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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:33pm

btw..must Xu Yunli (famous Chinese MB) have been in Burhan Felek Gym in the last match ?
i saw somebody in the gym but i couldnt be sure if she was her or not
yes,she is Xu yunli.she arrived in turkey before vakif played the third match. and after wining,she also chat with Gui. zhu is so lucky to have a such good friend to help her when zhu faces difficulties.Jenny langping also watched these matches and gave some advice to zhu after 3 and 4th.anyway zhu can adjust herself when she faces hard problems quickly.i hope boskovic too.theyy are in the same time.in 2013 when turkey vs chn,neslihan said she is so lucky she and zhu are not in the same time.but for boskovic,she is . and i have to say motta is a good coach to improve players and yuo cans see boskovic improve a lot this season.but for our fans,we know still not enough when bos faces so high block of 516(zhu is no.5 ,rasic is no .16).vakifbank vs ecza is just like team china vs serbia in Tokyo time. i hope we can enjoy good matches. also i think its a good thing for coaches to train young players.they can help whole team to go on a long way.

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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:34pm

I don't think you can really say she was much worse in game 3 than in game 4.

Game 3 - 37% on attack with 19 kills, 6 errors and blocked 8 times = +5
2 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 0%, 4 errors

Game 4 - 36% on attack with 8 kills, 3 errors and blocked once = +4
3 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 20%, 0 errors

Yeah, her passing was better in game 4, but you know what else was better? Her other team-mates. And what was worse? Eczacibasi's performance.

The point is that Zhu is unquestionably brilliant, but the reason Vakifbank won game 4 and lost game 3 was mainly due to the other players on the court.

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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:42pm

btw..must Xu Yunli (famous Chinese MB) have been in Burhan Felek Gym in the last match ?
i saw somebody in the gym but i couldnt be sure if she was her or not
yes,she is Xu yunli.she arrived in turkey before vakif played the third match. and after wining,she also chat with Gui. zhu is so lucky to have a such good friend to help her when zhu faces difficulties.Jenny langping also watched these matches and gave some advice to zhu after 3 and 4th.anyway zhu can adjust herself when she faces hard problems quickly.i hope boskovic too.theyy are in the same time.in 2013 when turkey vs chn,neslihan said she is so lucky she and zhu are not in the same time.but for boskovic,she is . and i have to say motta is a good coach to improve players and yuo cans see boskovic improve a lot this season.but for our fans,we know still not enough when bos faces so high block of 516(zhu is no.5 ,rasic is no .16).vakifbank vs ecza is just like team china vs serbia in Tokyo time. i hope we can enjoy good matches. also i think its a good thing for coaches to train young players.they can help whole team to go on a long way.

really? i diddnt know Jenny LangPing was in the gym..
agree with you..Ting Zhu was more succesful in adjusting/preparing herself to the other games than Boşkoviç in these final series
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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:51pm

btw..must Xu Yunli (famous Chinese MB) have been in Burhan Felek Gym in the last match ?
i saw somebody in the gym but i couldnt be sure if she was her or not
yes,she is Xu yunli.she arrived in turkey before vakif played the third match. and after wining,she also chat with Gui. zhu is so lucky to have a such good friend to help her when zhu faces difficulties.Jenny langping also watched these matches and gave some advice to zhu after 3 and 4th.anyway zhu can adjust herself when she faces hard problems quickly.i hope boskovic too.theyy are in the same time.in 2013 when turkey vs chn,neslihan said she is so lucky she and zhu are not in the same time.but for boskovic,she is . and i have to say motta is a good coach to improve players and yuo cans see boskovic improve a lot this season.but for our fans,we know still not enough when bos faces so high block of 516(zhu is no.5 ,rasic is no .16).vakifbank vs ecza is just like team china vs serbia in Tokyo time. i hope we can enjoy good matches. also i think its a good thing for coaches to train young players.they can help whole team to go on a long way.

really? i diddnt know Jenny LangPing was in the gym..
agree with you..Ting Zhu was more succesful in adjusting/preparing herself to the other games than Boşkoviç in these final series



I don't think Lang Ping was at the game, she is in China training the new national team roster for next months VNL. China has a variety of young potential players that needs focus and developing from Lang Ping.

In any kind of sports, I noticed great players are those that can adjust and remain mentally calm during times of pressure.

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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:53pm

I don't think you can really say she was much worse in game 3 than in game 4.

Game 3 - 37% on attack with 19 kills, 6 errors and blocked 8 times = +5
2 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 0%, 4 errors

Game 4 - 36% on attack with 8 kills, 3 errors and blocked once = +4
3 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 20%, 0 errors

Yeah, her passing was better in game 4, but you know what else was better? Her other team-mates. And what was worse? Eczacibasi's performance.

