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Sidney

Master

Posts: 2,351

Favourite Team: Brazil NT, USA NT, Ned NT, Rexona, Minas, Fenerbahce, Pomi, Bergamo

Favourite Players: Mihajlovic, Natália, Stevanovic, Piccinini, Ferretti, Larson, Gozde, Fabi, Lloyd.

Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil

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2,501

Monday, April 23rd 2018, 4:34pm

Only difference is that Sheila and Gamova actually hated each other (as far as I know)
Where did you get that from?

2,502

Monday, April 23rd 2018, 5:00pm

everyone knows it... Brazilians and Russias always hated each other... And Gamova even gave a interview one time for Globo Esporte saying she does not hate them because it is a strong word to say, but she does like them at all..

Of course she would not use the word "hate" on camera...but yeah...

This has never been a secret. I`m surprised you did not know... ( I will look on youtube for the interview with Gamova and I will post if I can find).

China and Serbia are rivals right now...but not as bad as Brazil and Russia were.
Only difference is that Sheila and Gamova actually hated each other (as far as I know)
Where did you get that from?

Janko

Trainee

  • "Janko" is male

Posts: 166

Favourite Team: Serbia NT (F/M), Netherlands NT (F), Dominican Republic NT (F), Turkey NT (F), Eczacıbaşı, VakifBank

Favourite Players: Tijana Boskovic, Stefana Veljkovic, Jovana Brakocevic, Maja Ognjenovic, Milena Rasic, Katarina Lazovic, Kim Yeon-koung, Robin de Kruijf, Celeste Plak, Hande Baladin, Kübra Akman , Zehra Güneş, Cristina Chirichella, Brenda Castillo, Brayelin Martínez, Irina Fetisova

Location: Serbia

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2,503

Monday, April 23rd 2018, 6:02pm

Zhu vs Boskovic is just like Sheila vs Gamova.... Only difference is that Sheila and Gamova actually hated each other (as far as I know). Boskovic and Zhu certainly don`t have each other, but there`s a rivalry there and you can tell by Boskovic`s reaction when Zhu got blocked and spiked it out....

Next season CL will be great - Zhu-Boskovic-Egonu-Haak-Fabris
Yeah, Boskovic and Zhu I think respect each other but they always love to beat the other one which is only natural when they are the key players vs each other in so many important matches.

Eczacibasi in general have shown a lot more fire and fight than they did last season against Vakifbank. Last season it was like they didn't know what to do on the court but under Motta they have more confidence and determination and play more like a team.
Last year's Eczacibasi debacle happened due to a number of factors which (partly unlikely, and partly due to an inherently unbalanced roster make-up) happened at the same time:

1)Coach does not recognises who his best player is, and plays her as a substitute

2)The first year of a sky-dive of Kosheleva's form (who is signed as a star-player), where her attack can no longer compensate for her lack of a defence, whereupon she becomes a net-negative player

3)A huge (and aging) domestic star is playing in the same position as the best player of the team, guaranteeing that the said best player will spend most of the season on the bench, due to a 3 foreigners rule

4)Probably the worst professional season of Jordan Larson happened that year (she plays much better this season, even though she is a year older).

Sisko95

Professional

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Posts: 1,016

Favourite Players: Ognjenovic, Brakocevic, Blagojevic, Boskovic, Skowronska, Werblinska, Eda, Dani Lins, Fabiana, Gamze, Neslihan, Babeshina, Sawicka, Tomkom, Castillo, Kim, Sloetjes

Location: Scotland

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2,504

Monday, April 23rd 2018, 6:34pm

Last year's Eczacibasi debacle happened due to a number of factors which (partly unlikely, and partly due to an inherently unbalanced roster make-up) happened at the same time:

1)Coach does not recognises who his best player is, and plays her as a substitute

2)The first year of a sky-dive of Kosheleva's form (who is signed as a star-player), where her attack can no longer compensate for her lack of a defence, whereupon she becomes a net-negative player

3)A huge (and aging) domestic star is playing in the same position as the best player of the team, guaranteeing that the said best player will spend most of the season on the bench, due to a 3 foreigners rule

4)Probably the worst professional season of Jordan Larson happened that year (she plays much better this season, even though she is a year older).
I mostly agree with this but to be fair to Barbolini, he did start Boskovic sometimes and even then the team lost. They didn't have a decent backup for Larson, Ognjenovic or Adams but they did have a solid backup for Boskovic, so I can see why he decided to leave her out but I agree it was a bad decision. But let's remember that if it wasn't for a terrible choke vs Fenerbahce they would probably have won the Turkish League even with Boskovic on the bench.


