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Sunday, February 11th 2018, 6:46pm

i suppose Ilbank will complete the league as 0-22 :(
i guess this will/should be a record
meso mi ra se beno...

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Sunday, February 11th 2018, 10:24pm

I can actually see a lot of potential in Damla. I know her attack and reception may not be the best but her defense is very good! I can imagine her being in VakifBank and taking Gözdes role. Of course, she needs a lot of to improve and she needs a coach like Guidetti to improve on a maximum level. Remember: Gözde was also not the best when she came to Vakif, the reason why Gözde is today Gözde is Guidetti, he made an amazing player out of her and this just couple a years ago (after London Olympics I would say).
Vakif will not find a ready local OH who can take Gözdes role after this season, they have to ''form'' one and in my opinion, one great candidate could be Damla. She could be a really good all-around player under Guidetti.


I disagree. I don't know why people think all short OHs are good defensive/receiver players :aww: Damla herself is a good example for this. She is already quite overachieved considering her limited skills (most likely reason is that she has played with 1994-95 generation although she was born in 1993, another B. Castillo case apparently) Damla's a big reliability at reception since she was playing in junior NT and it is unbelievable to compare her with Gözde right now. I agree that Gözde improved a lot under the guidance of Guidetti (pretty much any player who worked with Gui, improved drastically), especially at attacking and blocking. However Gözde has always been very good receiver and defender at even very early age, which is something Damla isn't. Ezgi Dağdelenler has bigger potential than Damla but she has always played in weak teams so this is her first season to prove herself in a big club. Pity that she got injured.

Guidetti is giving many chances to Tuğba Şenoğlu and she is using it well so far. Thus, I expect she will be the starter OH in Vakıfbank next year

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Sunday, February 11th 2018, 10:43pm

There are many (young) local OH's I'm excited about I can't say Damla is one of them either. However one thing I have to say is she would be a great leader imo. And hey you never know with some players and how/when they rise.

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Sunday, February 11th 2018, 10:55pm

I can actually see a lot of potential in Damla. I know her attack and reception may not be the best but her defense is very good! I can imagine her being in VakifBank and taking Gözdes role. Of course, she needs a lot of to improve and she needs a coach like Guidetti to improve on a maximum level. Remember: Gözde was also not the best when she came to Vakif, the reason why Gözde is today Gözde is Guidetti, he made an amazing player out of her and this just couple a years ago (after London Olympics I would say).
Vakif will not find a ready local OH who can take Gözdes role after this season, they have to ''form'' one and in my opinion, one great candidate could be Damla. She could be a really good all-around player under Guidetti.


I disagree. I don't know why people think all short OHs are good defensive/receiver players :aww: Damla herself is a good example for this. She is already quite overachieved considering her limited skills (most likely reason is that she has played with 1994-95 generation although she was born in 1993, another B. Castillo case apparently) Damla's a big reliability at reception since she was playing in junior NT and it is unbelievable to compare her with Gözde right now. I agree that Gözde improved a lot under the guidance of Guidetti (pretty much any player who worked with Gui, improved drastically), especially at attacking and blocking. However Gözde has always been very good receiver and defender at even very early age, which is something Damla isn't. Ezgi Dağdelenler has bigger potential than Damla but she has always played in weak teams so this is her first season to prove herself in a big club. Pity that she got injured.

Guidetti is giving many chances to Tuğba Şenoğlu and she is using it well so far. Thus, I expect she will be the starter OH in Vakıfbank next year


I agree. Also Ezgi was playing really good with the NT some years ago, so I was surprised she didn't fknd a better club to play in..

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Sunday, February 11th 2018, 11:26pm

@serdar did you watch Vakıf's matches? Tuğba is really awful at receiving.She is also making lots of mistakes at attacking.When she was starter, she was always replaced by Gözde.I think next year Guidetti will play with 2 local MBs or local opp.Ebrar is training with A team, she is added to Champions League squad last week.Also Guidetti likes Meryem.
Sorry for my bad English ^^

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:15am

FB SK has a bad sitution.Now We have Zero Yes 0 outside hitter.Natalia said that I have pain no play also Mia Jerkov was ill no play, Ezgi is only one real Turkish player but this season is closed.Damla is not enough good player for FB SK.
She has very limit player.No attack bad receive bad service.I never like Damla
We use 2 opposite cuz no choice.Also Bahar is very bad performance until now.We will see What Will Happen in Play Offs

Next year I guess Ezgi no Play for Eczacı Already They have lots of players every position.
Setter Maja Or may be Wolosz, Sahin sisters one of them setter, Arelya, Sermin, Mısra Probably One Transfer Cagla or Cansu I think Ezgi wil go, Arelya-Sahin-Sermin-Mısra continue to leasing Maja Or Wolosz and Cagla or Cansu new setter
Outside Hitter Meliha Smajlovic,Guldeniz,Hande Baladin,Saliha Sahin,Gozde Yılmaz,Jordan Larson probably Samantha Bricio
Middle Blocker Adams,Thaisa,Beyza,Busra,Yasemin may be add Bahar

Also lots of player leasing such as Rida,Arelya,Sermin,Mısra Nevermind for Ecz.

