You are not logged in.

world volleyball coaches show 2018 header

Dear visitor, welcome to Inside VolleyCountry. If this is your first visit here, please read the Help. It explains in detail how this page works. To use all features of this page, you should consider registering. Please use the registration form, to register here or read more information about the registration process. If you are already registered, please login here.

1,461

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 1:41pm

Not making any comparison atm so dont get all butthurt


Imo reception is the hardest aspect of volleyball and the hardest to master.I watched a long interview with KYK recently and reason KYK is such an all around amazing player while still being the height she is is because she played basically as a serving libero in the first part of her carreer. I know its almost impossible to believe but she used to be the worst spiker of her team :cheesy: she said she then worked hours every single day on her reception and passing and serve since she was a little child so she could completely master that you can imagine there will very few if any offensive OH's that will ever reach her defensive skills. She said she then felt like she mastered the court with her serve and defensive skills which eventually helped her offense wise. Also she played for a bad team and had to do basically everything for them for a few years which must have helped her as well. How much she could reach her offensive skills while being nomally a defensive player imo just shows how much of a true talent and blessing she is to the volleyball world and not many can top her bcs of this reason imo. In Shanghai again she is the best attacker/receiver/everything again. You just gotta love KYK :heart: :win:

Agreed. Zhuting and KYK have their own supporters. KYK plays well in shanghai. I think she made the right choice to play in China. However, let us see whether will she want to back to europe with lower salary than before :teach:

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "leo2017" (Jan 21st 2018, 2:10pm)


1,462

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 1:50pm

Vakifbank become all about Zhu.

When KYK played for Fener She was the main player but all other players had big roles in their team. And now if Zhu is playing like normal player, Vakif is not what they are. Only when Zhu is playing like She can than no one in Turkish league can't fight against them.

I disagree. Zhu Ting works becuase her teammates allow her to show her best. Whenever Galatasaray found her with service, Vakifbank Lost the point. Guidetti tried a 2 people reception line and subbed at first her (second set) and then Lonneke on the back row (third and fourth set). When they found a way to make the chinese comfortable with her task, she killed the ball. It doesn't look an all about Zhu team, when she is dependent on her teammates.

KYK in another kind of player. She can do everything She wants, because She is in total control of all the volleyball skills. Don't forget She was the best scorer, spiler, receiver and server of her team. Her skills gave more chance to Fener, since no one had to cover her, but She was the one covering the others. And of course when they were struggling It was 'ball to Kim and we celebrate'.
Zhuting's volleyball skills has already been recognized by lots of top volleyball players and top coaches.And she has lots of international fans now. More important, she is writing the history now. If somebody is so good why he can not get as many medals and mvp as possible. Advanced skills do not mean amazing results! It is like other job in the real life. Somebody just can not achieve legendary achievement even if he is in control of all skills!! :teach: For somebody like you, no matter you like or not,you will be jealous for a very long time,because zhuting will continue to get gold medals and mvp for a long time~~~~ :teach:

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "leo2017" (Jan 21st 2018, 2:51pm)


SHAME

Moderator

  • "SHAME" is male

Posts: 5,425

Favourite Team: USA (W/M) - BRA (W/M) - PUR (W/M)

  • Send private message

1,463

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 1:53pm

Wow! GS is being very unlucky in crucial moments again and again, I hope all these will turn around in playoffs. Must be very dissapointing for girls.

Rabadzhieva is such a waste of investment for GS so far. It becomes so obvious that Koshe or Nesli will get the ball when Rabadzhieva simply is useless in attacking. Those 2 receiving errors in a row in the last set, I really don't know what to expect from her from now on. I wish GS kept Leys or Guldeniz instead of her.

Well done Vakifbank! Cansu and refs saved their butts today :whistle:

actually she was your dear in the past :thumbsup:
i agree with you about Leys and Güldeniz..Raba's passing is also not realiable at crucial times as much as her attack

Robinson as foreigner could be more useful for Gala than Rabadzieva
Rabadzhieva, my dear? There must be a confusion here :) I was accused of being a Rabadzhieva hater by a bulgarian user in this forum once. What I appreciated with her most was her receiving skills and she was clearly the best GS could transfer this summer. She was indeed one of the best (maybe the best) defensive OH in the market.