This year the roster is much more balanced and Motta has always known what his best team is, which is something Barbolini was still trying to figure out at the end of the season. I think Motta has improved the confidence of the players in themselves and in each other and this is why they play much better.

2,505

Monday, April 23rd 2018, 9:03pm

the fourth match is tomorrow at 19:00

Naz should play better.i hadnt paid attention to Naz's sets as watching it live in the gym but i saw in the replay that Naz played a poor game.She should play much better.
lets see if Hande will be starter or Motta will start with Meliha.Meliha was not that bad in first match and was good in second match and not good in third match
also i wonder Ting will pass or not
meso mi ra se beno...

Gomez4

Intermediate

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Posts: 200

Favourite Team: PAOK

Favourite Players: Ernardo Gomez,Rolando Cepeda,Alexander Shafranovich,Zhu Ting

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2,506

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 3:42pm

My feeling is that Guidetti will make some changes...
"Zhu Ting arrives" :super:

2,507

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 5:06pm

Guidetti will use his last chance; Ebrar Karakurt is in the roster today.
A 'can't miss' match with now includes Ebrar :dance6:
Today he will have a player who can show her reactions worse than Ognjenovic :box:

2,508

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 5:54pm

The 2 best teams in the world playing a Final game and the arena is half empty. :down:

beri

Professional

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Posts: 1,697

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM & MIREYA LUIS

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

Occupation: zhu ting hating fanatic *trollface*

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2,509

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:00pm

Zehra starter today instead of Kubra finally

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Favourite Team: Foppapedretti Bergamo Marmi Lanza Verona

Favourite Players: Lo Bianco Piccinini Cardullo Ortolani

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2,510

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:02pm

And also Cansu Ozbay is starting. Motta preferred Hande!

And we start with a check :lol:

Sisko95

Professional

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Posts: 1,016

Favourite Players: Ognjenovic, Brakocevic, Blagojevic, Boskovic, Skowronska, Werblinska, Eda, Dani Lins, Fabiana, Gamze, Neslihan, Babeshina, Sawicka, Tomkom, Castillo, Kim, Sloetjes

Location: Scotland

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2,511

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:12pm

So far Vakif's defence has been great meanwhile Eczaci's passing has been bad.

beri

Professional

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Posts: 1,697

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM & MIREYA LUIS

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

Occupation: zhu ting hating fanatic *trollface*

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2,512

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:23pm

Sloetjes:World Class :super:

2,513

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:24pm

cansu ozbay world class~~~ :super: Much stable than naz~~

Sisko95

Professional

  • "Sisko95" is male

Posts: 1,016

Favourite Players: Ognjenovic, Brakocevic, Blagojevic, Boskovic, Skowronska, Werblinska, Eda, Dani Lins, Fabiana, Gamze, Neslihan, Babeshina, Sawicka, Tomkom, Castillo, Kim, Sloetjes

Location: Scotland

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2,514

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:25pm

I know Hande played well in the last match, but I don't think she should start the 2nd set. Her passing is too bad and Meliha has earned another chance after being really good all season.

inc0gnito

Intermediate

Posts: 520

Favourite Team: Russian NT, Serbia NT

Favourite Players: W: Nataliya Goncharova, Irina Fetisova, Tatiana Kosheleva, Evgeniya Startseva, Stefana Veljkovic, Maja Ognejovic, Saori Kimura, Thaisa Menesez M: Maxim Mikhaylov

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2,515

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:25pm

Rasic has the best block in the world right now, even if her attack is not like what it used to be

2,516

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:25pm

The defining factor is Hande's reception :rolleyes:

beri

Professional

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Posts: 1,697

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM & MIREYA LUIS

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

Occupation: zhu ting hating fanatic *trollface*

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2,517

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:26pm

Cansu Özbay is underrated I agree. I can totally imagine her lead Turkish NT this summer as 1st setter. She is very talented naturally.

2,518

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:32pm

Cansu is giving Sloetjes enough balls so she can get into rhythm and Zhu isn't overused..

Posts: 3,190

Favourite Team: Foppapedretti Bergamo Marmi Lanza Verona

Favourite Players: Lo Bianco Piccinini Cardullo Ortolani

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2,519

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:34pm

Too many errors from both teams in this second set..

Sisko95

Professional

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Posts: 1,016

Favourite Players: Ognjenovic, Brakocevic, Blagojevic, Boskovic, Skowronska, Werblinska, Eda, Dani Lins, Fabiana, Gamze, Neslihan, Babeshina, Sawicka, Tomkom, Castillo, Kim, Sloetjes

Location: Scotland

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2,520

Tuesday, April 24th 2018, 6:36pm

I'll be honest and say Eczacibasi are playing terrible volleyball so far. Nothing like the last 2 matches.

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