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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:01pm

What I meant is. They choose Conegliano to face the winner of Moscow/Modena, because they are the weaker match up, compared to Vakifibank/Volero and Vitra/Fenerbache. Of course Moscow is a strong team, but on the paper the Turkish Teams and Volero are stronger. Of course Conegliano has a better chance against Moscow than against Vakfibank or Vitra.

I would assume they would do the same thing with the men`s. Perugia would have a much better chance against the winner of Berlin/Moscow. Instead facing the winner of Modena/Lube.

But they want to make sure a Italian makes to the final at least. Because if Berlin upsets Perugia and Kazan beats Lube. Then no Italian team in the final.

In short, they gave Conegliano the easier path to the Final ( Vakfibank and Vitra are stronger than Moscow).
They could have done the same thing here by letting Perugia face Berlin, but they did not , and that is fair. Kazan is the strongest and deserves to face the weakest Berlin.


It's been said over and over that CEV wants no redundancy in the finals. No matter what the host country is.

Conegliano got lucky because rules are rules. That's just the way it is.
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:23pm

OMG rdfabio!! I understood your message-behind-the-line also in the first post that I quote, my answer was provocative because I can't stand anymore your 'it's all a scheme to favorite Italy' thing: it's getting reaaaally boring and even annoying :thumbdown:

I'm sorry if we are that good to have 3 teams first in their pools :whistle:, while Poland and Russia only had one first (for Russia, the one that got the final, as it's should have been; for Poland, do I have to remind you that not even one Polish team was able to overcome Italy/Russia and reach the Play Off 6, let along the Final4??).
How was Italy 'lucky' (and the same it's true for Kazan and Zaksa) if two first of the pool could have face each others in the Play off 6?
I'll say that the lucky were Berlin and Mosca, that ended up not having a single first in their path to the final4 ;)



and another thing. This thing of CEV not wanting 2 teams from the same country in the final, makes no sense. They are representing their Club and not their Country.

I really think they did change the rule this time, since hypothetically two Polish team could meet in the final.
Still, I didn't watch the sorting, so I'm not sure how they picked the combinations for the semi.

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:41pm

OMG rdfabio!! I understood your message-behind-the-line also in the first post that I quote, my answer was provocative because I can't stand anymore your 'it's all a scheme to favorite Italy' thing: it's getting reaaaally boring and even annoying :thumbdown:

I'm sorry if we are that good to have 3 teams first in their pools :whistle:, while Poland and Russia only had one first (for Russia, the one that got the final, as it's should have been; for Poland, do I have to remind you that not even one Polish team was able to overcome Italy/Russia and reach the Play Off 6, let along the Final4??).
How was Italy 'lucky' (and the same it's true for Kazan and Zaksa) if two first of the pool could have face each others in the Play off 6?
I'll say that the lucky were Berlin and Mosca, that ended up not having a single first in their path to the final4 ;)



and another thing. This thing of CEV not wanting 2 teams from the same country in the final, makes no sense. They are representing their Club and not their Country.

I really think they did change the rule this time, since hypothetically two Polish team could meet in the final.
Still, I didn't watch the sorting, so I'm not sure how they picked the combinations for the semi.


They can probably shake the draw like they do in football to prevent that.

Honestly, it's just CEV's way to keep the audience engaged.

Nothing wrong with that. It's not like we have tens or thousands of foreign fans who have the money and the time to watch the game live in another country.

It's not like there is good seeding in sports besides Tennis anyway. Last Olympics was messy tbh.
Or even football.
Honestly, the Bayern-Real Madrid or Barca-Juve quarterfinals in european cup competitiion is highway criminal. :white: But that's just the way it is.
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:47pm

The lack of reliable outside hitters for Modena is just killing them. :white:
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:50pm

Great chase by Modena but wrong choice for Travica costing them again.
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 8:57pm

Great chase by Modena but wrong choice for Travica costing them again.
After the 2nd technical timeout, yes it was a great chase for Modena but then Lube managed to serve/receive/blocks well.

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:01pm

The lack of reliable outside hitters for Modena is just killing them. :white:
But Sokolov outplays Vetori also...Sokolov is always very aggressive and can hit the ball from anywhere. Vetori can do that too, but not quite as Sokolov does.

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:16pm

The lack of reliable outside hitters for Modena is just killing them. :white:
But Sokolov outplays Vetori also...Sokolov is always very aggressive and can hit the ball from anywhere. Vetori can do that too, but not quite as Sokolov does.


The gap between Petric and Juantorena/Kovar is astronomical. Petric can't do anything good whether its defense or offense Modena needs an OH who can balance out Ngapeth when he's being targeted by servers, attackers.
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:24pm

If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:26pm

isn`t the game already over??

Lube won the first game 3-0. Once they already won the 1set... Modena needed to win in 3-0 to get a golden set?
If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:27pm

isn`t the game already over??

Lube won the first game 3-0. Once they already won the 1set... Modena should have won in 3-0 to get a golden set?
If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:


It's decided through match points. Doesn't matter how many sets you win.
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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:30pm

oh okk....well now it is over.
isn`t the game already over??

Lube won the first game 3-0. Once they already won the 1set... Modena should have won in 3-0 to get a golden set?
If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:


It's decided through match points. Doesn't matter how many sets you win.

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:31pm

isn`t the game already over??

Lube won the first game 3-0. Once they already won the 1set... Modena should have won in 3-0 to get a golden set?
If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:


It's decided through match points. Doesn't matter how many sets you win.
Oh really? Match points? I had no idea about this.

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Thursday, April 13th 2017, 9:56pm

isn`t the game already over??

Lube won the first game 3-0. Once they already won the 1set... Modena should have won in 3-0 to get a golden set?
If Petric can't find his form, this game is over. :white:


It's decided through match points. Doesn't matter how many sets you win.
Oh really? Match points? I had no idea about this.


Modena needs to win the Lube Playoffs in Serie A or it'll be relegated to CEV Cup next season. :tzz:
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Friday, April 14th 2017, 3:53pm

Do you have any link for Lube-Modena match? Laola hasn't put it online yet... :(

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Tuesday, April 18th 2017, 8:56pm

An interesting initiative by Rome for the CL!
Two museum (of 15) free with the CL tickets!
If you want any advice feel free to ask ;)

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Wednesday, April 26th 2017, 4:45pm

All I want to see is Lube-Kazan final, two best teams of Europe fighting for the title.
No subpar performance please

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Thursday, April 27th 2017, 1:35am

It seems there will be 5000 Perugia fans plus 350 from Berlin and 250 from Kazan. I don't know about Civitanova.
Overall more than 9.000 tickets was bought so far.

I must admit I wasn't' so optimist!

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Thursday, April 27th 2017, 2:47am

My friends bought the tickets right after we were announced as host of the F4. Probably our supporters will be even more in the next days. Many people can't have long time programs because of their job and so on... I wish I could be there: when the other Perugia won the 2009/10 Challenge Cup I felt in love with the Charlottenburg's supporters; they're just amazing. They stayed with us when we played Mladost. They supported our team. And their players came among them and us, giving everybody the five. I remember a young but already amazing Salvodor Hidalgo Oliva giving me the five. I can say the same about the supperers of Dukla Liberec and their players. Amazing people. :obey:
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Thursday, April 27th 2017, 7:03pm

All due to respect to Perugia fans, I don't think all of the 5000 Perugia fans will be there by their own resources. Probably Perugia's crazy president will sponsor majority of them. This is the way it works for big Turkish bank clubs like Halkbank, Ziraat.
Looking at how CEV promote Perugia ,I wonder if he can also 'buy' the final :whistle:

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