It's a weird day for Brazil when Murilo is our worst receiver. Gotta give props to Lipe though, he entered really well. His reception also seems better this year so far too.
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Italy-Brazil 3-2. Ok we won despite a bad Travica (as usual) and a bad referee. By the way I can't wait to see Osmany as OH and to see again Ivan as OPP, which is his real position.
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yay 3-0 against USA
not that bad for an overrated team 
I think Sander and co will comeback stronger for Sunday match, it was their first match in Tehran and I think they never played in such atmosphere before.
Another huge impression by Iranian spectators and hope it works for the second match too. Americans had 21 serve errors! I was in the stadium and when you go there you will have earache for some days!
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yay 3-0 against USA
not that bad for an overrated team Who said that Iran is overrated? Actually I think it's underrated (just like France).
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Italy-Brazil 3-2. Ok we won despite a bad Travica (as usual) and a bad referee. By the way I can't wait to see Osmany as OH and to see again Ivan as OPP, which is his real position.
Don't be so sure that with the arrive of Osmany Berruto will put Ivan back in his best position...
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Who said that Iran is overrated? Actually I think it's underrated (just like France).
There are many people also in this forum saying that. however It is natural since Iran haven't won any medal, but after wining some medals its position in strong teams will be tightened. and also it is a reaction to the emotional behaviour of some Iran fans in websites and social networks that think Marouf and Mousavi are the bests of the volleyball history! I myself think Iran rank is 6 or 7 and trying to enter first 5.
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Anzani and Lanza were feeling the hell out of the old Italian spirit playing against Brazil today, weren't they?
Birarelli was the best one from the Italians today for me. It's like Brazil had never played against his serves before.
Reception was pretty lackluster overall in the Brazilian side, with Murilo having an off day. Bruno started terribly, but once he forgot he wasn't playing for Modena and that Lucarelli wouldn't score those crazy balls like Ngapeth does, he got better. As always, the team lacks a decisive player. I hope Rapha can play as starter in the next game to see what he can do. -
Who said that Iran is overrated? Actually I think it's underrated (just like France).
some people here and there including Vital Heynen but nevermind I was mostly kidding, They are free to have their opinion -
There are many people also in this forum saying that. however It is natural since Iran haven't won any medal, but after wining some medals its position in strong teams will be tightened. and also it is a reaction to the emotional behaviour of some Iran fans in websites and social networks that think Marouf and Mousavi are the bests of the volleyball history! I myself think Iran rank is 6 or 7 and trying to enter first 5.
I don't like many Iran's fans in other websites (particularly on youtube and worldofvolley) who consider their team the best in the world and even the best of all times without respect for the history of this sport. Nevertheless noone who knows something about volleyball can say that Iran is overrated. We are talking about s very good team. Marouf and Mousavi would be in the line-up of almost every national teams in the world, and perhaps Ghaemi too
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World league group 1 statistics is wrong. they haven't counted First two matches of USA-IRAN. Anderson is 106 in scores not 76 and Mahmoudi is 95 not 78.
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I'm happy for Italy's win over Brazil, but I think (as also Birarelli said) that the team must go on and still work. It has been a positive thing, they showed good game and fighting spirit but they did nothing... Summer is long, lots of hard matches still to go, let's hope they keep improving!
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Speaking of fighting spirit, I am sure, there was a big boost in the individual effort plays by the Italians, those which are more about will-power and instincts than technique or team play. Motivations play a big role at this point in the summer, and the opponent and the atmosphere definitely helped.
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I don't like many Iran's fans in other websites (particularly on youtube and worldofvolley) who consider their team the best in the world and even the best of all times without respect for the history of this sport. Nevertheless noone who knows something about volleyball can say that Iran is overrated. We are talking about s very good team. Marouf and Mousavi would be in the line-up of almost every national teams in the world, and perhaps Ghaemi too
I could only catch the first few rallies of the match. You could see before Holts first serve, that he was really afraid not to hear referees whistle
.According to stats, serve/reception was absolutely on low standard for the US team. With a day off now and having wittnessed the athmosphere already once, I assume that they will do better tomorrow.
Like Mamdani, i am slightly annoyed by reading posts of iranian users on other websites, it is often over the top. But saying this, i really do appreciate your guys contribution here on this forum.
Overall, the Iranian team doesn't have to prove anymore that they belong to the worlds best, but they should really concentrate now on major tournanemts and reaching a medal there. That would end discussions about being overrated/underrated immediately.
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Like Mamdani, i am slightly annoyed by reading posts of iranian users on other websites, it is often over the top. But saying this, i really do appreciate your guys contribution here on this forum.
Overall, the Iranian team doesn't have to prove anymore that they belong to the worlds best, but they should really concentrate now on major tournanemts and reaching a medal there. That would end discussions about being overrated/underrated immediately.
