Olympic Games - London 2012 Women (qualification process)

  • I think the european teams like Germany, Serbia and Poland is better overall, but they are very fragile to the playing style of the asian teams like THA and Korea, when they dont play at their best. You know what to get from the asians, their gameplan is pretty much to destroy the europeans game (make them play worse), very good in the technical aspects, and when the europeans have a off day in for ex. reception, the chances they lose is pretty big, at least the teams that dont have any Gamova-Goncharova-Estes in attack.

  • In WGP 2010 Germany lost with Thailand 1-3 (25-20 16-25 16-25 22-25)
    source: http://www.fivb.org/EN/volleyb…asp?Tourn=WGP2010&Phase=7

    OK I didn't remember, and I checked the stats of the game and we played it with a lot of substitutions. Either way WGP is not so important, many teams use it rather as preparation for big tournaments...And in Germany's defense, last year we won against Italy in ECH and against USA in World Cup and both matches even 3:0...so just because European teams lose every once in a while against a team that is theoretically worse it's dangerous to draw conclusions.
    I think when people claim that Europe deserves more spots they refer to the high density of good teams in Europe. In South America there is only Brazil, if they had qualified via WC, a weak team from South American would have been in OG. In NORCECA there is USA and DOM, Cuba's level has dropped a lot and also Puerto Rico's level is most likely close to 5th-8th ranked teams in Europe. In Asia, China and Japan are constantly strong, Korea and Thailand are up and down. Thailand's problem is that they have only 6 high level players (plus 2 liberos), but there is nothing behind that. Remember that Serbia is missing 3 important attackers, just imagine Thai team without Onuma, Wilavan and Malika! In Europe there are at least 5-6 teams on very good level, all of them would be higher in world ranking if they played in a different continent, but even when 5th best team from Europe is much better than 2nd best team from South America, in world ranking they can still be behind them...


  • there was a Thai setter who played for Yeşilyurt.

    Her name is Khan-An Narumol, She is now retired from Thai NT. Thailand always has a good new generation of setter. The new substitute is also talented...(Pornpun Guedpard). She is still young but her ability is very closed to Tomkom, just need more time to gain experience

  • i think realiable source is world championships, comparing to Olympics both gave highest point and orginizin each 4 years
    24 teams participate for WC while 12 for Olympic,
    however some teams qualifiyng more easily for Olympics which they get last places in WC


    2010
    1st Russia
    2nd Brazil
    3rd Japan
    4th USA
    5th Italy
    6th Turkey
    7th Germany
    8th Serbia
    9th Poland

    10th China
    11th Netherlands
    12th Cuba
    13th Korea
    Thailand
    15th Czech Republic
    Peru
    17th Costa Rica
    Croatia
    Dominican Republic
    Puerto Rico
    21st Algeria
    Canada
    Kazakhstan
    Kenya


    %58 European %16 Asian %25 American teams at top 12


    2006
    1 RUSSIA
    2 BRAZIL
    3 SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO
    4 ITALY

    5 CHINA
    6 JAPAN
    7 CUBA
    8 NETHERLANDS
    9 U.S.A.
    10 TURKEY
    11 GERMANY

    12 CHINESE TAIPEI
    13 KOREA
    AZERBAIJAN
    15 POLAND
    PUERTO RICO
    17 COSTA RICA
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC

    KAZAKHSTAN
    PERU
    21 CAMEROON
    EGYPT
    KENYA
    MEXICO


    %50 European each %25 Asian and American teams at top 12


    QUALIFIED
    Great Britain
    Italy
    USA
    China
    Algeria
    Dom. Republic
    Turkey
    Brazil
    PROBABLY WILL QULIFIY
    Russia
    Japan
    Seriba/Thailand
    Korea/Cuba


    4-5 European %33-41
    3-4 American %25-33
    2-3 Asian %16-25
    1 African %8 at the moment

  • Oh god. Let's not turn this into a Europe vs. Asia battle. We're talking about the 2012 Olympics. In that context, which European teams deserve to go and why? It's a very simple question.

  • Oh god. Let's not turn this into a Europe vs. Asia battle. We're talking about the 2012 Olympics. In that context, which European teams deserve to go and why? It's a very simple question.


    i think my ex post quite open to understand what we talking about

  • Maybe Fivb should lessen the number of South America's and North America's quotas :P

    ... or widen number of participants in OG from 12 to 16. Could be 2 pools with 8 teams or 4 with 4 teams.

    Gold medal - World League 2013 Prediction Game
    Bronze medal - World League 2012 Prediction Game

  • ... or widen number of participants in OG from 12 to 16. Could be 2 pools with 8 teams or 4 with 4 teams.

    FIVB doesn't have that authority. The IOC dictates 12 players and 12 teams.

  • Oh god. Let's not turn this into a Europe vs. Asia battle. We're talking about the 2012 Olympics. In that context, which European teams deserve to go and why? It's a very simple question.



    I think the question is not which european teams but how many european teams. Anyway OG is a special tournamet where there are not all the most powerful countries in a particular sport. But that is not only happens in volleyball, in general in all team sports.

  • I can't understand. The world ranking isn't a realiable source? But it's only because the ranking that Serbia is playing this WQT.
    The ranking and this strange formula were the criteria chosen by FIVB a long time ago and it had been approved by the confederations, included CEV. So it's too little too late for crying.

  • I think the question is not which european teams but how many european teams. Anyway OG is a special tournamet where there are not all the most powerful countries in a particular sport. But that is not only happens in volleyball, in general in all team sports.

    If Serbia, Japan, and Russia do what they're supposed to then 9 out of the top 11 teams in the world are in the OG. Germany, while a good program, wasn't going to be a medal contender IMO. I'd call that a pretty good job of getting the most powerful countries in the sport in the tournament