I think FB SK will change almost all roster Eda,Dicle,Merve,Melis stay the others Full leave My Guess

GS SK according to sportive success for example join CL or CEV Cup also budget, sponsors

Vakıfbank in my opinion Kelsey and Lonneke part aways I think Bricio come to Vakıf or Eczacıbası If We have good budget also can take FB SK

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:21am

@serdar did you watch Vakıf's matches? Tuğba is really awful at receiving.She is also making lots of mistakes at attacking.When she was starter, she was always replaced by Gözde.I think next year Guidetti will play with 2 local MBs or local opp.Ebrar is training with A team, she is added to Champions League squad last week.Also Guidetti likes Meryem.

Tuğba is clearly not a defensive OH but rather a balanced OH who can both attack and receive decently, which is something more useful than OHs who can only attack or receive.

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:28am

Fenerbahce reception is just tragic. This was obviously going to happen from before the season started, I have no idea why they didn't transfer a good receiving OH.
No money for transfers.

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:32am

Fenerbahce reception is just tragic. This was obviously going to happen from before the season started, I have no idea why they didn't transfer a good receiving OH.
No good players left. Ecz vitra pays more money to some old fenerbache players obviously. Money decides lots of things. Ecz vitra invests a lot on local player this season. :lol:
Every year collect lots of player by Eczacıbası. Transfers every year champion but success ?

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 2:22am

@serdar did you watch Vakıf's matches? Tuğba is really awful at receiving.She is also making lots of mistakes at attacking.When she was starter, she was always replaced by Gözde.I think next year Guidetti will play with 2 local MBs or local opp.Ebrar is training with A team, she is added to Champions League squad last week.Also Guidetti likes Meryem.
Agreed with you on Tugba. Tugba will need another two years to be a quality starter for Vakifbank. I am sorry but Damla is not a VB material. Doubt VB would give up Rasic though, both of her blocking and serving are at elite level.

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 3:41am

Who's the richest Turkish team of the top 4? Thanks.

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 8:23am

It's Vakifbank or Eczacibasi.Probably Vakifbank.
Who's the richest Turkish team of the top 4? Thanks.
Sorry for my bad English ^^

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 10:58am

I know that Damla is not ready for VakifBank. She could have improved herself in Eczacibasi a couple of seasons ago but got injured and after that she played in the 2nd league and now returned to the first league by joinig Fenerbahce.
Tugba is definitely not ready! She will never start, she must gain experience and therefore she needs to play as a starter at least 1 season up from now, which she is not doing in this season.
I just imagined Damla under Guidetti and how she can develop, her defense is superb, she really has to improve both in attack and receiving.

I guess Vakif will part the ways with Slöetjes and Robinson. Slöetjes is not delivering anymore and since Guidetti is not the coach of NED he can give up on her easily. I never understood the transfer of Robinson which is wasting money and talent. The part that she is doing (which is also not much and also not taking any important responsibility) can be easily done by a local OH.
The reason why Ebrar is added to the CL roster is for sure the bad performance of Slöetjes. Vakif needs a few years to comeback again on top and being a candidate for all trophies after Gözdes retirement. They can‘t start at the same point where they have ended with Gözde.

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 11:56am

I know that Damla is not ready for VakifBank. She could have improved herself in Eczacibasi a couple of seasons ago but got injured and after that she played in the 2nd league and now returned to the first league by joinig Fenerbahce.
Tugba is definitely not ready! She will never start, she must gain experience and therefore she needs to play as a starter at least 1 season up from now, which she is not doing in this season.
I just imagined Damla under Guidetti and how she can develop, her defense is superb, she really has to improve both in attack and receiving.

I guess Vakif will part the ways with Slöetjes and Robinson. Slöetjes is not delivering anymore and since Guidetti is not the coach of NED he can give up on her easily. I never understood the transfer of Robinson which is wasting money and talent. The part that she is doing (which is also not much and also not taking any important responsibility) can be easily done by a local OH.
The reason why Ebrar is added to the CL roster is for sure the bad performance of Slöetjes. Vakif needs a few years to comeback again on top and being a candidate for all trophies after Gözdes retirement. They can‘t start at the same point where they have ended with Gözde.
Yes. Turkey natioanal team also faces this problem. Lots of good old players are going to retire or staying in the club. The young generation is still not ready for big match! As national coach of turkey, i think guddettii will use this power to transfer a good local OH to vakifbank next season! Just Imagin meliha goes back to fenerbache. Onal gulden goes back to galatasary. Ecz vitra system is collapsed. That is what ecz vitra did in last year's transfer market. No good local young players available in the market. All teams will have problems. The only result is to see which club pays more to local players. :teach:

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:39pm

Who's the richest Turkish team of the top 4? Thanks.
Boru of them actually but Ecz every year spend incredible money This area number one, both of trans if they want every year spend 10M USD very easily
Two teams The richest teams All The World

But only Vakıf success, FB And GS has temporary budget Aqual 4,5M USD This year GS has bigger budget than FB
İ dont think sonra GS next year same big budget

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:47pm

İ disagree Damla improve with Ecz. She never Play with Ecz such as Havelkova,Wang etc
Also disagree with Guidetti can improve This is a city legend, lots of Played Vakıf And Who improved yourself
Melis Durul,Ceyda,The other Turkish player now i cant remember,Melis Gurkaynak,Ozgenur Yurtdagulen,Ergül Avcı etc

Guidetti improve All Players ,This is not true

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 12:54pm

I know that Damla is not ready for VakifBank. She could have improved herself in Eczacibasi a couple of seasons ago but got injured and after that she played in the 2nd league and now returned to the first league by joinig Fenerbahce.
Tugba is definitely not ready! She will never start, she must gain experience and therefore she needs to play as a starter at least 1 season up from now, which she is not doing in this season.
I just imagined Damla under Guidetti and how she can develop, her defense is superb, she really has to improve both in attack and receiving.

I guess Vakif will part the ways with Slöetjes and Robinson. Slöetjes is not delivering anymore and since Guidetti is not the coach of NED he can give up on her easily. I never understood the transfer of Robinson which is wasting money and talent. The part that she is doing (which is also not much and also not taking any important responsibility) can be easily done by a local OH.
The reason why Ebrar is added to the CL roster is for sure the bad performance of Slöetjes. Vakif needs a few years to comeback again on top and being a candidate for all trophies after Gözdes retirement. They can‘t start at the same point where they have ended with Gözde.
Yes. Turkey natioanal team also faces this problem. Lots of good old players are going to retire or staying in the club. The young generation is still not ready for big match! As national coach of turkey, i think guddettii will use this power to transfer a good local OH to vakifbank next season! Just Imagin meliha goes back to fenerbache. Onal gulden goes back to galatasary. Ecz vitra system is collapsed. That is what ecz vitra did in last year's transfer market. No good local young players available in the market. All teams will have problems. The only result is to see which club pays more to local players. :teach:
This is not interest situtation. Ecz everytime collect All Turkish Players while already lots of Players
Şermin, Sırma while Ecz setters, transferred Rida,Arelya TVF High School, Şahin Sisters from KarayillKar,Ezgi from FB Why?İş it really necessary?Off course not but This is Ecz tradinational

Hande,Gözde,Rida outsude bitter transfer Meliha,Güldeniz than Again Saliha Sahin aldı has one ör two foreugn Players such as Larson

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Monday, February 12th 2018, 1:17pm

I agree on Serdar, I think Tugba can be named as a balanced OH than defensive or offensive. She is similar to Havelkova etc. What I like with her attacking is, her arm swing, she hits hard on the right spots. What I dont like is, her approach is too slow. If she can speed up her attacking, she would become a very good OH. Honestly I don't see any good OH prospects from Turkish locals at the moment with exception of Derya Cebecioglu (Vakifbank's young player on loan in Division 1) who recently got an injury and probably closed the season.

Yaprak Erkek is one of the young OHs who has played in all matches of Ilbank in VVSL this season and did not show anything special. Ilkin Aydin is another prospect who used to be an opposite if I am wrong and now she is practicing as an attacking OH. Her receiving is not terrible and her jump serves are really good. I hope she will make the cut and learn to attack better.

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Tuesday, February 13th 2018, 4:24am

the reality is that the 94-95 generation of turkey was very good in the category U18 and U20 but in the adult it was terrible.


seyma - damla - cagla - ceyda aktas - ceylan - asli are currently bad players and only kubra is an average player.


beyza is a good player but she was not in the U18 and U20 selection


I like dilara bagci but she does not have many opportunities.


ezgi dilik is a good player too.

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Tuesday, February 13th 2018, 11:20am

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seyma - damla - cagla - ceyda aktas - ceylan - asli are currently bad players and only kubra is an average player.

MB Aslı Kalaç is not a bad player however i agree on the others.Şeyma Ercan was a bad player bcz she didnt use to play a lot now she's better yet she has to improve a lot

well one can find her attack average but yet Kübra is a good blocker ..Zehra Güneş is almost as tall as Kübra but she seems to have a better approach than Kübra.this is good
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