The final standings up to the fifth place have been announced. I do not know which criteria have been applied because it is clearly not based on the results from the quarterfinals. Poland finished 5th (organizer of the 2017 European Championship), Russia 6th (qualify for the next ECH), Serbia 7th (qualify for the next ECH), Germany 8th. The Germans will have to enter the qualification rounds. Another interesting piece of information came out on the Russian volleyball media volleyservice.ru - link. Obviously the Russians have ended their worst European campaign. Even as USSR they had not recorded a worse finish, thus making this 6th place the worst in their entire history. Previously they had achieved two 5th places as Russia at the 1995 and 1997 ECHs (and didn't participate at the first ECH in 1948 ).
European Championships 2015 - hosts Italy and Bulgaria
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The final standings up to the fifth place have been announced. I do not know which criteria have been applied because it is clearly not based on the results from the quarterfinals. Poland finished 5th (organizer of the 2017 European Championship), Russia 6th (qualify for the next ECH), Serbia 7th (qualify for the next ECH), Germany 8th. The Germans will have to enter the qualification rounds. Another interesting piece of information came out on the Russian volleyball media volleyservice.ru - link. Obviously the Russians have ended their worst European campaign. Even as USSR they had not recorded a worse finish, thus making this 6th place the worst in their entire history. Previously they had achieved two 5th places as Russia at the 1995 and 1997 ECHs (and didn't participate at the first ECH in 1948 ).
Probably won matches, points etc. like in group stage but I didn't check
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No one is obliged to like our team. Even my wife said they play boring game this championship. Of course with full team and possibly Stoychev as coach /over the dead body of Lazarov - one more plus/ the team will be really attractive for the fans of power volleyball, but in this set of players the best part is the blocking /so the fans of blocking should like us/ France play much more attractive volleyball in the last years, it is normally to bo liked more from purely volleyball aspect. I just hope there aren't many people that don't like the team because it is Bulgaria, not because it doesn't play like Brazillians played football in the 60s.
Who said "I don't like Bulgaria"? We only talked about understimation due to injueries. On the contrary I love Bulgaria because, despite so many injuries, it have achieved semifinals and, personally, I've always loved this little nation who has been able, along decades, to grown up so many great players (Ganev idol of my childhood). I specifically feel sympathy for Bulgaria because it wrongly did not win as much trophies as it should have deserved in the past. Therefore, I hope a final Bulgaria-Italy and if we lose I'll be happy anyway for a nation which deserve a title (obviously I'd rather a victory by Italy, but against Bulgaria I wouldn't be so sad if we don't win) -
is this a balkan thing? crovolley thinks everybody hates CRO, deian thinks we hate BUL. just because sometimes we don't pay attention, doesn't mean we are disrespecting a team.
i never thought i'd hate a coach more than rezende, but heynen has taken that prize now...
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i never thought i'd hate a coach more than rezende, but heynen has taken that prize now...
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The final standings up to the fifth place have been announced. I do not know which criteria have been applied because it is clearly not based on the results from the quarterfinals. Poland finished 5th (organizer of the 2017 European Championship), Russia 6th (qualify for the next ECH), Serbia 7th (qualify for the next ECH), Germany 8th. The Germans will have to enter the qualification rounds. Another interesting piece of information came out on the Russian volleyball media volleyservice.ru - link. Obviously the Russians have ended their worst European campaign. Even as USSR they had not recorded a worse finish, thus making this 6th place the worst in their entire history. Previously they had achieved two 5th places as Russia at the 1995 and 1997 ECHs (and didn't participate at the first ECH in 1948 ).
Where is it announced other than wikipedia? I couldnt find it. It seems it is based on the results from the group stage + quarter finals.
I think Asian championship format is better and safer (mean teams choose their quarter final opponent by the result they get in the second group stage) than European one. -
Where is it announced other than wikipedia? I couldnt find it. It seems it is based on the results from the group stage + quarter finals.
I think Asian championship format is better and safer (mean teams choose their quarter final opponent by the result they get in the second group stage) than European one.
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I cant see any negative thing about Bulgaria here, someone thinks that France is stronger or likes France so says a Final with France is perfect. Where is sth against Bulgaria in these sentences?And sth to Yavor, even if we think Bulgaria has improved a lot since WL, we should look at their opponent, France. Only one team beat them this year and among their victims is Bulgaria in the WL2 final in Bulgaria. So it is completely natural for people, coaches and expert to predict France in final. And these are named predictions which can be wrong, people are not Nostradamus.
I have nothing against Bulgaria. I just like how France is playing this year and IMO they deserve to be in the final. I hope against Slovenia.
Bulgaria, with so many injuries, be in semifinal is something very valuable. And if Bulgaria win the game saturday i will not be sad, especially because of Vladimir Nikolov.
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is this a balkan thing? crovolley thinks everybody hates CRO, deian thinks we hate BUL. just because sometimes we don't pay attention, doesn't mean we are disrespecting a team.
i never thought i'd hate a coach more than rezende, but heynen has taken that prize now...

