT members seem to have played over the weekend. Which leads us to the second question - where is Berezhko? Is he still a Dinamo Moscow player or is he only enjoying a few days off? He is the only only missing from the golden ECH starting team.

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Tuesday, September 12th 2017, 3:00pm

Ok, so I opened the stats sheet from Belogorie's game, played a day later than the rest, and I was shocked to find out that Grankin had signed with Shipulin's team :huh: How, when, and why? powsoff, we need you. I am wondering how I missed probably the biggest internal transfer in Russia this summer. I saw both Antipkin and Strilchuk in action for Dinamo against Zenit SP and thought that Grankin had been given a few days rest. Although all the other NT members seem to have played over the weekend. Which leads us to the second question - where is Berezhko? Is he still a Dinamo Moscow player or is he only enjoying a few days off? He is the only only missing from the golden ECH starting team.


Grankin moved in June, the key reason being the conflict he has been having with Marichev since the 2016 cup. Apparently the issue was the amount of workout Marichev expected Dinamo players should do. The other important transfer from Dinamo to Belgorod was Bakun. Dinamo has also sold Biryukov to Belgorod but Biryukov got injured whilst at the NT so he's off till February. Berezhko stays with Dinamo - yes, he was given some rest.

The bottom line is that Belgorod and, possibly, Novosibirsk are in clash for gold with Kazan. Moscow and SPb compete for CEV cup spot. On the paper, Belgorod has the strongest roster. It's been long since Belgorod had a setter of Grankin's level - I guess Khamuttskikh in his golden days was a comparable asset. The two "newsomer" OHs they used in the opening game (Semenov and Spodobets) looked nothing but superb with Grankin's sets. Muserskiy had 17 out of 19 in attack. Bakun is obviously not weaker than Grozer, Obmochaev is a top notch libero. Don't know, this can be the end of Zenit's Gazprom funding dominance. There's also a goss that Belgorod is in talks with some Polish OH. Who would that be?

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Tuesday, September 12th 2017, 4:44pm

Ok, so I opened the stats sheet from Belogorie's game, played a day later than the rest, and I was shocked to find out that Grankin had signed with Shipulin's team :huh: How, when, and why? powsoff, we need you. I am wondering how I missed probably the biggest internal transfer in Russia this summer. I saw both Antipkin and Strilchuk in action for Dinamo against Zenit SP and thought that Grankin had been given a few days rest. Although all the other NT members seem to have played over the weekend. Which leads us to the second question - where is Berezhko? Is he still a Dinamo Moscow player or is he only enjoying a few days off? He is the only only missing from the golden ECH starting team.


Grankin moved in June, the key reason being the conflict he has been having with Marichev since the 2016 cup. Apparently the issue was the amount of workout Marichev expected Dinamo players should do. The other important transfer from Dinamo to Belgorod was Bakun. Dinamo has also sold Biryukov to Belgorod but Biryukov got injured whilst at the NT so he's off till February. Berezhko stays with Dinamo - yes, he was given some rest.

The bottom line is that Belgorod and, possibly, Novosibirsk are in clash for gold with Kazan. Moscow and SPb compete for CEV cup spot. On the paper, Belgorod has the strongest roster. It's been long since Belgorod had a setter of Grankin's level - I guess Khamuttskikh in his golden days was a comparable asset. The two "newsomer" OHs they used in the opening game (Semenov and Spodobets) looked nothing but superb with Grankin's sets. Muserskiy had 17 out of 19 in attack. Bakun is obviously not weaker than Grozer, Obmochaev is a top notch libero. Don't know, this can be the end of Zenit's Gazprom funding dominance. There's also a goss that Belgorod is in talks with some Polish OH. Who would that be?
Thanks! I fully agree about Grankin. He is one of the overlooked setters in the game, even some people here don't have a super high opinion of him. To me, Grankin is surely one of the world's top setters and one of this generation's best. I would put Butko in that list, too.

I would surely love to watch Belogorie's opener, as well as their next games. Mostly, I want to see Konstantin Semenov indoors :) Where I would slightly divert is Belogorie's roster being the best. What bothers me is their OH selection. I think Tetyukhin missed the perfect time to retire, he can't just be super useful for a whole season. Unfortunately, I don't see how Spodobets, Semenov, and Iereshchenko would challenge Zenit for the title. Biryukov is no monster, but with him things could've been a bit brighter indeed. In my opinion, among all real title contenders, Belogorie has the weakest OHs. And I put the newly created Gazprom project in SP in that list immediately because of the players they gathered. They won't become champions probably, yet I think they have more class than this year's Dinamo Moscow. It was a bad timing for them to meet already in the opening round, the return game (hopefully, with a fit Berezhko) will show whether they are better indeed.

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Tuesday, September 12th 2017, 6:57pm

Ok, so I opened the stats sheet from Belogorie's game, played a day later than the rest, and I was shocked to find out that Grankin had signed with Shipulin's team :huh: How, when, and why? powsoff, we need you. I am wondering how I missed probably the biggest internal transfer in Russia this summer. I saw both Antipkin and Strilchuk in action for Dinamo against Zenit SP and thought that Grankin had been given a few days rest. Although all the other NT members seem to have played over the weekend. Which leads us to the second question - where is Berezhko? Is he still a Dinamo Moscow player or is he only enjoying a few days off? He is the only only missing from the golden ECH starting team.


