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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 9:55pm

It was a great first final match, cant wait for the others. ^^ Congrats Eczacibasi.
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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 9:57pm

OOO ECZACI :super: Usic :obey: :obey: :obey:
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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 9:57pm

'Every dog has his day'. Nothing more. That all.
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Gold Medals - 13

Silver Medals - 8

Bronze Medals - 7


Overall: 28


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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 9:57pm

First of all THANK YOU girls !! and of course congratulations :rose:
maybe it wasn't their best match but they were fighting till the end :rose: Senna...no words she was amazing with fever or not :super:
I wish all girls who were sick today quick recovery for next match :) Good luck

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Mary" (Apr 8th 2012, 10:32pm)


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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 9:59pm

There is no difference between key players whatever their positions are unless they cannot be replaced fully because it infects whole team in similiar aspect. What I meant is that there is no team in Turkey to back up all critical players especially Turkish ones. If you think opposite is not a key position and easily handled then assume Vakifbank and Eczacibası without Neslihan and Glinka in a game against Fenerbahce. Coach's choices are not my business, I just can say my opinion.

Champions league is not a national organization and cannot be compared. Geographical limitations never allow international organizations to follow the same regulations with national ones. If you dont see that basic point then search for the differences between those competitions on any sport around the world. Beside someone will ask then why they dont organize final game as one match or normal season as qualification round? They are in different levels and have different meanings and rules.

Olympic games qualification is just an excuse. You say as if Turkey is the only country which will play in qualifications and it makes federation right to take unfair decides. Like I said round-rubin system is fairer and takes shorter period if they really want to get some space in schedule. I dont think no one would question the winner then but when you set it up like this, one side would always think it's not fair for it simply seems so. If you were a Fener fan, you would claim the regulation is wrong. If Eczacibasi have lost yesterday, they would say it's. So it's not about Fenerbahce. The system itself gives one side the right to criticize because it's not well organized to stop arguments about it. Did you see anyone that says system is not fair about older champions? Were people talking about play-off system or games recent years here? If we are now discussing the rules as much as games it's because something is wrong. It's federation's mission to make a justice regulation and that play-off chaos doesnt meet those conditions for everyone. This is where you get all the season's effort and no one including president has right to make that simple to lose or win everything for players and teams. Try to put yourself players' and coaches' positions, maybe then you might get better understanment. If we lost in a system like last year, I would never write about this and I dont think anyone would.

As for domination. I am giving the last three season because two teams compete each other on every top level for 3 years and it's not an old period to compare the teams. If you want, this is how it is season for season:

2009-10 6-1 for Fener
2010-11 6-2 for Fener
2011-12 2-1 for Fener

It doesnt seem a balanced rivalry. I am sure you will not claim Vakifbank didnt show real power since play-off finals are not important.

I am not begging anyone, I am just a fan and dont care wild card. If team can't get it this year, there are a lot of seasons to go. It's not the end of the world.



You can criticize the Play-off system (for me it is not that much big deal, purpose was to give national team more time to prepare olympic qualification, which really makes sense.) but blaming federation for the defeat is not logical for me. Even though you don't like the system it was not a last minute decision right? so eveybody knew that since the beginning of season. So FB had time to take some measures, but they didn't.

It is very obvious that Seda has chronic injury (she had many injuries last 3 seasons) and even though she is such a healthy player, a team which has such big roster mustn't trust Yağmus as a only back-up. And also you are wrong about Vakıfbank's case and you miss an important point too: Gözde was very important for team both attacking and receving whereas Seda is only attacker. And as you said It is even possible to put Eda or Duygu as opp to compensate Seda's absent. :whistle: Everybody knows that the easiest position to adaptate to a team is always opposite players but can you claim same thing about a receiver/attacker OH? :roll:

To sum up, firstly although I also prefer the play-off system of last season instead of this one, I can understand the reasons of federation (in the favor of NT) and it is not a valid excuse for me since regulations were clear since the beginning of the season ;) Also it is the same case with Champions League Final Four, only one match determine the champion and they also ignore group results and only one match for being champion and Fenerbahçe did it, right? so it is not that much awkward. Moreover, naming Vakıfbank's success is only because of luck or regulation is purely disrespectful :mad: You got same regulation as Vakıfbank has and the same luck when Gözde were injured. :down:

Secondly, I think that FB makes a very stupid mistake by not transfering any other spiker except or instead of Yağmur.

