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Thursday, March 6th 2008, 6:28pm

I think it is fair to leave it up to non-Turks and non-Poles to say which league is better so I will stop about that too ;)
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Thursday, March 6th 2008, 9:15pm

In my opinion Turkish league has some more real international stars (Aguero, Citakovic, Metcalf) but Polish league has the better local players, especially there are more Polish players on a high level while in Turkish league only those who play in National team are really good, and only very few young talents (e.g. Naz Aydemir, Neriman Özsoy) are coming up. I believe that Eczacibasi and Vakifbank are at least equal, maybe better than the best Polish teams, but I believe that the bad teams in Turkish league are worse than the bad teams in Polish league.

So overall, I cannot really decide which LEAGUE is better. Probably Turkey would be my pick because there are more stars ;)

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Friday, March 7th 2008, 10:22am

1/ LVF a1 (if you would like to watch most fierce fight and volley stars)

2/ SVF (only 3-4 top and rich teams with big stars)

3/ Superliga (focus on Finasa, Rexona, Minas, Brasil Telecom, Pinheiros only.....brasilians born for volley)

4/ Turkish Lig 1 (has less limitatiion on palyer transfer, but the level of the lig is still on developping)

5/ Japan V League (strict restriction on foreign players, each team one foreign player, like nikolic, rondon, pavlova, de la cruz, joines are in different clubs)

6/ Russian Superleague (womens championships are still have big difference to the mens work.....although its changing a lot...most important, the coaches should try out some new conception)

7/ Polish Lig 1 (seldom watch.....but i know its working well and becomes more and more popular in CEV)

8/ Bundesliga (i got a small clip of one of their matches, a big crowd of strong women playing slow volleyball)
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Friday, March 7th 2008, 10:49am

1) Turkey
2) Russia
3) Italy
4) Poland
5) France
6) Spain

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Friday, March 7th 2008, 2:39pm

1/ LVF a1 (if you would like to watch most fierce fight and volley stars)

2/ SVF (only 3-4 top and rich teams with big stars)

3/ Superliga (focus on Finasa, Rexona, Minas, Brasil Telecom, Pinheiros only.....brasilians born for volley)

4/ Turkish Lig 1 (has less limitatiion on palyer transfer, but the level of the lig is still on developping)

5/ Japan V League (strict restriction on foreign players, each team one foreign player, like nikolic, rondon, pavlova, de la cruz, joines are in different clubs)

6/ Russian Superleague (womens championships are still have big difference to the mens work.....although its changing a lot...most important, the coaches should try out some new conception)

7/ Polish Lig 1 (seldom watch.....but i know its working well and becomes more and more popular in CEV)

8/ Bundesliga (i got a small clip of one of their matches, a big crowd of strong women playing slow volleyball)
Hmm, i agree with you on the Bundesliga :lol:
but its kinda weird to see poland so close to germans level, same as russia... I really doubt that and i mentioned my reasons before already...
Its also interesting that u mentioned the japanese league, which is not present in our european heads at all... So its really hard to compare their level with "ours"... so i would put the japanese league into brackets for my option.
And i totally disagree with Spains league on the 2nd rank... Just look at the Championsleague or other european championship (esp. this year).
Besides Murcia there is no team really able to fight for titles on the european level. And with the new rule the spanish league will break down totally, while other countries like Russia and Poland dont have to stress themselves.

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1) Turkey
2) Russia
3) Italy
4) Poland
5) France
6) Spain


:lol: i just love the objective view of some users here.

And France is better than Spain? thats pretty ridiculous either :whistling: Spain has more equal teams than the french league. There is at least a little fight, while its like 200% obvious in france that RC Cannes will win. Only cos RC Cannes is a strong team doesnt make the league strong too.

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Friday, March 7th 2008, 2:47pm

1) Turkey
2) Russia
3) Italy
4) Poland
5) France
6) Spain

Come on :roll: Try to be objective...
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Friday, March 7th 2008, 2:59pm

Europe:
1. Italy
2. Russia
3. Poland/Spain/Turkey (to my mind, level of those leagues is quite similar)

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Saturday, March 8th 2008, 2:15am

I consider Italian to be the best!! In fact I agree with eupho... totally! ;)
The problem I have with br league and japanese league is that it's made basically only for their country to watch...!
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Saturday, March 8th 2008, 10:44am

Hmm, i agree with you on the Bundesliga
but its kinda weird to see poland so close to germans level, same as russia... I really doubt that and i mentioned my reasons before already...
Its also interesting that u mentioned the japanese league, which is not present in our european heads at all... So its really hard to compare their level with "ours"... so i would put the japanese league into brackets for my option.
And i totally disagree with Spains league on the 2nd rank... Just look at the Championsleague or other european championship (esp. this year).
Besides Murcia there is no team really able to fight for titles on the european level. And with the new rule the spanish league will break down totally, while other countries like Russia and Poland dont have to stress themselves.


different people hold their own definition of "GOOD LEAGUE"....

i've clarified that i never ever watched a single match of Polish lig, but i can see polish clubs work in IECL or CEVC, quite disappointing, isnt it?

well, superliga and japan v here are two comparative Leagues, i didnt mean to ask you to judge them at all.....why bother? at least, i think the teams are quite competitive in the worldwide stage.

if you would like to classify the leagues, i'm afraid counting STARS, ACHIEVEMENTS is not enough. we should consider their conception, running expenses, budget, financial support, player salary condition, the volley culture of their NT, potential of sustainable development (such as ESP, ITA, RC Cannes, Zurich Volero, including TUR may face more difficulties at the very last point, i agree with you), TV Broadcasting Capacity, audience box office......and so on....

all the above specialised factors would decide the mode of the Club Construction and whether its gonna be "Good League" when we have chance to watch it...
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Saturday, March 8th 2008, 6:02pm

I was not judging but giving my comments to it, which is pretty legimit cos its a discussions board ;)
and my reaction about the japanese league was more a positive "shock" than a negative.
Whenever i think of league etc the Japanese league is one of those i dont think of, just because it is (unfortunatly) not present here. And im pretty sure that its a pretty nice league, cos of the interesting japanese way of playing volleyball.

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Saturday, March 8th 2008, 6:18pm

I was not judging but giving my comments to it, which is pretty legimit cos its a discussions board ;)
and my reaction about the japanese league was more a positive "shock" than a negative.
Whenever i think of league etc the Japanese league is one of those i dont think of, just because it is (unfortunatly) not present here. And im pretty sure that its a pretty nice league, cos of the interesting japanese way of playing volleyball.
ive got quite a list of 07-08 JPN V League videos, dont know if anyone's interested in it.....
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Saturday, March 8th 2008, 6:59pm

ive got quite a list of 07-08 JPN V League videos, dont know if anyone's interested in it.....
Of course, we are! It's always interesting to learn something new. Upload it for us and we will decide where to put the Japanese league! ;) :D
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