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ST2008

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 3:06am

Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them
tbf, I think the ball was out. The only person to be blamed is the hawk eye guy who didn't show the footage long enough and also for not having zoomed the contact point.
I also put a picture of Zhu Ting in my Avatar and I put Zhu Ting's name in my Signature. Are you going to ban me as well? And what about those who have their favorite player and their favorite team in their avatar and in their signature ?? Are you going to apply the same "standard" to everyone???

482

Monday, September 11th 2017, 5:19am

Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them :down:

^ This is the end of the line for me. :down:

Thanks for the memories guys and gals :white:

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 5:44am

Awards for the tournament.

Most Valuable Player: Zhu Ting (CHN)
Best Outside Spikers: Zhu Ting (CHN), Jordan Larson (USA)
Best Middle Blockers: Ana Carolina Da Silva (BRA), Yuan Xinyue (CHN)
Best Setter: Koyomi Tominaga (JPN)
Best Opposite Spiker: Tandara Caixeta (BRA)
Best Libero: Kotoe Inoue (JPN)


Top Scorer by Day
28 – Tandara Caixeta of Brazil v Russia on September 5
33 – Zhu Ting of China v Brazil on September 6
27 – Nataliya Goncharova of Russia v USA on September 8
22 – Andrea Drews of USA v Japan on September 9
26 – Zhu Ting of China v Japan on September 10

Top Scoring Performances
33 – Zhu Ting of China v Brazil on September 6
28 – Tandara Caixeta of Brazil v Russia on September 5
27 – Nataliya Goncharova of Russia v USA on September 8
26 – Zhu Ting of China v Japan on September 10
22 – Andrea Drews of USA v Japan on September 9

Top Individual Serving Performances
4 – Mariia Frolova of Russia v USA on September 8
4 – Kimberly Hill of USA on September 8
4 – Koyomi Tominaga of Japan v Russia on September 6
4 – Tandara Caixeta of Brazil v Russia on September 5

Top Team Serving Performances
11 – Brazil v Russia on September 5
11 – USA v Russia on September 8
9 – Japan v Russia on September 6

Top Individual Blocking Performances
7 – Irina Filishtinskaia of Russia v Japan on September 6
6 – Erika Araki of Japan v Brazil on September 8
6 – Ana Carolina Da Silva of Brazil v Russia on September 5
5 – Ana Carolina Da Silva of Brazil v China on September 6
5 – Ana Beatriz Correa of Brazil v China on September 6
5 – Ana Beatriz Correa of Brazil v Russia on September 5

Top Team Blocking Performances
18 – Brazil v Russia on September 5
17 – USA v Japan on September 9
17 – Russia v Japan on September 6
16 – Russia v USA on September 8
16 – Brazil v China on September 6

Highest Scoring Sets
28-26 – Japan v USA on September 9
28-26 – Russia v Japan on September 6
27-25 – Brazil v Japan on September 8
26-24 – Japan v China on September 10
26-24 – Japan v Korea on September 5

Highest Scoring Matches
230 – Japan v USA 2-3 (22-25, 25-21, 28-26, 21-25, 12-15) on September 9
211 – Brazil v China 2-3 (20-25, 12-25, 25-20, 25-23, 17-19) on September 6
208 – USA v Russia 3-2 (23-25, 25-21, 19-25, 25-21, 15-9) on September 8
181 – China v Japan 3-1 (25-22, 24-26, 25-18, 25-16) on September 10
175 – Russia v Brazil 1-3 (17-25, 25-23, 23-25, 12-25) on September 5

Don't get Jordon Larson as one of the best outside hitters.

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484

Monday, September 11th 2017, 5:57am

Don't get Jordon Larson as one of the best outside hitters.
Well. she was by far USA's best player this tournament, and since USA had to have one name in the dream team...
Personally I'd have given it to Gabi.
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Monday, September 11th 2017, 6:33am

totally OT, but i went back to watch a little bit of the US x CHN match in london.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I6EWdhgEqI

since we were talking about announcers, i don't get why they chose this brit dude commentator who doesn't know NOTHING about volleyball... and he shows his ignorance.

but looking at the starters, there are a lot of players we miss today in both teams. the only starters still with the NT are foluke and larson (and none of the CHN players). i miss zhang lei so much. and i know many miss destiny hooker.

those were the days!!!!!

