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1,561

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:13am

Yeah... that point was the turning moment of the set. That Zhu dig was insane and Rasic`s block on Fabris was just ..

That`s why you guys can keep saying Rasic level has dropped and Vakifbank will get ride of her next season as much as you guys want....

How many points Rasic scored this weekend? And how many points Zehra and Kubra scored? .....So yeah Zehra and Kubra will be the starting duo for Vakifbank next season

Boskovic and everyone else will love if they keep Rasic on the bench.....
Well we don't know what players Vakifbank will sign so it is just guessing at this point. You have to say Zhu will be a starter, Robinson may be necessary to take over from Gozde unless Tugba is ready as I said, but I agree with Canter that it will be too much pressure for her with little experience. That leaves one foreigner spot and if you remember Sloetjes made a huge contribution to Vakifbank winning the final and I don't think there are any Turkish OPPs that can do that job.

Could Meryem Boz do ?
meso mi ra se beno...

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:14am

One of the main keys of Vakifbank's success especially in the past 5 years is obviously having Naz, which is the best Turkish setter there is. Not wasting 1 spot for a foreigner setter is very helpful. Let's see if Cansu can keep up the good work. Is Naz OFFICIALY pregnant and out of the team? I've heard the same story other years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieDv8fnxsqo


Coach already said in the post-game interview he will lost both Naz and Gozde. Either already pregnant or trying to be pregnant, pretty sure Naz will not be at Vakifbank next year.

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:15am

Could Meryem Boz do ?
She could maybe do a decent job but she would be a big downgrade from Sloetjes.

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:18am

One of the main keys of Vakifbank's success especially in the past 5 years is obviously having Naz, which is the best Turkish setter there is. Not wasting 1 spot for a foreigner setter is very helpful. Let's see if Cansu can keep up the good work. Is Naz OFFICIALY pregnant and out of the team? I've heard the same story other years...

i think nothing official..lets wait and see...the closest tournament for clubs must be womens world club championship ?
meso mi ra se beno...

1,565

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:18am

I just realized something.... depending on how far Naz is in her pregnancy ...she could even be back next season for the playoffs and CL Finals...

Fabiola had a baby and she was back in the gym like a 1 week later... Dani Lins and Brait same thing.... they had a baby and they are already playing.

1,566

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:19am

why are you guy so sure zhu will extend contract with VB? she is a very welcomed addition for any team desiring the top of the podium

1,567

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:19am

Can Neriman receive very well? Don't think Meliha is an viable option, coach Motta is smart enough to keep her. Maybe they can sign a local OP to replace Lonnecke, don't know who they have, most likely a downgrade as well.

The question is who is better: Zhu+Robinson+Zehra+Kubra vs. Zhu+Tugba+Rasic+Zehra/Kubra, Hard to say... :wall:
I think Neriman is the only one that can replace Godze....and maybe Meliha.

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:24am

why are you guy so sure zhu will extend contract with VB? she is a very welcomed addition for any team desiring the top of the podium
I think Zhu will stay in Europe for at least one more year, and if she stays in EU next year, Vakifbank will be the place. I definitely can see her go back to China for 2019-2020 season and be ready for the 2020 Olympics. EU volleyball is too long and it can really wear you out.

1,569

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:25am

One of the main keys of Vakifbank's success especially in the past 5 years is obviously having Naz, which is the best Turkish setter there is. Not wasting 1 spot for a foreigner setter is very helpful. Let's see if Cansu can keep up the good work. Is Naz OFFICIALY pregnant and out of the team? I've heard the same story other years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieDv8fnxsqo


Coach already said in the post-game interview he will lost both Naz and Gozde. Either already pregnant or trying to be pregnant, pretty sure Naz will not be at Vakifbank next year.

this also will be a big blow for Vakıf like Gözde's absence...Vakıf simply lost its main advantage in TL over the other top clubs from Istanbul
meso mi ra se beno...

1,570

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:26am

I wonder what you have to do to be a true legendary player. Winning 4 CLs and several national championships, having some continental medals with your NT and a few individual awards, participating on the Olympic games, being an amazing all-around OH with balanced receiving/attacking skills, being a true leader in the court... all of this isn't enough?!