What annoys me most about Rabadzhieva is, she doesnt even cover a large space to receive as she used to in her previous teams. Neslihan and Gizem are receiving most of the serves, because opponents know that they are worse receivers. It would be great if Rabadzhieva limited their space more, so that Neslihan did not have to worry about receiving. Now each of Neslihan-Gizem are receiving like 30 times per match while Rabadzhieva sometimes end up receiving less than 10 serves. Furthermore, her serving is such a mess! I criticised this in the beginning of the season and it didnt develop either. She switched to jump serves from jump floats which are not more effective and more error prone.

In my opinion attacking stats of Rabadzhieva is low due to misconnection with Gamze, yesterday they actually had a small talk and were angry at each other. The problem is, although she is a defensive OH, her attacking approach is very Russian, indeed very slow. So she expects clear, high and slow sets, similar to Kosheleva's. What happens here is, Turkish teams have good blockers and a team like Vakifbank will always bring a triple block if she asks for such slow sets and she is simply not capable of passing those blocks! Yesterday, she also looked extremely stressed and nervous, I think she knew she was bad all the time. It is such a cruel move by Ataman not to bench her in such a bad day and let her get worse on the court.

I don't understand all the fuzz about Asli Kalac either. Yes she is a short MB but that is not necessarily a bad thing. Yesterday Zhu had more troubles when Asli was blocking! Gözde was blocked 2-3 times when Asli was in the front row. She almost always places herself very well in the block that opponents either hit over her block and hit out, or Gizem Karadayi digs anything going around her block. To me, 1st criteria from an MB is that they place them well in block, no matter if they are 200cm tall or 150cm. Makes life so easier for the defenders in the backrow. Besides, Asli is the best attacking MB of GS, Ruseva is a great blocker but her attacking is extremely problematic, Jack is so out of form that her jumping skills and speed is nowhere close to last years. Over all these, Asli is the best server and defender among these 3. Ataman should insist on her :win:

Very good point of view. I agree on everything. :win:
"Voglio i tuoi occhi quando sognerai per farmi rimanere qui"
"...come la terra la pioggia d'estate"
"Io ti ho coperto le spalle, scoprendo tutto il mio cuore"
- Emma :heart: :love:

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "SHAME" (Jan 21st 2018, 1:59pm)


SHAME

Moderator

  • "SHAME" is male

Posts: 5,425

Favourite Team: USA (W/M) - BRA (W/M) - PUR (W/M)

  • Send private message

1,464

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 1:56pm

Not making any comparison atm so dont get all butthurt


Imo reception is the hardest aspect of volleyball and the hardest to master.I watched a long interview with KYK recently and reason KYK is such an all around amazing player while still being the height she is is because she played basically as a serving libero in the first part of her carreer. I know its almost impossible to believe but she used to be the worst spiker of her team :cheesy: she said she then worked hours every single day on her reception and passing and serve since she was a little child so she could completely master that you can imagine there will very few if any offensive OH's that will ever reach her defensive skills. She said she then felt like she mastered the court with her serve and defensive skills which eventually helped her offense wise. Also she played for a bad team and had to do basically everything for them for a few years which must have helped her as well. How much she could reach her offensive skills while being nomally a defensive player imo just shows how much of a true talent and blessing she is to the volleyball world and not many can top her bcs of this reason imo. In Shanghai again she is the best attacker/receiver/everything again. You just gotta love KYK :heart: :win:

Of course we can't compare them, since they have completely different skills. We can Just say who we like the most.

