Dutch NT 2015

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Since you are from Turkey, could you tell me about Pietersen's performance in Trabzon?

her performance isn't bad in overall but her performance wasn't good against top teams.

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Schoot is a decent libero...but no topplayer of course.

About middles: both Beliën and Steenbergen are not at Robin's level of course. Beliën played a very good season in Schwerin and she will develop further (she is only 21 years old) but she has not Robin's height and power. She is more like Caroline Wensink.

I really think Plak will play opposite, because the others (Flier, Pietersen and Sloetjes) have much less power.

Since you are from Turkey, could you tell me about Pietersen's performance in Trabzon?

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to be honest, i didnt watch many matches of Idmanocağı...i watched just one or two matches in which Pietersen was playing and she was not bad...but as i said i didnt/couldnt watch Pietersen much therefore it would be wrong to express a certain opinion about her..i think she doesnt seem to lead her team on high level as opp but when the offence is shared balancedly ( amongst a few players) then she may contribute..

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She is indeed no typical 'leading' opposite...especially against the world-class teams from Istanbul, I can imagine she had a very hard time. She benefits from fast sets.

Finally the list released.

But still no Meijners，Kathy Bonsen，Jeanine Stoeten and Carljin Jans.

I agree that Plak is an excellent spiker and can develop better but I hope she stays as OH, because she has the potential to be a good one pretty soon. 1,90cm tall and quite decent reception and she's only 20

About Flier : She's basically never been good in club recently, after getting older and physical degradation she's no longer a leading OPP. So, probably she wasn't convincing in Chinese league either.

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I agree that Plak is an excellent spiker and can develop better but I hope she stays as OH, because she has the potential to be a good one pretty soon. 1,90cm tall and quite decent reception and she's only 20

About Flier : She's basically never been good in club recently, after getting older and physical degradation she's no longer a leading OPP. So, probably she wasn't convincing in Chinese league either.

Flier is a player that needs to be strong and always to be working hard at the gym. The physical part is very important for her as I player. Since she went to Japan, (for money by the way) she lost it a lot. When Garay played there, she said that the focus is on training on court and the physical part is not that important in Japan, mainly because they have more technical than strong players.

After the terrible season, she made a lot of bad choices choosing her teams. Anyway, past is past. As far as I know, she wasn't brilliant in China, but she was good. Flier and Ocasio were the only scorers from the team, so she had a lot os responsability and she did it ok during the season (I was looking at some translated stats )


I hope to see Flier as a leader and helping the team in attack. She's one of my favorite players.

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Flier is a player that needs to be strong and always to be working hard at the gym. The physical part is very important for her as I player. Since she went to Japan, (for money by the way) she lost it a lot. When Garay played there, she said that the focus is on training on court and the physical part is not that important in Japan, mainly because they have more technical than strong players.

After the terrible season, she made a lot of bad choices choosing her teams. Anyway, past is past. As far as I know, she wasn't brilliant in China, but she was good. Flier and Ocasio were the only scorers from the team, so she had a lot os responsability and she did it ok during the season (I was looking at some translated stats )


I hope to see Flier as a leader and helping the team in attack. She's one of my favorite players.

I agree. Flier is one of bad examples regarding club transfers. Molnar's level also dropped a lot after one season in Japan, she even got an injury so she barely could hit afterwards. I think it's all about money or exotic stuff but personally I don't understand why european players dare decide to play in Asia Especially in Korea or Japan, they need to be capable of scoring more than 50 points, no wonder why their physical condition drops out dramatically...

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I agree. Flier is one of bad examples regarding club transfers. Molnar's level also dropped a lot after one season in Japan, she even got an injury so she barely could hit afterwards. I think it's all about money or exotic stuff but personally I don't understand why european players dare decide to play in Asia Especially in Korea or Japan, they need to be capable of scoring more than 50 points, no wonder why their physical condition drops out dramatically...

I don't know if it is the same in China and mainly in Korea. Joycinha played in Korea for the last seasons and she said that the physical part is a focus mainly for the foreign player, because they are always being used by the setters. I think it is only in Japan! Some japanese, korean and chinese friend could enlight me, please?

I think that players usually decide to sign for money (and they are not wrong, because it is also a professional stuff), but Flier had a lot of good options in Italy after playing for Pesaro, and I think that staying in the country that she played for so many years could be the smartest choice in an olympic year. After that, she could try something new.

I disagree about your point of view about europeans playing in Asia... I think that it is not the fact of being european or brazilian or african or american, it is more than this. It depends on the player. Garay was awesome playing for NEC Red Rockets, because she was already a very strong player and her physical form is enviable. But in Flier's case, it is always up and down when we think about physical part.

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@ Joana

Celeste looks like a middle school girl And it's nice to see Debby back, she obviously wouldn't make a huge difference to the team, but leastwise can contribute to the team especially in reception. If she shows the stable reception and defense that she used to demonstrate, why not her in stead of Knip or Schoot

They released today the Nt site, its really cool!

http://nederlandsdamesvolleybalteam.nl/

This site looks pretty cool and have a good concept.

Montreux: 14 selected -

Setters: Laura Dijkema, Femke Stoltenborg;
Opp: Judith Pietersen, Lonneke Sloetjes;
OH: Anne Buijs, Maret Grothues, Celeste Plak, Nicole Oude Luttikhuis;
MB: Robin de Kruijf, Yvon Beliën, Quinta Steenbergen, Nicole Koolhaas;
L: Myrthe Schoot, Debby Stam-Pilon.

http://www.volleybalkrant.nl/n…huis#.VV9K-Ng356c.twitter

If google translator worked well , 90% of this group will also play the European Games. Manon Flier will keep training in Papendal, but she will be absent of Montreux and Baku Games.