Grankin moved in June, the key reason being the conflict he has been having with Marichev since the 2016 cup. Apparently the issue was the amount of workout Marichev expected Dinamo players should do. The other important transfer from Dinamo to Belgorod was Bakun. Dinamo has also sold Biryukov to Belgorod but Biryukov got injured whilst at the NT so he's off till February. Berezhko stays with Dinamo - yes, he was given some rest.

The bottom line is that Belgorod and, possibly, Novosibirsk are in clash for gold with Kazan. Moscow and SPb compete for CEV cup spot. On the paper, Belgorod has the strongest roster. It's been long since Belgorod had a setter of Grankin's level - I guess Khamuttskikh in his golden days was a comparable asset. The two "newsomer" OHs they used in the opening game (Semenov and Spodobets) looked nothing but superb with Grankin's sets. Muserskiy had 17 out of 19 in attack. Bakun is obviously not weaker than Grozer, Obmochaev is a top notch libero. Don't know, this can be the end of Zenit's Gazprom funding dominance. There's also a goss that Belgorod is in talks with some Polish OH. Who would that be?
According to World of Volley, THE Polish OH is likely to be Mateusz Mika. If he does come, Belogorie would be more crowded and competitive. Given there are already two oversea players in the club, Mika would surely put someone onto the bench, but I am sure Nikolay Nikolov would be fine.

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Wednesday, September 13th 2017, 1:58am


Thanks! I fully agree about Grankin. He is one of the overlooked setters in the game, even some people here don't have a super high opinion of him. To me, Grankin is surely one of the world's top setters and one of this generation's best. I would put Butko in that list, too.

I would surely love to watch Belogorie's opener, as well as their next games. Mostly, I want to see Konstantin Semenov indoors :) Where I would slightly divert is Belogorie's roster being the best. What bothers me is their OH selection. I think Tetyukhin missed the perfect time to retire, he can't just be super useful for a whole season. Unfortunately, I don't see how Spodobets, Semenov, and Iereshchenko would challenge Zenit for the title. Biryukov is no monster, but with him things could've been a bit brighter indeed. In my opinion, among all real title contenders, Belogorie has the weakest OHs. And I put the newly created Gazprom project in SP in that list immediately because of the players they gathered. They won't become champions probably, yet I think they have more class than this year's Dinamo Moscow. It was a bad timing for them to meet already in the opening round, the return game (hopefully, with a fit Berezhko) will show whether they are better indeed.
Well, obviously Belgorod is not in possession of the likes of Leon and Anderson (and Biryukov was supposed to be a big part of their plan) but things are not that bad. Tetyukhin and Yereshenko carried them through last season pretty OK in terms of reception. From what I could see, Semenov and Spodobets can work against teams like Dinamo LO or Ural. Theoretically, the opposite Danilov can receive too. The two big pros are that Belgorod is by far the best team in the middle and the firepower from the service line should be pretty colossal. This obviously depends on various factors, they wasted 26 serves in the first game but in theory they can bring tons of trouble. The weakest link of Belgorod - as for me - is the same as it was last year. They are being coached by Bogomolov this year who is being assisted by Kazakov so there's great chance of various idiocy going on and opportunities being missed, just like it happened a year ago. I can't believe it: the guys signed essentially a NT squad but failed to employ a pro coach!

The matches are recorded and available at tv start if you're curious:
http://tvstart.ru/en/lists/calendar/



According to World of Volley, THE Polish OH is likely to be Mateusz Mika. If he does come, Belogorie would be more crowded and competitive. Given there are already two oversea players in the club, Mika would surely put someone onto the bench, but I am sure Nikolay Nikolov would be fine.
AFAIC, the other overseas player, Yereshenko, is not an overseas player anymore. Mika makes sense as they may want someone tall (replacement for Khtey). Unclear though how healthy Mika is - Belgorod clearly doesn't need someone as sick as Khtey.

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Friday, September 15th 2017, 8:05pm

Fakel looks a very good team. Moroz + youngsters of russian NT. :win:
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Monday, September 18th 2017, 10:21pm

How about more information about Zenit St. Petersburg? They won their first match against Dinamo Moscow.


St Petersburg looked like an OK team overall with decent team spirit. Apart from the obvious heroic characters, I was impressed by the setter Pankov and the libero Komarov. They look as a solod top 5 team but who knows how it goes? The game is stored here, welcome to watch if curious :
http://tvstart.ru/en/streams/dinamo-mosk…ssii-muzhchiny/
I thought Pankov looked familiar, he's the setter of Russia's U23 team. He's pretty good.

Btw, why is Poletaev bench-warming for Kuzbass? Is he injured or it's the coaches decision?

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Wednesday, September 20th 2017, 8:58am

Poletaev just recovered from a serious injury
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Friday, September 22nd 2017, 9:59pm

Although he got appointed as an assistant to Gennagy Shipulin (as all his recent ancestors in Belgorod), Gheorghe Cretu sat on the bench as a head coach for today's match versus Zenit St. Petersburg. We know how it goes over there, powsoff described the situation pretty well. It means that Belogorie hired a full-time, experienced coach. He may not be a big name, but it is an upgrade to the experiment that had been going for some time.

I could only watch the last set of the match tonight and I saw some very troubling mistakes from the visitors. That must've been the worst set of volleyball played by Camejo, the guy looks like a shadow of the player we know. Maybe he will need some time to adjust to good, old European volleyball after the Korean adventure. Yeah, I will watch the previous sets also, they were probably more intensive and I can't generalise from an excerpt only, but mistakes are mistakes, no matter whether in the opening or in the last set.

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