I think that for a NT like Iran which doesn't have a gold medal in the important competitions yet, would be cheering for the future a victory of the WL, even if we all know that among the best competitions is the less relevant. However I hope they won't, not because I consider disagreeable Iran (on the contrary I like their passion and their players), but because Iranians would become unbearable and would annoy us for years and years
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I think that for a NT like Iran which doesn't have a gold medal in the important competitions yet, would be cheering for the future a victory of the WL, even if we all know that among the best competitions is the less relevant. However I hope they won't, not because I consider disagreeable Iran (on the contrary I like their passion and their players), but because Iranians would become unbearable and would annoy us for years and years
Yes, Iranian internet users are famous for doing crazy things, they had many internet attacks on famous people profiles like Messi, Zaytsev and others when national teams encountered. When there is a poll on the internet in any subject and one side is Iranian, you can be sure they would be the winner. By the way I hope our volleyball growth continues and also other national teams become stronger to see more interesting competitions!
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yay 3-0 against USA
not that bad for an overrated team I think Sander and co will comeback stronger for Sunday match, it was their first match in Tehran and I think they never played in such atmosphere before.
Let me briefly enter the discussion. I am aware of what Iranians do in some forums as well, it is not pleasant indeed, and we are quite lucky that the Iranian users here are friendly and awesome
We've had problems with other nations. Actually, every country has had these internet/forum outbursts, so let's not dive into the topic. Iran are just as good as they are, surely among the world's top teams. I think we can appreciate their value and skills. However, to make that one last step is what makes good teams great. Iran is not the only team in shape (historically speaking) without a title, the list can be extended a bit, but thanks to those contenders we have amazing tournaments and games. Any sort of medal colour should be enough as a start. -
Interesting. I couldn't help but find myself in an awkward position here since I just posted that Iran in my mind in always somehow overrated (post #247 in this thread). And apparently now I'm a ignorant troll. Thank you very much for helping me recognize who I am.
I don't think it is too much a deal that Iran win a few World League matches. As everyone knows WL has less and less significance these days. And so far Iran has no solid performance in major events. They lost 12OGQ to Aussies. They lost 5/6 away matches in 14WL (when all three teams played with their first squad). In 14 WLFinals Iran beated only Brazil because that would've help Brazil eliminate Russia. And in WCH Iran practically lost all matches in the final round and ended 6th place. Now with such performance, hardly can I acknowledge Iran is one of the best teams in the world. All the top teams proved that they deserve that place by winning the major events. And if Iran are, as what the fans said, among the best teams, I look forward to their games in the World Cup this year.
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All the top teams proved that they deserve that place by winning the major events.
The value of a team is not indicated by the victories. For example, Serbia didn't win for 10 years (between 2001 and 2011), but at the time I considered it one of the best team in the world (with Miljkovic, Grbic, Geric etc.) and Bulgaria during Kaziyski/Nikolov era was a great team as well, even if they did not win. It's the same in all team sports (the most famous example in football is the Netherlands of Cruyff during the 70s, in basketball the great Croatia of Petrovic/Kukoc/Radja during the 90s).
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Interesting. I couldn't help but find myself in an awkward position here since I just posted that Iran in my mind in always somehow overrated (post #247 in this thread). And apparently now I'm a ignorant troll. Thank you very much for helping me recognize who I am.
I don't think it is too much a deal that Iran win a few World League matches. As everyone knows WL has less and less significance these days. And so far Iran has no solid performance in major events. They lost 12OGQ to Aussies. They lost 5/6 away matches in 14WL (when all three teams played with their first squad). In 14 WLFinals Iran beated only Brazil because that would've help Brazil eliminate Russia. And in WCH Iran practically lost all matches in the final round and ended 6th place. Now with such performance, hardly can I acknowledge Iran is one of the best teams in the world. All the top teams proved that they deserve that place by winning the major events. And if Iran are, as what the fans said, among the best teams, I look forward to their games in the World Cup this year.
Hahahahhaha, noo, Martee, it wasn't you, of course. You aren't and have never been a troll
It means that probably the word was used twice I am sorry, it wasn't meant for you and I didn't mean to offend you 
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The value of a team is not indicated by the victories. For example, Serbia didn't win for 10 years (between 2001 and 2011), but at the time I considered it one of the best team in the world (with Miljkovic, Grbic, Geric etc.) and Bulgaria during Kaziyski/Nikolov era was a great team as well, even if they did not win. It's the same in all team sports (the most famous example in football is the Netherlands of Cruyff during the 70s, in basketball the great Croatia of Petrovic/Kukoc/Radja during the 90s).
Therefore, even if Iran won't win, I consider it one of the best teams in the world right now.
I totally agree with Mamdani. His examples are great as well! The fact that Iran hasn't won a tournament or hasn't been on a podium yet doesn't mean they are not among the world's elite. Sure, they are not among the best 4 teams in the world, but I consider the top 6, 8, and maybe even 10 to be the world's elite. And Iran surely belongs there. Martee has a point, though - you need medals and wins. To the example of Bulgaria I would also add Granvorka and Antiga's France, for they were also among the world's best even without a title. But the small margin for the time being between those is the silver and respectively bronze medals France and Bulgaria could win in these periods. This is exactly what hinders some people from welcoming Iran to the top nations. Until then everyone can decide for himself/herself whether Iran is strong enough, but one thing is for sure - they need some medals. To me as well, the Iranians are one of the best teams nowadays.