Btw, I'm so amazed by Neslihan lately. And she's more beautiful than ever. :love:
"Voglio i tuoi occhi quando sognerai per farmi rimanere qui"
"...come la terra la pioggia d'estate"
"Io ti ho coperto le spalle, scoprendo tutto il mio cuore"
- Emma :heart: :love:

  • "Meatballs" is male

Posts: 2,183

Favourite Team: Galatasaray, Turkish NT Women

Favourite Players: Gamze Alikaya, Kim Yeon-koung, Milena Rasic, Isabelle Haak, Saori Kimura

Location: Sweden

Occupation: Setter

  • Send private message

1,465

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 2:34pm

I think any team in Turkey would love to have KYK in their team still. Vakifbank would have an amazing duo with Zhu-KYK, Larson will very likely leave Eczacibasi next season and they could use KYK-Hande (Meliha), GS could do great with KYK-Neslihan-Kosheleva trio and FB misses her a lot and simply couldnt find a good replacement. I wish she could play another 10 years :rose:

Thank you Shame for your comment above :drink:

1,466

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 2:41pm

I think any team in Turkey would love to have KYK in their team still. Vakifbank would have an amazing duo with Zhu-KYK, Larson will very likely leave Eczacibasi next season and they could use KYK-Hande (Meliha), GS could do great with KYK-Neslihan-Kosheleva trio and FB misses her a lot and simply couldnt find a good replacement. I wish she could play another 10 years :rose:

Thank you Shame for your comment above :drink:
The reality is no club wants to pay same high salary as before to her even if club wants to invest. All turkey's club managers know her performance is slowing down. However, if kyk accepts lower salary(like same salary as natalia). we may see kyk in turkey clubs next season!:teach:

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "leo2017" (Jan 21st 2018, 3:13pm)


Posts: 2,206

About me: Favorite teams: M: USA, Serbia, Italy,Russia, Perugia, PGE Skra, Taubate W: Brazil, Japan, Serbia, wherever club Queen Sheilla is at...

"Be careful how you treat people. What you do to others has a funny way of coming back on you..."

Location: End of the f****** world

Occupation: Prostitution... Do you believe me? :-*

  • Send private message

1,467

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 3:12pm

KYK dreams of a medal in the world division. Every athlete wants one in their trophy cabinet.

We often talk about club but we underestimate that need to bring glory to your nation.

She's not getting any younger. The china deal brings her the dough and relative closeness to Korea.(I mean it's not that really close but it's not european far.) It could help her and her teammates make a connection and train at much ease than when she was in Europe in my opinion. The body can only take much when you are older and she made the best decision playing in China when you think about it.

I also don't think Zhu Ting-KYK is possible unless Vakifbank is that stupid without thinking of Gozde's long term replacement . Just too much money involved that may not see a return of investment for the club.
Favorite players: M: Maxim Mikhaylov, Murilo, Serginho, Aaron Russell, Otavio, Simone Giannelli, Ivan Zaytsev, Tsvetan Sokolov, Michał Kubiak, Mariusz Wlazly, Pawel Zagummy W: Sheilla, Zhu Ting, Natalia, Fe Garay, Fofao, Gabi, Thaisa, Foluke Akinradewo, Wei Qiuyue, Ding Xia, Carli Lloyd, Fabi, Natalia Goncharova, Yuko Sano, Saoris Kimura and Sakoda

1,468

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 3:27pm

http://www.trt.net.tr/anasayfa/canli.aspx?y=tv&k=trtspor

Besiktas vs Fener.Besiktas takes first set 25-19.Natalia is awful this season :aww:
Sorry for my bad English ^^

1,469

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 3:27pm

What happens to fenerbache?? If they play like this, there is no hope to get out of group b in champions league! :sos:

btw, eda is return!

Posts: 2,206

About me: Favorite teams: M: USA, Serbia, Italy,Russia, Perugia, PGE Skra, Taubate W: Brazil, Japan, Serbia, wherever club Queen Sheilla is at...

"Be careful how you treat people. What you do to others has a funny way of coming back on you..."