The 2012 Summer Olympics in London
"Those were the days" when the USA team was on its top level while the CHN team was on its record low (in the modern volleyball)... so low the CHN team even failed to pass the quarterfinals and was beaten by the JPN team 2-3 there in a tight match... a few modern Olympics whereas the CHN ended up empty handedly. And I think that was the best achievement of the JPN team against the CHN squad in the modern era, as well as JPN's best achievement in Olympics in the modern times grabbing the bronze medal, Saori Kimura was the captain of the successful team while Wang Yi-mei was the doomed warrior from the loser. Also the concluding moment of my self being stopped watching volleyball for the deep "ill-feel" of such disappointingly useless low quality and uncompetitive CHN squad... took a 2-year sabbatical leave until the 2014 WCh in ITA. Certainly not a pleasing moment yet equally an unforgettable fragment of time :whistle: :rolleyes:

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486

Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:15pm

Why Wang Yi-mei is not playing in NT?She retired?Injury problems?Attitude problems?Low performances after 2012?
I dont think Gong or Zeng Chunlei are better players than she is
"Zhu Ting arrives" :super:

487

Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:20pm

i don't know why wang left the team or was left out, but it's been many years. but both zeng and gong can receive serve, and WYM can't, so they are very useful. i think wang had some years as a destroyer but later, her hitting declined so maybe that's why.

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488

Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:23pm

Why Wang Yi-mei is not playing in NT?She retired?Injury problems?Attitude problems?Low performances after 2012?
I dont think Gong or Zeng Chunlei are better players than she is

Wang Yi-mei's injury is much. (mainly about her waist)
Wang Yi-mei said after the 13th Chinese National Games in August, 2017, "If you don't see my name in the roster of Team Liaoning, I will be retired."
On the other hand, Wang Yi-mei's left-side spike is still much better than right-side spike.
And in the present Chinese NT, the three wing spikers must have good reception! must have!
My favourite roster of Chinese
male NT:
S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:25pm

Top Team Blocking Performances
18 – Brazil v Russia on September 5
17 – USA v Japan on September 9
17 – Russia v Japan on September 6
16 – Russia v USA on September 8
16 – Brazil v China on September 6

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490

Monday, September 11th 2017, 2:36pm

i don't know why wang left the team or was left out, but it's been many years. but both zeng and gong can receive serve, and WYM can't, so they are very useful. i think wang had some years as a destroyer but later, her hitting declined so maybe that's why.
I add a sentense. Lang Ping said or showed the mind, "In China, there are no opposite hitter that only focuses on spike." or "In China, there are no strong-power opposite hitter." (Chinese:中国没有强力接应) If Gong Xiang-yu or other OPs "touches" the level of Sheilla, she might not receive the ball in the match. In fact, in China, no one "is" the strongest Sheilla,Togut,Blakocevic,Slotijes or other European-style or American-style OPs.


I maybe have many Chinglish words to write. Sorry.
My favourite roster of Chinese
male NT:
S - Li Run-ming, Zhan Guo-jun
OP - Dai Qing-yao, Jiang Chuan
OH - Ji Dao-shuai, Xia Run-tao, Liu Li-bin, Zhang Chen
MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Chen Long-hai, Geng Xin
L - Ren Qi

female NT:
S - Ding Xia, Yao Di
OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Zhang Chang-ning
OH - Hui Ruo-qi, Zhu Ting, Liu Xiao-tong, Li Jing
MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Yan Ni, Xu Yun-li
L - Lin Li

My avatar is Jiang Chuan. I hope more persons love him.

491

Monday, September 11th 2017, 3:03pm

Why are we comparing Wang Yi Mei with opposite hitters? Hasn't she always been a non-receiving outside hitter in the national team?

I always had the impression that Wang Yi Mei's undoing was her low stamina. I remember she made too many errors in drawn out matches.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 3:48pm

Don't get Jordon Larson as one of the best outside hitters.
Well. she was by far USA's best player this tournament, and since USA had to have one name in the dream team...
Personally I'd have given it to Gabi.

(i) "Jordan Larson was by far USA's best player this tournament" ==> okay, can agree with that

(ii) "since USA had to have one name in the dream team" ==> LOL, did you mean that a medal winner team must have a representative in the individual awards winner or else??? Is it always the case?

(iii) objectively, either ZHANG Chang-ning or Gabriela Guimaraes (Gabi) deserves more that award!

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 3:56pm

Japan imitated the european style of attack after London Olympics with Nagaoka as a non-receiver and it didn't go well for them.
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Monday, September 11th 2017, 4:10pm

Why are we comparing Wang Yi Mei with opposite hitters? Hasn't she always been a non-receiving outside hitter in the national team?

I always had the impression that Wang Yi Mei's undoing was her low stamina. I remember she made too many errors in drawn out matches.