The point is that Zhu is unquestionably brilliant, but the reason Vakifbank won game 4 and lost game 3 was mainly due to the other players on the court.


She made a lot of mistakes in Game 3. What is left there to say? Women's volleyball is not all about making errors to score but about minimizing it. They should've won that if not for her disastrous game. :white:

Even Zhu was just as better in blocking than the middle blockers in Game 4 and she's not even at the central point to catch the balls. She's just a wing blocker. That set the tone you know because who is the girl she is probably blocking? Yes... Boskovic. :super:
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Friday, April 27th 2018, 10:57pm

Naz didn't look happy from the celebration photos.

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Friday, April 27th 2018, 11:03pm

I don't think you can really say she was much worse in game 3 than in game 4.

Game 3 - 37% on attack with 19 kills, 6 errors and blocked 8 times = +5
2 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 0%, 4 errors

Game 4 - 36% on attack with 8 kills, 3 errors and blocked once = +4
3 blocks, 2 aces
Perfect reception 20%, 0 errors

Yeah, her passing was better in game 4, but you know what else was better? Her other team-mates. And what was worse? Eczacibasi's performance.

The point is that Zhu is unquestionably brilliant, but the reason Vakifbank won game 4 and lost game 3 was mainly due to the other players on the court.


She made a lot of mistakes in Game 3. What is left there to say? Women's volleyball is not all about making errors to score but about minimizing it. They should've won that if not for her disastrous game. :white:

Even Zhu was just as better in blocking than the middle blockers in Game 4 and she's not even at the central point to catch the balls. She's just a wing blocker. That set the tone you know because who is the girl she is probably blocking? Yes... Boskovic. :super:
Well I think you are being a bit dramatic calling it a disastrous game while also denying she underperformed in game 4.

Anyway, I agree there is nothing left to say. Tbh I don't remember how this started - I agreed with what you said about Gozde anyway!

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Friday, April 27th 2018, 11:09pm

guys the league is over and Vakıf won it..anyway :wavy: :D
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Friday, April 27th 2018, 11:18pm

btw..must Xu Yunli (famous Chinese MB) have been in Burhan Felek Gym in the last match ?
i saw somebody in the gym but i couldnt be sure if she was her or not
yes,she is Xu yunli.she arrived in turkey before vakif played the third match. and after wining,she also chat with Gui. zhu is so lucky to have a such good friend to help her when zhu faces difficulties.Jenny langping also watched these matches and gave some advice to zhu after 3 and 4th.anyway zhu can adjust herself when she faces hard problems quickly.i hope boskovic too.theyy are in the same time.in 2013 when turkey vs chn,neslihan said she is so lucky she and zhu are not in the same time.but for boskovic,she is . and i have to say motta is a good coach to improve players and yuo cans see boskovic improve a lot this season.but for our fans,we know still not enough when bos faces so high block of 516(zhu is no.5 ,rasic is no .16).vakifbank vs ecza is just like team china vs serbia in Tokyo time. i hope we can enjoy good matches. also i think its a good thing for coaches to train young players.they can help whole team to go on a long way.

really? i diddnt know Jenny LangPing was in the gym..
agree with you..Ting Zhu was more succesful in adjusting/preparing herself to the other games than Boşkoviç in these final series



I don't think Lang Ping was at the game, she is in China training the new national team roster for next months VNL. China has a variety of young potential players that needs focus and developing from Lang Ping.

In any kind of sports, I noticed great players are those that can adjust and remain mentally calm during times of pressure.


I think it's because Boskovic is a left handed player. I always say this... It's a blessing and a curse.

She's situated mostly on the right side of the court so when the setter gives a ball, she always have to do a back set and the sets can sometimes be uglier than what was intended to be. Most right handed players would be accustomed to the set going far out and even shorter but as a left handed hitter it could be trickier if the set is not what she preferred.

Double that she's not accustomed to receive and there's only a few OH in the women's volleyball who can attack and defend. Nearly everyone are spexialist. An attack specialist or defensive specialist.

And even if she was a left side hitter. It's not her specialty to attack on that side. It's one of the reasons why I feel Li Yingying can surpass her because she plays left side even when she is a left handed spiker. She can defend everything from the opposite to the slider. Unfortunately for Boskovic she's at the opposite while Zhu Ting can be a good LH1, she's usually the LH2( a position where she can only attack at 4 which is actually her best position). She's a specialist to this position while Boskovic has to learn to attack in zones 4 and 2. Zhu Ting also has the advantage of the setter seeing her place than in the opposite so when it comes to out of system hitting. Zhu will have a better ball at 4 than Boskovic will ever have at 2 because she will rely on the setter's ability for precise sets when the reception is bad.

