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Quoted from "beri"

I agree with @Canter there is more then 1 strong team in Turkey... She could even go to foreign countries like Italy and try something completely new. Imo most Italian local setters are not so good either so I believe she could be really a game changer there. She could even go to Brazil or Russia f.e. but I don't see that happen. She has enough options to go to from Turkey to foreign countries but the thing is is she willing to try. I would do it if I was her, she has played so many years with VB and achieved so much. Time to start a new phase in her carreer if you ask me. It could change her from one of the best atm to world-class/the best. It is not like top Italian teams or Fener o4 Vitra don't pay btw

Quoted from "serdar"

Quoted from "beri"

Trying to move on:

I do think it would be best for Naz to leave VakifBank just because I feel like VB won't help her grow as a player anymore or challenge her as a setter. Personally I believe she could become even better playing for another club now however I can see VB struggling big time if she decided to leave indeed.

I don't think so. She is working with one of the best trainer in the world. Playing in the same club for a long time doesn't make any harm. Just have a look to Gözde's development, she improved soo much under guidance of Guidetti. Gözde never changed her club and she grow as a player more than anyone. Same applies with Eda, she has been playing in FB for ages and she still keeps improving her level every year. Indeed I really like that clubs keep these elite players in their roster for many years and they become a symbol of that club (such as Gülden and Esra in Eczacıbaşı)

By the way, it is not like there is no challenge anymore when you have Zhu in your team. Playing a good game with many stars is still a big challenge (for many years, both Eczacıbaşı and FB couldn't be successful due to lack of good setters such as Naz) Indeed, whenever I see Vakıfbank wins against Eczacı or FB, I always ask myself whether score could have been other way around if Naz would have played in Eczacıbaşı or FB. Both teams have great roster but they can't be successful since they always had to sacrifice one of foreign attacker at bench or have to alternate their setter with mediocre local ones.

Quoted from "Canter"

Btw,i liked rfabio as a user,hope we can see him again
He was like a dictionary about some infos about volley

Quoted from "Sisko95"

I think Naz is a great setter and find it odd when some people say she is bad for Vakif. But I also think that she is just one reason VB are better than FB and ECZ. Vakif have all the best local players with the exception of Eda. Beyza and Meliha are good players but not elite level and Busra and Simge are also not that good. For Fener, yes Eda is elite but Dicle Nur and Bahar are not at that level, neither are their liberos and neither is Polen/Cagla. However Kubra, Gozde and Naz are all excellent players and even though Gizem is not always great I think she is definitely better than the liberos of the other teams.

Clearly Vakif have a big advantage in local players in general, not just Naz. Add to that Zhu being the best player in the world, Rasic being probably the best MB in the world and Sloetjes being the best “second choice” attacker and you have a team that is clearly stronger than the other two, as great as they are

Quoted from "Sisko95"

I think Naz is a great setter and find it odd when some people say she is bad for Vakif. But I also think that she is just one reason VB are better than FB and ECZ. Vakif have all the best local players with the exception of Eda. Beyza and Meliha are good players but not elite level and Busra and Simge are also not that good. For Fener, yes Eda is elite but Dicle Nur and Bahar are not at that level, neither are their liberos and neither is Polen/Cagla. However Kubra, Gozde and Naz are all excellent players and even though Gizem is not always great I think she is definitely better than the liberos of the other teams.

Clearly Vakif have a big advantage in local players in general, not just Naz. Add to that Zhu being the best player in the world, Rasic being probably the best MB in the world and Sloetjes being the best “second choice” attacker and you have a team that is clearly stronger than the other two, as great as they are.

Quoted from "leo2017"

LangPing did not block ZHUTING from coming to Vakif earlier. It was Chinese volleyball league that did not allow any active player to play overseas. LangPing was the most important one to help ZhuTing to have the chance to play abroad. I am from China, I know this to be the case.

Quoted from "serdar"

Quoted from "beri"

Trying to move on:

I do think it would be best for Naz to leave VakifBank just because I feel like VB won't help her grow as a player anymore or challenge her as a setter. Personally I believe she could become even better playing for another club now however I can see VB struggling big time if she decided to leave indeed.

I don't think so. She is working with one of the best trainer in the world. Playing in the same club for a long time doesn't make any harm. Just have a look to Gözde's development, she improved soo much under guidance of Guidetti. Gözde never changed her club and she grow as a player more than anyone. Same applies with Eda, she has been playing in FB for ages and she still keeps improving her level every year. Indeed I really like that clubs keep these elite players in their roster for many years and they become a symbol of that club (such as Gülden and Esra in Eczacıbaşı)

By the way, it is not like there is no challenge anymore when you have Zhu in your team. Playing a good game with many stars is still a big challenge (for many years, both Eczacıbaşı and FB couldn't be successful due to lack of good setters such as Naz) Indeed, whenever I see Vakıfbank wins against Eczacı or FB, I always ask myself whether score could have been other way around if Naz would have played in Eczacıbaşı or FB. Both teams have great roster but they can't be successful since they always had to sacrifice one of foreign attacker at bench or have to alternate their setter with mediocre local ones.

Yes, I agree！if 3 foreign players allowed, naz is the key to break the balance. And, if turkish league allows 4 foreign players in the court at the same time, the influence of naz will be much lower. However, it harms the developement of local younger player. If 4 players allowed, i think fenerbache and ecz vitra will be at the same level as vakifbank. I think zhuting is the key to break the balance between the top teams! Who gets zhuting, who has bigger chance to get the gold medal! Actually, fenerbache contacts zhuting from the beginning till now!, zhuting declines the offer. This season, fenerbache refuses to pay high salary to KYK due to her slowing down performance. That is the main reason kyk goes to shanghai.

btw: Guddetti invited zhuting to join vakifank in 2013. However langping did not let zhuting go. From that time, guddetti can not find a strong enough outside hitter and can not win champions league since 2013-2014 season!!

If clubs have enough money to invest next season, we may see:

fenerbache: KYK,natalia,raminova,cari loyid,
vakifban: Zhuting, rasic, slotejes,Robinson
eczvitra:maja, boscovic, Thaisa, larson.