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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 7:30pm

congrats to Galatasaray team
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 7:33pm

Turkish teams are too strong IMHO for the others. Maybe just AGIL and Imoco can deal with them. I don't know why you guys saw Dinamo Moscow as favourite, since the this team plays a 2-teams league with around very waek teams. Turkish teams are like the italians 15/10 years ago.
Considering Turkish U23 volleyball team became world champion, yes next generation will also be strong.

However, when we watch local matches in Venus Sultanlar League, we see a lot of mistakes and it's very disappointing.


edit: Let's just not forget that Din moscow won all 6 games at last year's champions league groups.


Last year... they had Maja Poljak and Bethania De la Cruz. Their current roster is clearly a big downgrade so we see this kind of performance from Dinamo Moscow even in Russian Superleague.

I think Dinamo Moscow has enough money to buy great foreign players but I feel they are also probably concentrating on their native players so they went with this kind of team. Not that strong but given the level of russian superleague. Enough to win trophies with Goncharova as their main attacker. This obviously isn't going to cut it in the european competitions. :rolll:
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:00pm

This just proves how strong the big Turkish clubs and the whole Turkish league is in general imo. I will never call teams weak again. (Except Ilbank:D)


Let me give you an idea. Dinamo Moscow only has one true OH with scherban as starter. Isaeva/Stolyarova is an opposite who plays as an OH so we can imagine some discomfort with this team having to play with just two good passers.

As they say... Money talks and Turkey has that. Even a team like Nilufer probably has more budget than Dinamo Moscow atm and we could see they look really terrible compare with what they have last season.

Don't be ridiculous, even Goncharova's salary itself is probably more than Nilufer's budget :rolleyes:

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:19pm

If I'm not wrong. Someone already said that her salary is around 1M$. Ofc She would play abroad if this is not true. She is great player and every top team would like to have her in their team.

I'm not surprised with this win of Galatasaray. Dinamo Moscow is noting special to me. They have only 1 or 2 very good attacker.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:23pm

I just can't wait to watch Imoco- Agel P. But that match will not be interesting. And for me Match of the Week is Fenerbahce - Igor Novara.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:34pm

I just can't wait to watch Imoco- Agel P. But that match will not be interesting. And for me Match of the Week is Fenerbahce - Igor Novara.

why are you so eager for a match which will be concluded most probably 3-0 in favor of Conegliano ?
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:35pm

If I'm not wrong. Someone already said that her salary is around 1M$. Ofc She would play abroad if this is not true. She is great player and every top team would like to have her in their team.

I'm not surprised with this win of Galatasaray. Dinamo Moscow is noting special to me. They have only 1 or 2 very good attacker.


This seems not so likely. I do not think anybody said it. Pankov talked about salaries in an interview couple of years ago and he said Gamova and Kosheleva received the highest amount in the league while earning around 20 million rubles, equivalent of around 350 000 euro, and because of the very weak ruble in relation to western currencies the last three-four years or so, it is even more hard to believe. Surely she has a nice income, but I do not think salaries of this type exist at all in female russian volleyball. Simply, if this type of money would exist there it would be a location that attracted more players, but of course I cannot say for sure.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:36pm

I just can't wait to watch Imoco- Agel P. But that match will not be interesting. And for me Match of the Week is Fenerbahce - Igor Novara.

why are you so eager for a match which will be concluded most probably 3-0 in favor of Conegliano ?
And why I can't be ?

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:37pm

If I'm not wrong. Someone already said that her salary is around 1M$. Ofc She would play abroad if this is not true. She is great player and every top team would like to have her in their team.

I'm not surprised with this win of Galatasaray. Dinamo Moscow is noting special to me. They have only 1 or 2 very good attacker.


This seems not so likely. I do not think anybody said it. Pankov talked about salaries in an interview couple of years ago and he said Gamova and Kosheleva received the highest amount in the league while earning around 20 million rubles, equivalent of around 350 000 euro, and because of the very weak ruble in relation to western currencies the last three-four years or so, it is even more hard to believe. Surely she has a nice income, but I do not think salaries of this type exist at all in female russian volleyball. Simply, if this type of money would exist there it would be a location that attracted more players.
Lol Gamova was the most paided player in the World when She played for Dinamo Kazan. She maid over 1.300.000$.

http://www.volleywood.net/volleyball-fea…eyball-players/

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:42pm

I hope some big Turkish team gets Goncharova next season, she won't grow if she stays in Russia. Imagine if she were to play in Fener or Vakif, in my opinion she is the second best opposite after Boskovic.

she doesnt seem to be a good fit for Vakıf system..she could be good for Fener but they also have a good opposite as Rahimova
maybe she could come together with her compatriot in the same team GS, lol
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:43pm

If I'm not wrong. Someone already said that her salary is around 1M$. Ofc She would play abroad if this is not true. She is great player and every top team would like to have her in their team.

I'm not surprised with this win of Galatasaray. Dinamo Moscow is noting special to me. They have only 1 or 2 very good attacker.