Location: End of the f****** world

Occupation: Prostitution... Do you believe me? :-*

  • Send private message

1,470

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 3:50pm

Is Abbondanza still free in the market? I don't know if it will help but maybe he could bring some confidence back to Fenerbahce...
Favorite players: M: Maxim Mikhaylov, Murilo, Serginho, Aaron Russell, Otavio, Simone Giannelli, Ivan Zaytsev, Tsvetan Sokolov, Michał Kubiak, Mariusz Wlazly, Pawel Zagummy W: Sheilla, Zhu Ting, Natalia, Fe Garay, Fofao, Gabi, Thaisa, Foluke Akinradewo, Wei Qiuyue, Ding Xia, Carli Lloyd, Fabi, Natalia Goncharova, Yuko Sano, Saoris Kimura and Sakoda

beri

Professional

  • "beri" is female

Posts: 1,391

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

  • Send private message

1,471

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 4:41pm

Beşiktaş on their way to beat Fenerbahçe 3-1 :white: if this happens its the second in a short time that FB loses 3 points against mid range team. First Halkbank now BJK

1,472

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 4:49pm

Beşiktaş on their to beat Fenerbahçe 3-1 :white: if this happens its the second in a short time that FB loses 3 points against mid range team. First Halkbank now BJK
The result of this match is not important, the real problem is the performance of whole team. They can not fight italian teams with this status. :what:

beri

Professional

  • "beri" is female

Posts: 1,391

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

  • Send private message

1,473

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 4:52pm

Beşiktaş on their to beat Fenerbahçe 3-1 :white: if this happens its the second in a short time that FB loses 3 points against mid range team. First Halkbank now BJK
The result of this match is not important, the real problem is the performance of whole team. They can not fight italian teams with this status. :what:


Yea I agree BJK is not a bad team at all they even pushed VakifBank but FB really is complete mess atm and looks weak.

1,474

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 5:26pm

After this round NO.3 and No.4 of regular season is almost fixed. The war left in regular season is between vakifbank and ecz vitra to get no.1 now. I think fenerbache and galatasary should focus more on champions league now. :teach:

beri

Professional

  • "beri" is female

Posts: 1,391

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

  • Send private message

1,475

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 5:42pm

After this round NO.3 and No.4 of regular season is almost fixed. The war left in regular season is between vakifbank and ecz vitra to get no.1 now. I think fenerbache and galatasary should focus more on champions league now. :teach:


Top 3 2 is done sure but there is only 3 points between Galatasaray and Bursa so that one is not sure at all. Also the battle for top 8 is more exciting then ever this season. Halkbank, BJK, Nilüfer, Seramiksan, Beylikdüzü and even Çanakkale all seem in a super close race. Also Leo remember being top 4 has no real benefits only nr1 in regular season. It is about getting to top 8.



My ideal top 8 would be:

EczV, Vakif, FB, GS, Bursa, Halkbank, BJK, Seramiksan.

Leaving for relegation: Beylikdüzü, Nilüfer, Çanakkale, Ilbank

I only want Ilbank to relegate to 2nd division tbh other teams are all so competitive this season.

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "beri" (Jan 21st 2018, 6:17pm)


Posts: 138

Location: Canada​

  • Send private message

1,476

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 5:44pm

Whats the point of double substitution? Whats in his mind really?
I wonder if Polen can be useful in any team.

  • "Meatballs" is male

Posts: 2,183

Favourite Team: Galatasaray, Turkish NT Women

Favourite Players: Gamze Alikaya, Kim Yeon-koung, Milena Rasic, Isabelle Haak, Saori Kimura

Location: Sweden

Occupation: Setter

  • Send private message

1,477

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 6:06pm

After this round NO.3 and No.4 of regular season is almost fixed. The war left in regular season is between vakifbank and ecz vitra to get no.1 now. I think fenerbache and galatasary should focus more on champions league now. :teach:


Top 3 is done sure but there is only 3 points between Galatasaray and Bursa so that one is not sure at all. Also the battle for top 8 is more exciting then ever this season. Halkbank, BJK, Nilüfer, Seramiksan, Beylikdüzü and even Çanakkale all seem in a super close race. Also Leo remember being top 4 has no real benefits only nr1 in regular season. It is about getting to top 8.