Another advantage for Zhu Ting. She can have the setter blocking her all the time. Her height is 196-198 cm. Most setters are between 172-183 cm. This is not even funny. The mismatch is too sweet not to take advantage. :wavy:

Boskovic can have a block of ranging from 183cm to 198cm. Suxh is the life of an oppsosite. :white:
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Friday, April 27th 2018, 11:31pm

sorry but why setters have to set to the opposites without seeing them ? (reverse set/setting)
cannt they change their direction/position setting a ball to Opposite at times? :P
maybe they can set better to sliders that way ?
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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 1:05am

btw..must Xu Yunli (famous Chinese MB) have been in Burhan Felek Gym in the last match ?
i saw somebody in the gym but i couldnt be sure if she was her or not
yes,she is Xu yunli.she arrived in turkey before vakif played the third match. and after wining,she also chat with Gui. zhu is so lucky to have a such good friend to help her when zhu faces difficulties.Jenny langping also watched these matches and gave some advice to zhu after 3 and 4th.anyway zhu can adjust herself when she faces hard problems quickly.i hope boskovic too.theyy are in the same time.in 2013 when turkey vs chn,neslihan said she is so lucky she and zhu are not in the same time.but for boskovic,she is . and i have to say motta is a good coach to improve players and yuo cans see boskovic improve a lot this season.but for our fans,we know still not enough when bos faces so high block of 516(zhu is no.5 ,rasic is no .16).vakifbank vs ecza is just like team china vs serbia in Tokyo time. i hope we can enjoy good matches. also i think its a good thing for coaches to train young players.they can help whole team to go on a long way.

really? i diddnt know Jenny LangPing was in the gym..
agree with you..Ting Zhu was more succesful in adjusting/preparing herself to the other games than Boşkoviç in these final series
haha,langping didnt sit in the gym,she watch live in china and send messages to zhu :dance6:. we buy live rights of all vakif matches .but time diffenrence is a big problem

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 1:19am

lets not forget old teams and players
i came across a CL playoff 6 match btw Vakıf and Fener
Vakıf : Naz-Sheila,Costagrande-Vasileva,Raşiç-Robin,Gizem
Fener : Lo Bianco-Montano,Bosetti-KYK,Eda-Bauer,Merve (Hildebrand on the bench)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2nYF_3Zbo
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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 1:40am

lets not forget old teams and players
i came across a CL playoff 6 match btw Vakıf and Fener
Vakıf : Naz-Sheila,Costagrande-Vasileva,Raşiç-Robin,Gizem
Fener : Lo Bianco-Montano,Bosetti-KYK,Eda-Bauer,Merve (Hildebrand on the bench)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2nYF_3Zbo
sometimes a team has many world class level players but they cant win. whatever how good a team on the paper,they also need to cooperate.It seems turkey league now has Zhuting and Boskovic,but i dont know if other good players will play in TL.I see many rumors yesterday,and dont know which is true.

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 5:25am

lets not forget old teams and players
i came across a CL playoff 6 match btw Vakıf and Fener
Vakıf : Naz-Sheila,Costagrande-Vasileva,Raşiç-Robin,Gizem
Fener : Lo Bianco-Montano,Bosetti-KYK,Eda-Bauer,Merve (Hildebrand on the bench)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq2nYF_3Zbo


every year, new foreign players come and go. this bring new energy to vakifbank! I hope more chinese players can play in vakifbank in the future! I think Yuan xinyue is ready to play in vakifbank. We will see her performance in this year world volleyball championship! :teach:

I have to say guddetti have talent to train and find the top players. he trained slotejes to top level, transfered milena from cannes to vakifbank. He is also the one contacted zhuting first in 2013! Moreover, he trains lots of good turkey players! :flower:

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 9:48am

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 10:40am

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 11:06pm

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Saturday, April 28th 2018, 11:08pm

WorldOfVolley reports two acknowledgements, which are no surprise anymore: Gözde Sonsirma-Kirdar ceases her (club) career and Naz Aydemir is or will shortly be pregnant, so VakifBank has to play next season without both. Let us see, how Guidetti deals with situation (there is no lack of money in Istanbul we know).

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Sunday, April 29th 2018, 5:57am

WorldOfVolley reports two acknowledgements, which are no surprise anymore: Gözde Sonsirma-Kirdar ceases her (club) career and Naz Aydemir is or will shortly be pregnant, so VakifBank has to play next season without both. Let us see, how Guidetti deals with situation (there is no lack of money in Istanbul we know).
I think it is best time to build next golden 10 years! Vakifbank has already got too many trophies these years. They have lots of talents in the youth and B team. It is time to move on. It is good for turkey volleyball! After gozde and naz leave, vakifbank will have extra budget to buy better foreign players! :win:

btw: Galatasaray and fenerbache are also rebuilding the team. Ecz vitra has also changed its setter. So i think it is the best time to do the upgrading! :win:

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