I liked Heynen when he began his work in Germany. He tried new players and had some good results. But after WCh i think he starts to think that he and his team is better than they are. Maybe after ECh he will be back to reality.
He is still a good coach and can lead Germany to another level, just needs to focus more on his work.
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is this a balkan thing? crovolley thinks everybody hates CRO, deian thinks we hate BUL. just because sometimes we don't pay attention, doesn't mean we are disrespecting a team.
A very "delicate" case. Balkans consists of small countries and big nations. People can feel neglected there since there are still many legends about them with an emphasis on the adjective "wild". Mostly if someone didn't get to know sth tends to base on the stories instead of taking this effort and see for oneself.
Bulgarian team had very tough couple of last years and didn't manage to achieve medal though being very close almost every time. And I see people tend to laugh at them that they're pemanent citizens of fourth place and stuff. Somehow hurts since in a very early start of my interest in volleyball I considered this team as really powerful and always ready to win with the best (in times when I was frustrated like hell that we can't get a single win over Brazil they did it, like during WL 2006 and 2007 and yeah I know both editions won Brazil but I can also remember Bulgaria was the only one that beated them in finals). Now Bulgaria is different team having its problem and still trying to refer to its volleyball traditions. As long as they're fighting I will be standing behind them and they will be always my second pick in every tournament which Poland already leave.
As for Croatia unfortunately the thing is that we can't get to know this team closer since there are very little occasions for this. Remember? Easy to get the impression that people don't like sth they don't know well. And successes are quite a big driving machine to attract the fans. Honestly speaking I really bet Croatia will advance from group stage and I feel so sorry for Omrcen because as for such a great player this wasn't the happiest farewell with NT.
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Volleyball.it announced it. I tend to believe them.
Thanks a lot! Based on what they wrote there their ranking is almost correct, but has a mistake in placing Netherlands above Belgium, it must be vice versa due to set's ratio. -
Bulgaria, with so many injuries, be in semifinal is something very valuable. And if Bulgaria win the game saturday i will not be sad, especially because of Vladimir Nikolov.
I completly agree. Despite his venerable age, Nikolow is always present for his NT.
But I like Ivanov and Salparov too. In fact whatever the winner, I will always have a reason to be happy.
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Travica must be the biggest fan of France right now
Or the biggest Giani fans

Speaking of Giani, after almost thirty years with the Azzurri, for the first time in is life he will play against Italy... It's kinda moving for me!
An year ago he was in the NT and his only hope was for Italy to play well and achieve smth, and now he has to be the one responsable for stopping our dreams... And we have to hope he won't succeed, while I would love to wish him the best
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It was a beautiful love story between Zaytsev and Travica but I love sad endings

Travica must be the biggest fan of France right now
I hope he actually didn't say it. I'm the first one who doesn't like Travica as player and considers him as the weakest link wherever he plays, but they were supposed to be good friends and from a friend I expect more diplomacy, not a direct answear which says what everybody knows, Giannelli (and we could say the same for Baranowicz, Falaschi, Coscione, Sottile and so on) improved the team taking Dragano's place. I hope he didn't say so. If he did, I wouldn't like him both for his attitude on court and for his personality outside. As a player I have nothing to say. I would see him as a traitor as well. But who cares? He won't for sure.

FORZA SLOVENIA, forza Giani!

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is this a balkan thing? crovolley thinks everybody hates CRO, deian thinks we hate BUL. just because sometimes we don't pay attention, doesn't mean we are disrespecting a team.
i never thought i'd hate a coach more than rezende, but heynen has taken that prize now...
It is probably a general Balkan thing

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It is probably a general Balkan thing

Exactly
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It is probably a general Balkan thing

I believe it is called inferiority complex
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there's something in the way that atanasijevic screams and complains to referees that reminds me of bruno rezende, maybe that's why i can't stand him… seems really obnoxious.
where is nikic?
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there's something in the way that atanasijevic screams and complains to referees that reminds me of bruno rezende, maybe that's why i can't stand him… seems really obnoxious.
where is nikic?
Grbic wrongly doesn't care about Nikic, I said wrongly because Serbia would need so much a receiver and digger like him