Thirdly, I don't also agree about your claim about the huge dominations between Vakıfbank and Fenerbahçe. First of all, if you compare two teams it must be season by season instead of over all results(because if you talk about last 3 three season I can give you last 6 seasons results which almost makes results even :roll: ) And for season by season comparation, for me each match doesnot have the same value. And since Vakıfbank shows a better performance with the most crucial ones, for me , they are better or let's say there is no huge domination (but it is totally different understanding of definition of 'dominating' word, I can understand your opinion too )

Lastly, don't forget that the federation you blame would beg CEV to have a Wild Card for Fenerbahçe next season ;)

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 10:02pm

'Every dog has his day'. Nothing more. That all.
What do you mean :?:
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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 11:19pm

today, usic impressed me one more time again :)
4 years ago, haneef park played in eczacibasi, she wasn't good during season matches but she played amazing at final versus fenerbahce and eczacibasi got the champion title in that year. i think senna will do same too. i always support to vakifbank but this year we have some mental problems, if nikolic is not play good really difficult to winfor vakif.... and today she was horrible, only %11 in attack... and nilay's sets werent good in 4th and tie break sets.
and polyak :obey: :obey: :obey: :obey: you are block monster....
:set: :bump: :serve:

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Sunday, April 8th 2012, 11:55pm



how curious, Eczacibasi first attack with positive reception was only 25%, but with negative reception was 65%!!!!! :what: go figer out..hehehehe
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2,250

Monday, April 9th 2012, 12:59am

Can someone please tell me what happened to Fenerbahce? How come they lost to Vakifbank. I love Vakif too, but Logan is my favorite and I know she did not play yesterday. What happened to Seda? Please tell me. I did not have an opportunity to watch the game. So sad


Seda got injured in the first set while Fenerbahçe was leading 17-14. Yağmur replaced Seda. She played as an opposite but she didn't make a single attack in four sets. We just played with Sokolova and especially Kim. It was so easy for Vakıf blocks to predict who will attack. So they block well they defend well and they won. Glinka and Nikolic were also very good in attacks.
I must add we won 3rd set 29-27 and then started 4th set with 7-1 then lost 17-25.

Set scores: 25-20, 22-25, 29-27, 17-25, 13-15

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Monday, April 9th 2012, 7:59am

Conrats EcV!
A day on which Neslihan and Poljak were not good enough at attaking, its good for them to win.Senna played well at tie break as in the last mach against VTT at Semi final.SEnna,Gülden and Esra were the best players of EcV.
VTT played very well auntill the second half of fourth set.Then everything changed in favour of EcV.
EcV did to VTT what VTT did to FbU.LOL.Nesli tries to find his old form after injury .i hope she gets closer to it next match.

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Monday, April 9th 2012, 8:05am

Where can I download the match Fener-vakif? Thanks/

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Monday, April 9th 2012, 1:56pm

Can somebody tell me if it is possible to watch the semi-final (FbU - VTT) on the internet?

THX :)

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Monday, April 9th 2012, 3:18pm

Congratulations Eczacıbaşı !!

I hope next match will be as exciting as this one but the winner would be Vakıfbank !! I really want that championship and I believe we can do it!! It is obvious that Nikolic's performance is very important for our team..Even though every player in the team plays well, when Nikolic plays horrible we can't win any matches so please Nikolic!! Do what did you to Fenerbahce in semis.. :super:
Vakıfbank Istanbul!!!
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Monday, April 9th 2012, 9:00pm

Gulden's fever reached 40C ;( Usic and Elif still have high fever too.They may not play tomorrow ;(
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Monday, April 9th 2012, 9:10pm

not only Eczacı players are ill, but also Vakıf players.


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Monday, April 9th 2012, 9:25pm

not only Eczacı players are ill, but also Vakıf players.

Yea they may be ill too but not serious like Gulden.All of them will play for sure tomorrow probably Gulden will miss tomorrow's match.Gozde is giving interview's around i think she is quite healthy :P
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Monday, April 9th 2012, 9:29pm

Yes yes Gülden's situation is definitely worse I know :( I'm sad for all girls. Hope they all will be able to play tomorrow and we will see some real volley :box:

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Monday, April 9th 2012, 9:43pm

really !? Oh God Guldi ;( it will be hard without her ! I know Buse will try to replace her as best as she can but anyway I hope Gulden will recover. I also can't imagine Eczaci's roster without Senna, she played so great during playoffs. I wish all of them quick recovery for tomorrow. Take care girls !! :flower:

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