I acknowledge Kirdar's passion and amazing skills. I will miss her for sure. She was one of the best OHs in the world in the past decades IMO. A true player, a true fighter, who never hides from the game. She was surely more interesting to watch in comparison to those "only-spiking" or "only-receiving" OHs who are praised so much sometimes. For me, top 5 OHs I've seen play in the past 15 years were Kirdar, Sokolova, Piccinini, Jaqueline and Larson, in no particular order.
Get ready for the incoming Zhu fans :sos:

Personally I think KYK has to be up there with any of them. OK she is not quite an all-rounder like those you've listed but her receiving skills are pretty solid and her attacking is incredible. Logan Tom as well.
don't pretend be self-righteous and innocent, you were the initiator of the feud, can't help yourself, right? should see a shrink

1,571

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:28am

why are you guy so sure zhu will extend contract with VB? she is a very welcomed addition for any team desiring the top of the podium

why should she change her team?
she should have been either unhappy with her team or some other club would offer her more to leave Vakıf
meso mi ra se beno...

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:31am

don't pretend be self-righteous and innocent, you were the initiator of the feud, can't help yourself, right? should see a shrink
:lol:
I made a prediction and it came true. You think that guy only started his rampage because of my comment? I’ve seen similar things happen way too often.

1,573

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:43am

Neriman is not good as Godze but she`s the 2nd best Turkish player...is not like they have any other options.

I`m surprised Robinson is getting so much praise here... The reason that Godze started in CL is simply because Robinson was too weak. Guidetti knew Godze was retiring and he would already do a transition and Robinson being her replacement. Or do you guys really think Robinson signed with Vakifbank to be a full time bench player in Turkish and CL?? of course not.... all the foreigners sign because they know they will at least be playing CL.

Robinson started in a lot of Turkish League games but she was too weak...her reception was not even good ...but some fans blamed the ball....and I won`t even talk about her attack which were bad just as Malesevic....go check the stats and you can see I`m not lying.

anyone that actually watched Turkish Season were not surprised at all when Zhu went down and Conegliano took over....this happened many times in the Turkish League... Robinson is simply a 2nd libero ( and again her reception is not even that great as everyone here keeps saying) that can`t score and Sloetjes was having some really bad games...so Guidetti had to bring Godze or Zhu in every game that they did not start to save the day...

and if Vitra signs Kim....Vakifbank will need a strong OH that can score because only Sloetjes and Zhu won`t be enough....at least if they had Naz that would not be so bad.

Zehra is getting all the praise..... based on what?? 4 points that she scored in the final when she replaced Kubra....and based on that Vakifbank does not need Rasic anymore....oh well




Can Neriman receive very well? Don't think Meliha is an viable option, coach Motta is smart enough to keep her. Maybe they can sign a local OP to replace Lonnecke, don't know who they have, most likely a downgrade as well.

The question is who is better: Zhu+Robinson+Zehra+Kubra vs. Zhu+Tugba+Rasic+Zehra/Kubra, Hard to say... :wall:
I think Neriman is the only one that can replace Godze....and maybe Meliha.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "pope" (May 7th 2018, 3:49am)


1,574

Monday, May 7th 2018, 3:46am

Quoted from "Rip"



don't pretend be self-righteous and innocent, you were the initiator of the feud, can't help yourself, right? should see a shrink

I made a prediction and it came true. You think that guy only started his rampage because of my comment? I’ve seen similar things happen way too often.
If you know "so well" the "outcome", then why you and your pathetic friend (Sydney) had made such useless and provocative comments? and why you both keep refusing to answer a very simple and specific question to dissipate any possible "misunderstanding"?

1,575

Monday, May 7th 2018, 4:10am

Neriman is not good as Godze but she`s the 2nd best Turkish player...is not like they have any other options.

I`m surprised Robinson is getting so much praise here... The reason that Godze started in CL is simply because Robinson was too weak. Guidetti knew Godze was retiring and he would already do a transition and Robinson being her replacement. Or do you guys really think Robinson signed with Vakifbank to be a full time bench player in Turkish and CL?? of course not.... all the foreigners sign because they know they will at least be playing CL.

Robinson started in a lot of Turkish League games but she was too weak...her reception was not even good ...but some fans blamed the ball....and I won`t even talk about her attack which were bad just as Malesevic....go check the stats and you can see I`m not lying.

anyone that actually watched Turkish Season were not surprised at all when Zhu went down and Conegliano took over....this happened many times in the Turkish League... Robinson is simply a 2nd libero ( and again her reception is not even that great as everyone here keeps saying) that can`t score and Sloetjes was having some really bad games...so Guidetti had to bring Godze or Zhu in every game that they did not start to save the day...

and if Vitra signs Kim....Vakifbank will need a strong OH that can score because only Sloetjes and Zhu won`t be enough....at least if they had Naz that would not be so bad.

