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Emil

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Thursday, December 7th 2017, 3:45pm

Pool A is ridiculous and OBVIOUSLY the host team is there :rolleyes: :rolll: :aww:

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Favourite Team: Cuban NT, Turkish NT, VAKIFBANK

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482

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 6:41pm

Pool A is ridiculous and OBVIOUSLY the host team is there :rolleyes: :rolll: :aww:

Why is it a surprise? The host is always seeded as 1 and get the 8th and 9th position in the overall ranking. To me, the odd part is why Argentina is in Pool A but not DOM that is actually the 9th in the world ranking. Maybe they use the serpentine system only for top 8 and 'draw' rest of the teams:rolleyes:

By the way, I agree on final 16. Apparently, FIVB doesn't want to take the risk of that Japan might be eliminated in such an early stage. Then at least, there should be quarterfinals as in OG. This formula is so pointless :aww: Which group do you guys think is the hardest one?

Sisko95

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483

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 6:56pm

Group C is hardest. In the other groups it is easy to predict who will be the top 4 (not necessarily the order).

But with group C you have USA and Russia who should dominate, T&T who will surely lose every match and then Korea, Thailand and Azerbaijan all fighting for 2 spots and I think they are all quite evenly matched.

Group D has 2 very strong teams, followed by DOM and PUR, I guess Kazakhstan have a small chance of upsetting PUR?

Group B has 4 really good teams, but I don't think Canada or current Cuba can compete with them

Group A is a joke

JoanaBG

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Thursday, December 7th 2017, 7:06pm


Maybe they use the serpentine system only for top 8 and 'draw' rest of the teams:rolleyes:


Yes, that's how they did it. The rest were divided into four pots with four teams and drawn randomly.

The "non-Japanese" half of the draw is obviously stronger. And the system really is a mess, it's too long and the third stage is really pointless. I'd much rather see QFs instead too.

Sisko95

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485

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 7:11pm

A 5th rank match will take place on the same day as semifinals
Ugh, why? I get why you have a 3rd place match (bronze medal) but 5th place??? Surely the players will be so disappointed from being eliminated they won't care about finishing 5th or 6th of all things :down:

JoanaBG

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Thursday, December 7th 2017, 7:19pm

I remember the WCh '06 ended with the 5th place play-off (featuring Japan, of course), it was played after the final. :rolll:

Sisko95

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487

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 7:24pm

:lol: FIVB is so ridiculous

I suppose I should just be pleased the days of playoffs all the way down to 11th place are over :lol:

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Favourite Team: Cuban NT, Turkish NT, VAKIFBANK

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Thursday, December 7th 2017, 7:58pm


Maybe they use the serpentine system only for top 8 and 'draw' rest of the teams:rolleyes:


Yes, that's how they did it. The rest were divided into four pots with four teams and drawn randomly.

The "non-Japanese" half of the draw is obviously stronger. And the system really is a mess, it's too long and the third stage is really pointless. I'd much rather see QFs instead too.

Thanks for the clarification! The ranking among ARG, KOR, DOM and TUR is not realistic anyway so it is not a bad idea to just draw it

Matthias

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489

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 8:43pm

I remember the WCh '06 ended with the 5th place play-off (featuring Japan, of course), it was played after the final. :rolll:
And Takeshita was MVP :aww:

Toguttt

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490

Thursday, December 7th 2017, 10:24pm

It's a scandal, once again, that the host team has a ridiculous pool.
I'm Italian so I shouldn't speak, as Italy had ridiculous pool too when we were the host.
But things must change, FIVB must change

inc0gnito

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491

Friday, December 8th 2017, 1:21am

Since Russia and USA will be in the same pool, here's a throwback to one of their matches in Round 1 last WCH 14. The 1st set in particular was already a tiebreaker 34-32!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBHqo5juv4


This year marked Gamova's return to the NT after London, Kosheleva being the best attacker in the world at that time, and Goncharova's emergence as one of the top players. So much memories!

jetmasters

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492

Friday, December 8th 2017, 3:01am

Teams can lose a match each round and still have a chance for gold. It all comes down to stamina.

493

Friday, December 8th 2017, 6:41am

Kosheleva​ the best attacker in the world? LMAO​ :dance6: :dance6:

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494

Friday, December 8th 2017, 10:59am

Kosheleva​ the best attacker in the world? LMAO​ :dance6: :dance6:

At that time yes she was incredible that year.Both. zhu ting and boskovic just.debuted that year

Mapuan

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495

Friday, December 8th 2017, 3:00pm

Since Russia and USA will be in the same pool, here's a throwback to one of their matches in Round 1 last WCH 14. The 1st set in particular was already a tiebreaker 34-32!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBHqo5juv4


This year marked Gamova's return to the NT after London, Kosheleva being the best attacker in the world at that time, and Goncharova's emergence as one of the top players. So much memories!
How many blocks did Harmatto make in 1st set alone?

inc0gnito

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Favourite Players: W: Nataliya Goncharova, Irina Fetisova, Tatiana Kosheleva, Evgeniya Startseva, Stefana Veljkovic, Maja Ognejovic, Saori Kimura, Thaisa Menesez M: Maxim Mikhaylov

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496

Friday, December 8th 2017, 8:56pm

Kosheleva​ the best attacker in the world? LMAO​ :dance6: :dance6:
Yes she was regarded by most as the best attacker at the time and even Paul Sunderland labeled her as that. Back in her prime or her "Golden days" circa 2013-2015, she was such a powerful spiking machine with incredible height reach (whether or not she still has those skills now is a different topic) and I think no OH really came close to her attacking-wise. Kosheleva's decline I would argue only really happened in 2016 forward and we never really know the exact reason. Her NT teammate, Goncharova only improved her game and doesn't appear to suffer the same fate.

inc0gnito

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Friday, December 8th 2017, 8:59pm

Since Russia and USA will be in the same pool, here's a throwback to one of their matches in Round 1 last WCH 14. The 1st set in particular was already a tiebreaker 34-32!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBHqo5juv4


This year marked Gamova's return to the NT after London, Kosheleva being the best attacker in the world at that time, and Goncharova's emergence as one of the top players. So much memories!
How many blocks did Harmatto make in 1st set alone?
A ton! IMO Akinradewo-Harmotto was the strongest MB duo US had in recent years. If only Foluke improved her blocking skills :whistle:

498

Friday, December 8th 2017, 9:26pm

I think you forgot Kim, she was the best attacker and queen :cup:
Sorry for my bad English ^^

499

Saturday, December 9th 2017, 1:54am

how is ARG ranked higher than THA, PUR, AZE, BUL? what a joke. that's why pool A is so easy for the hosts. how convenient...

i don't think AZE will play as well as playing at home. even at home, they totally sucked in the semis and bronze medal match.

i would not like to see a round of 16 (like fifa) but i also think this 3rd round is totally unnecessary and stupid. fivb has the worst ideas, like this and pools of 3 teams. :aww: :aww: :thumbdown: :wall:

canter, CUB is about 3rd-level these days, they played in the GP group 3 last year. they are about the level of teams like COL, PER, ARG, these days...

500

Saturday, December 9th 2017, 5:57am

Teams can lose a match each round and still have a chance for gold. It all comes down to stamina.

Which works in the favor of the host as well. It's a total conspiracy. Unless larger people with more weight to lug around really do use less energy doing it . lol
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Posted by ZodiacTTT: "Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them :down:" Reported as inappropriate but condoned by moderators who enjoy watching grumpy old men disrespect young women. Typical.

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