This seems not so likely. I do not think anybody said it. Pankov talked about salaries in an interview couple of years ago and he said Gamova and Kosheleva received the highest amount in the league while earning around 20 million rubles, equivalent of around 350 000 euro, and because of the very weak ruble in relation to western currencies the last three-four years or so, it is even more hard to believe. Surely she has a nice income, but I do not think salaries of this type exist at all in female russian volleyball. Simply, if this type of money would exist there it would be a location that attracted more players.
Lol Gamova was the most paided player in the World when She played for Dinamo Kazan. She maid over 1.300.000$.

http://www.volleywood.net/volleyball-fea…eyball-players/


But I doubt these numbers. You know they are not allowed to make these numbers public so all we have are rumors, and to me they seem vastly inflated.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:43pm

I just can't wait to watch Imoco- Agel P. But that match will not be interesting. And for me Match of the Week is Fenerbahce - Igor Novara.

why are you so eager for a match which will be concluded most probably 3-0 in favor of Conegliano ?
And why I can't be ?

i expressed the reason in my post above
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 8:58pm

That is so petty.

I watch my favorite teams play against weak teams because they are my favorite teams. That shouldn't be a question that needs answers.

We don't want another "please stop praising Zhu" in this forum. Just let posters be and let them do as they wish. They're not exactly killing anyone. :white:
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 9:18pm

I thought the same while watching. But I do not think Natasha is in perfect shape mentally. She lives like a vampire, often goes to bed for sleep like 3-4 am in the morning, and at least from what I have heard, has no real friend in life at all, and very poor connection with her team mates from a friendship point of view, regardless what some pictures on social media might suggest. She had one "friend" she hanged out with a lot, Nazarova, they were out partying a lot together and lived a really "glamourous" life, but Nazarova left for Maccabi and they are not friends anymore. Regarding the trophy and reputation aspects, I do not think she cares about such things, for me she seems indifferent to most things in life and the notion she does not even care, like Gamova, Sokolova and Kosheleva before her, to take the trip abroad when the domestic league descends level-wise in relation to other leagues reflects this.
Wow interesting where did you get all this info about Natasha? I read most of her interviews and basically she is saying volleyball is her life and she spends training most of her day, i.e.no time to go out partying, watch a movie etc. And besides, in these forums, she isn't highly regarded either by her attitude or her ability as a player. But I agree she seems indifferent most times regardless if she scores a point or she gets blocked. I almost want to say I miss the fiery Goncha back in those days.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 9:33pm

Goncharova gets a big share of balls per match. Sometimes being too intense hurts yourself when you are tasked to carry a team. It's probably her way of controlling her tiredness. It doesn't mean she's indifferent. Maybe she's just tired and she just doesn't want to show it.
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 9:39pm

I thought the same while watching. But I do not think Natasha is in perfect shape mentally. She lives like a vampire, often goes to bed for sleep like 3-4 am in the morning, and at least from what I have heard, has no real friend in life at all, and very poor connection with her team mates from a friendship point of view, regardless what some pictures on social media might suggest. She had one "friend" she hanged out with a lot, Nazarova, they were out partying a lot together and lived a really "glamourous" life, but Nazarova left for Maccabi and they are not friends anymore. Regarding the trophy and reputation aspects, I do not think she cares about such things, for me she seems indifferent to most things in life and the notion she does not even care, like Gamova, Sokolova and Kosheleva before her, to take the trip abroad when the domestic league descends level-wise in relation to other leagues reflects this.
Wow interesting where did you get all this info about Natasha? I read most of her interviews and basically she is saying volleyball is her life and she spends training most of her day, i.e.no time to go out partying, watch a movie etc. And besides, in these forums, she isn't highly regarded either by her attitude or her ability as a player. But I agree she seems indifferent most times regardless if she scores a point or she gets blocked. I almost want to say I miss the fiery Goncha back in those days.


Yes, its probably true she has sacrifaced the "normal life" for a long time and I do not think she was partying very much while being so obsessed with her career, but I do not think this is the present mentality.

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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 9:42pm

actually i dont look forward to watching Vakıf-Lodz match but id like to watch Fenerbahçe-Novara match live
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Tuesday, January 9th 2018, 9:51pm

Does Dinamo Moscow even have any foreigners in their club? :rolll:

I think Terzic is the only one. :rolll:

Alena Handzel Yurieva. Bielorussian MB.


She acquired Russian citizenship and stopped playing on Belarusian NT a while ago.

Terzić said he wanted to sign a foreign OH but there were none available on the market when he took over the team.

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Wednesday, January 10th 2018, 2:16am

Volley​wood has never been a reliable source. :rolll: :rolll: :rolll:

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Wednesday, January 10th 2018, 8:03am

Without strong foreign players in dinamo moscow, I think Group D is only a tough group. However, I believe groupd b is the real group of death! Let us see who will survive in group b! :obey:

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