Zehra is getting all the praise..... based on what?? 4 points that she scored in the final when she replaced Kubra....and based on that Vakifbank does not need Rasic anymore....oh well
Don't know how you got that expression for Robinson, you can check this year's Turkey League season stats below. Robinson was better than Gozde in both reception and attack this year. I think they are comparable at least.

http://tvf-web.dataproject.com/Statistics.aspx?ID=25&PID=58

1,576

Monday, May 7th 2018, 4:20am

I`m not comparing them... and if you are looking in the overall stats, well that is not what I`m talking about. I`m talking about performance in each game... go ahead and check the stats for each game and you will get a different picture based on these overall stats... Zhu is ranked at 8th... Yeah sureeee....

Neriman is not good as Godze but she`s the 2nd best Turkish player...is not like they have any other options.

I`m surprised Robinson is getting so much praise here... The reason that Godze started in CL is simply because Robinson was too weak. Guidetti knew Godze was retiring and he would already do a transition and Robinson being her replacement. Or do you guys really think Robinson signed with Vakifbank to be a full time bench player in Turkish and CL?? of course not.... all the foreigners sign because they know they will at least be playing CL.

Robinson started in a lot of Turkish League games but she was too weak...her reception was not even good ...but some fans blamed the ball....and I won`t even talk about her attack which were bad just as Malesevic....go check the stats and you can see I`m not lying.

anyone that actually watched Turkish Season were not surprised at all when Zhu went down and Conegliano took over....this happened many times in the Turkish League... Robinson is simply a 2nd libero ( and again her reception is not even that great as everyone here keeps saying) that can`t score and Sloetjes was having some really bad games...so Guidetti had to bring Godze or Zhu in every game that they did not start to save the day...

and if Vitra signs Kim....Vakifbank will need a strong OH that can score because only Sloetjes and Zhu won`t be enough....at least if they had Naz that would not be so bad.

Zehra is getting all the praise..... based on what?? 4 points that she scored in the final when she replaced Kubra....and based on that Vakifbank does not need Rasic anymore....oh well
Don't know how you got that expression for Robinson, you can check this year's Turkey League season stats below. Robinson was better than Gozde in both reception and attack this year. I think they are comparable at least.

http://tvf-web.dataproject.com/Statistics.aspx?ID=25&PID=58

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "pope" (May 7th 2018, 4:34am)


1,577

Monday, May 7th 2018, 4:34am

Game 1 of the season againt Halkbank Robinson started - 7 points with only 35% in attack ( not good)

game 2 - 1 point (11% in attack) not good

against Ilkbank - 10 points but with only 22% in attack....

She had some good games....but overall...she was not great.... She did not sign with Vakifbank to be on the bench both in CL and Turkish....but Guidetti must play with the roster that will win games....He tried starting Robinson against Moscow and they lost the first set for example. Look what happened in the game against Conegliano...

And mostly important her reception was not good especially early in the season....and some fans were saying it was the different ball.

1,578

Monday, May 7th 2018, 4:36am

Even though Robinson and Gozde are both OH players, they are fundamentally very different animals and they both play very different roles. For this, I think it's pointless to compare both of them. The most important thing for now is to find someone to fill the leadership vacuum left by Gozde. If Rasic accepts to stay in Vakif for another two years. I think she's the best candidate to be the new Vakif captain. As for Gozde's replacement, the candidate needs to be a local NT player or a future NT player.

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1,579

Monday, May 7th 2018, 5:22am

I can't believe people can argue over a pointless topic for so many pages.

However, don't just blame the "incoming Zhu fans", though. Other contributors (who are more experienced on this forum and should have known better about avoiding meaningless trash) are equally unpleasant to say the least.

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Monday, May 7th 2018, 6:05am

It is just a commercial game. Take it easy guys. Zhuting finished her job perfect and gets paid! Raising the salaray to 2 million euro will be more meaningful ! That is even better! :wavy:

World volleyball championship is coming~~~ :teach: zhuting vs boscovic again! Great battle. I am exiciting to see zhuting vs milena (two great captain) in the future!

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