The 2012 CEV Champions League

Quote from toraypower

Vasilena, I love this post, so crazy I will just tell you, that Winiarski talked after match with Polsat's reporter and he said, that 'I talked with Berezhko, he said, that ball touched him'.

So since his words are authentic, for me the question around this situation is clear

As general that was the first serious step on international level for trying the "hawk eye" in volleyball, watching the whole F4, I just think that the rules about using it should be different, more strict and clear, not the way it was on this tournament. There is still what to be wished about the reglamentation of the system, in order to be really effective.

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There were plenty of examples of obvious mistakes which helped SKRA last couple of days
BTW, it's ironic that exactly Winiarski blew the last point, and was begging for a blockout- there was a point early in the 2nd set, I think, when he took a really heavy and obvious hit in his left arm so it's probably gonna hurt at least 2-3 more days, but it was called out He tasted some of his own medicine

WOW Plenty? You're writing only about the situation with Winiarski and BTW then Zenit had a point (LOL). Yeah, plenty. So what was really so hurtful for you? Aces of Kurek and Możdżonek? Just stunning polish audience and their pressure on Zenit? I don't understand you. Sorry, no bonus.

Article from polish biggest newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza written by Rafał Stec
It tell us what many people think about Skra's achievements in Europe and they are right

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Champions League Final was beautiful and dramatic, the level of sports
it holds also fell into memory because of the tears of Skra’s
volleyball players, who felt that they were separated from victory with
little things invisible to the naked eye. From this momeory it is sorry
to hear and read commentators trying to bring the spectacle to the
judge's mistake, to convince fans that Skra was robbed.

Well, was not. On the contrary, the final of the volleyball players taken were in the hands of activists

In
the first round Skra did not even win their group, to advancewas enough
to overtake them very average ACH Volley and Budva Rivijera
Ljubljana.

With the second round, in which you have been through difficult tie, were released.

In the third round, where the scale of the difficulties still growing, were released.

In the final game they were hosts.

In
the semi-finals as a rival they got Arkas Izmir, the weakest
participant in Lodz, although elementary logic would dictate rather to
separate a second pair of Zenit Kazan and Trento, the strongest clubs of
the previous edition of the Champions League.

Turks were broken
by Belchatow in three sets, and then Skra had more time to regenerate
than the masters of Russian and Italian masters, as Skra jumped onto
the pitch before.

In short, crossed the road to the summit in a
litter. It is hard to imagine privileges that would make it more
enjoyable. A right to choose a rival in the final?

It is also
difficult to imagine what must happen for Skra that they finally will
win the coveted trophy, if not they didn’t manage in the so favourable
circumstances . And despite three matchpoints in the final.

I
am writing this with pain, because I will not question the effort of
innocent volleyball players , but the truth is brutal: to win the
European club vice-championships it is enough to distance the
representatives of Montenegro (15th in the league ranking of CEV),
Slovenia (11th) and Turkey (7 .). Skra did not have to overcome any
large company. They are still the most favored team on the continent.

In
Five years time they held a final tournament three times, although all
the other cities did it no more than one time. On the pitch they
neverget promotion in the knockout rounds and in that period they won
seven of 14 matches. Intuition tells us that Skra belong to the leading
edge, but Skra never proved it. Whenever they were hosts in the Final
Four they lost with russian teams. And it always happened in Skra’s
hall.

Twisted, encouraging combining routine of volleyball rules
have produced a lot of paradoxes. Another is that although Skra is
multimedalist of Champions League (bronze, bronze, silver), the only
Polish clubs that pierced hand to the final tournament, remain -
Mostostal Kędzierzyn and Jastrzębski Wegiel. They did not achieve
Final, but in sports they achieved more.

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Quote from tomdoki

timbyak, Bierieżko touched the ball and he said it to Winiarski so I don't know what is all the fuss about...

And I would add that the second referee talked with the first after this action and I wonder if he didn't say to him that it was touched... Which ofc doesn't change anything but I'm just wondering about that...

Quote from YavorD

With no intentions to hurt anyone, I want to say that to me showing this situation again and again on the big screen during the awarding ceremony is a bit pathetic!

For me it's not only pathetic but also nasty and cruel and I have to say that as a Pole I feel terrible with that. If I was there, probably I'd do anything to find some guys from Zenit after the ceremony to say how much I'm sorry with that situation and congratulate them this gold.

Quote from toraypower

Well, I think, that Nawrocki is safe, because he is a coach who won silver medal, the best in the Skra's history. It wouldn't be fair for him. These words said by Nawrocki, which you quoted were fucking true, but unfortunately Skra didn't take it to their hearts. Of course, they could win it by tactic, 'cause Nawrocki was still talking, that just Kurek can risk in service, he said that before first matchball to Wlazly TWICE! And of course, Mariusz made a serve in the net, 120km/h and goodbay.

Don't you think that it should be the reason of leting Nawrocki go? Players don't listen to him, they have no good relation with him. I want Piechocki to finally see this. You saw what happened then. Nawrocki said "Don't risk on serve" and they did exactly opposite.

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So let me get this straight- polish fans are blaming the referees for the defeat?

For sure, some of them are blaming referees. Emotions are doing theirs. Personally, I was really angry, then sad, then I felt indifference... but Skra had chances, no one should blame referee for their lost, for the mistake yes, but not for the lost. Zenit won because they were better this time. That's my opinion.

EDIT. tomdoki, the guy from the video is like crazy Buba from Formacja Chatelet unbelievable

Quote from Bartek

I have watched interview with Alekno and He unlightened something, He said-

On Sunday I won Gold Medal during the controversial situation >was block or not<. But in September I lost Euro Final versus Serbia in the same situation. He waited about 7 months to repay.

I've always believed that these things come back to you in life one way or another

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Buahahahahahahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha siatka.org doesn't like Skra They did test for Users:

When will Skra Belchatow win the Champions League?

A- still, for three, four, or even a hundred times a charm
B- when in the final will face the Arkas Izmir
C- only when the Italian and Russian clubs will be excluded
D- when the referee will be Robots and during the meeting They will work with hundreds of cameras
E- when the Final Four will be played in Belgium

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I don't understand the last one...What will change for Skra if FF is in Belgium?

Luckily, GMC Network likes Skra and he made another nice video:

Did Miguel really say "Oj tam, oj tam" to Nawrocki?

Dejan Jovanovic, referee from final's match has to pay 5000 EUR because of wrong decision, which he made on matchpoint for Zenit.

Quote from toraypower

Dejan Jovanovic, referee from final's match has to pay 5000 EUR because of wrong decision, which he made on matchpoint for Zenit.

This is ridiculous

Quote from raylight

This is ridiculous