WANG Yi-mei was just a history as far as concerning the CHN NT. If there was no place for her in the NT as of four years ago after Lang Ping taking over the head coach position, how can one revive the closed case today, when she's no longer young either??? Just irrelevant at all. And don't think she's anyhow better than Zeng CL or Gong XY or Liu Xiao-tong nowadays.

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495

Monday, September 11th 2017, 4:40pm

What do you mean? I don't understand.

Why are we comparing Wang Yi Mei with opposite hitters? Hasn't she always been a non-receiving outside hitter in the national team?

I always had the impression that Wang Yi Mei's undoing was her low stamina. I remember she made too many errors in drawn out matches.

WANG Yi-mei was just a history as far as concerning the CHN NT. If there was no place for her in the NT as of four years ago after Lang Ping taking over the head coach position, how can one revive the closed case today, when she's no longer young either??? Just irrelevant at all. And don't think she's anyhow better than Zeng CL or Gong XY or Liu Xiao-tong nowadays.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 4:42pm

Sidenote: Ugly japs trying to cheat in the set 2 is just so typical of them :down:


having different opinions is good and all but this is just plain rudeness. :thumbdown:

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "aXeLbEn12" (Sep 11th 2017, 4:51pm)


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Monday, September 11th 2017, 7:40pm

What do you mean? I don't understand.

Why are we comparing Wang Yi Mei with opposite hitters? Hasn't she always been a non-receiving outside hitter in the national team?

I always had the impression that Wang Yi Mei's undoing was her low stamina. I remember she made too many errors in drawn out matches.

WANG Yi-mei was just a history as far as concerning the CHN NT. If there was no place for her in the NT as of four years ago after Lang Ping taking over the head coach position, how can one revive the closed case today, when she's no longer young either??? Just irrelevant at all. And don't think she's anyhow better than Zeng CL or Gong XY or Liu Xiao-tong nowadays.

Sorry, I should have quoted the original post re:Wang Yi-mei by @Gomez4 as below i/o yours.. your post was simply at the end of the loop when I clicked reply :P

Why Wang Yi-mei is not playing in NT?She retired?Injury problems?Attitude problems?Low performances after 2012?
I dont think Gong or Zeng Chunlei are better players than she is

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498

Monday, September 11th 2017, 8:12pm

samsara, not trying to re-litigate the 2012 olympics, but i don't think that was the low point of the CHN volleyball team. it's true that they were disappointed in losing in the QFs, but so did RUS, ITA and DOM. and SRB and TUR (being in a much tougher pool) didn't even advance to QFs.

IIRC, CHN finished 11th at some WCh (2002?) so london was not the worst result for CHN volleyball.

in london, lots of upsets happened. on paper, we'd expected in the semis: USA, BRA, and 2 of the 3: CHN, RUS, ITA. but who'd thought BRA would struggle in pool play, KOR would beat both BRA and ITA? and so BRA had to face RUS in the QFs (what a heart-stopping match that was), and nobody expected both JPN and KOR to win their semis. but such is sport. and even crazier results happened in rio, when all 4 teams in one pool made the semis.

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Monday, September 11th 2017, 8:43pm

samsara, not trying to re-litigate the 2012 olympics, but i don't think that was the low point of the CHN volleyball team. it's true that they were disappointed in losing in the QFs, but so did RUS, ITA and DOM. and SRB and TUR (being in a much tougher pool) didn't even advance to QFs.

IIRC, CHN finished 11th at some WCh (2002?) so london was not the worst result for CHN volleyball.

in london, lots of upsets happened. on paper, we'd expected in the semis: USA, BRA, and 2 of the 3: CHN, RUS, ITA. but who'd thought BRA would struggle in pool play, KOR would beat both BRA and ITA? and so BRA had to face RUS in the QFs (what a heart-stopping match that was), and nobody expected both JPN and KOR to win their semis. but such is sport. and even crazier results happened in rio, when all 4 teams in one pool made the semis.
Actually it is the lowest point in China women's volleyball history and it's part of the Wang Yimei era. China never lost a single set against Japan at the Olympics and were 5-0 in matches. 2010 WCH's 10th place finish was second lowest in history behind 1974's 14th place finish. Only redeeming finish was 3rd at 2011 WC. Also didn't do well at Asian Championship losing 2 times to Thailand and didn't qualify for the GCC.

500

Monday, September 11th 2017, 9:25pm

how's it losing to JPN in london the lowest point in CHN volleyball? that's crazy talk.

the 2012 team wasn't that bad. they were probably at the same level as 2008, they simply lost a tough, very close match in the QFs.

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