My ideal top 8 would be:

EczV, Vakif, FB, GS, Bursa, Halkbank, BJK, Seramiksan.

Leaving for relegation: Beylikdüzü, Nilüfer, Çanakkale, Ilbank

I only want Ilbank to relegate to 2nd division tbh other teams are all so competitive this season.
Top 3 is done? GS played with Eczacibasi and Vakifbank but Fenerbahce did not play against any of them yet in second half. If FB loses all three without any points, then GS goes up to 3rd place, which is not impossible considering FB's current shape. Therefore the match between GS-FB is very critical next week. Besides, who can say that FB won't lose anymore points except these 3? :whistle:

beri

Professional

  • "beri" is female

Posts: 1,391

Favourite Team: Fenerbahce, Bursa BBSK, Seramiksan, Turkish NT & Serbian NT & Italian NT

Favourite Players: KIM YK & EDA ERDEM

Location: Istanbul, Turkey

  • Send private message

1,478

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 6:16pm

After this round NO.3 and No.4 of regular season is almost fixed. The war left in regular season is between vakifbank and ecz vitra to get no.1 now. I think fenerbache and galatasary should focus more on champions league now. :teach:


Top 3 is done sure but there is only 3 points between Galatasaray and Bursa so that one is not sure at all. Also the battle for top 8 is more exciting then ever this season. Halkbank, BJK, Nilüfer, Seramiksan, Beylikdüzü and even Çanakkale all seem in a super close race. Also Leo remember being top 4 has no real benefits only nr1 in regular season. It is about getting to top 8.



My ideal top 8 would be:

EczV, Vakif, FB, GS, Bursa, Halkbank, BJK, Seramiksan.

Leaving for relegation: Beylikdüzü, Nilüfer, Çanakkale, Ilbank

I only want Ilbank to relegate to 2nd division tbh other teams are all so competitive this season.
Top 3 is done? GS played with Eczacibasi and Vakifbank but Fenerbahce did not play against any of them yet in second half. If FB loses all three without any points, then GS goes up to 3rd place, which is not impossible considering FB's current shape. Therefore the match between GS-FB is very critical next week. Besides, who can say that FB won't lose anymore points except these 3? :whistle:


Typo I mean't Top 2. I see FB lose against Vakif, EczV and GS if they don't make a drastic change which I doubt will happen. I meant battle for nr1 (CL) is between Vakif and EczV and Bursa is not far behind the other two :D

1,479

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 9:44pm

Wow! GS is being very unlucky in crucial moments again and again, I hope all these will turn around in playoffs. Must be very dissapointing for girls.

Rabadzhieva is such a waste of investment for GS so far. It becomes so obvious that Koshe or Nesli will get the ball when Rabadzhieva simply is useless in attacking. Those 2 receiving errors in a row in the last set, I really don't know what to expect from her from now on. I wish GS kept Leys or Guldeniz instead of her.

Well done Vakifbank! Cansu and refs saved their butts today :whistle:

actually she was your dear in the past :thumbsup:
i agree with you about Leys and Güldeniz..Raba's passing is also not realiable at crucial times as much as her attack

Robinson as foreigner could be more useful for Gala than Rabadzieva
Rabadzhieva, my dear? There must be a confusion here :) I was accused of being a Rabadzhieva hater by a bulgarian user in this forum once. What I appreciated with her most was her receiving skills and she was clearly the best GS could transfer this summer. She was indeed one of the best (maybe the best) defensive OH in the market.


i remember when Rabadzieva was first time playing for Galatasaray (one of her teammate was Saori or Neriman or Both) you used to like her a lot..especalily you were prasing her playoff perfromance a lot thats why i used "dear" word :thumbsup: ..do i remember that wrong ? she hasnt been playing well so far..i hope she gets better when it matters most
meso mi ra se beno...

1,480

Sunday, January 21st 2018, 10:15pm

Beşiktaş's opp Alessia's performance has dropped in the recent matches..on the contrary,OHs Olga and Şeyma's performances are getting better
meso mi ra se beno...

Similar threads

Social bookmarks