Brazilian NT 2018 - who deserves the spot?

  • I don't think she is NT material. And she is not young anymore.
    And before someone says that Lara is also not NT material, I agree with that, but one thing does not exclude the other.


    I agree that neither Mayhara and Lara are NT material, especially because we do have many high level MB, although we should stop mentioning this age thing in this forum... I usually get little unconfortable when reading such coments related to age... Mayhara is 29, same age as Lara, who's also 29. Pri Daroit and Tássia are almost 30, Claudinha turn 31 this year, and this are only a few examples. So,if you guys think that age is a relevant criteria, you should mention it for the whole roster and I will respect it.


    If age is a criteria for Ze to select players for Brazil NT, then Juciely, Dani Lins, Sheilla, Jaqueline (and the list is countless) would've been kicked out from NT many moons ago. IDK, but for me the criteria should always be the level of players' performance and if they have shown enough physical condition to handle with tiring competitions such as VNL. An example is Walewska: she's 39 and still plays way better than the MB that are in VNL for example. If she wanted she could keep playing for Brazil because even being 39 she does have an enviable physical form.


    We do have in Superliga many players with good level (of course not for the NT), hence this excludes the participation of youngsters, that are usually benched or do not even play the league. So, unfortunately, our best players are not the youngest ones. For me there is such a lack of criteria for Ze to call Ellen, Maira and other players that are younger but worse than other locals, which is the case of Mayhara and Mari Paraiba for me. NT should be the representation of our country's best players.


    PS: This coment is more a discussion that I wanted to bring into this forum than a direct answer of your coments! Just clarifying :)



  • Age should never be a problem in my opinion. That's not what I meant to say. IMO Thaisa, Dani Lins, Fe Garay should still be in the NT even if they have pasted their "prime age" already. I trust that they are still some of our best players.
    When I said that Mayhara is not NT material, it's because considering that we have 3, 4 or 5 MBs better than her right now (I'm counting Thaisa in this group), I don't think there is any point on calling her. About her age, I only said that because this is a current subject on Brazilian social network. The fans keep saying "Ze should call young players so that they get experience, etc".
    About Ze's criteria, I don't think he has to prove anything to the public.

  • Age should never be a problem in my opinion. That's not what I meant to say. IMO Thaisa, Dani Lins, Fe Garay should still be in the NT even if they have pasted their "prime age" already. I trust that they are still some of our best players.
    When I said that Mayhara is not NT material, it's because considering that we have 3, 4 or 5 MBs better than her right now (I'm counting Thaisa in this group), I don't think there is any point on calling her. About her age, I only said that because this is a current subject on Brazilian social network. The fans keep saying "Ze should call young players so that they get experience, etc".
    About Ze's criteria, I don't think he has to prove anything to the public.

  • Pan-American Cup roster
    S: Claudinha, Dani Lins, Juma;
    OPP: Bruna Honório, Ana Paula Borgo;
    OH: Edinara, Ellen, Kasiely, Pri Daroit, Maira;
    MB: Thaisa, Mara, Lara Nobre, Milka, Francynnne;
    L: Tássia, Natinha.


    OHs Ellen, Kasiely and Pri Daroit dropped out.
    Gabi Candido (from SESI) and Fernanda Tomé (from Sao Caetano) are called in replacement.

  • i hope she will be in the 5n1 inversions.


    Fernanda tome is also good at reception..
    She can block as well. I hope. Ze develops a position that is only capable of blocking!!!!! We already have a serving specialist!!! A setter, a dominant opposite.. mbs on top of their opponent's level

  • i hope she will be in the 5n1 inversions.


    Fernanda tome is also good at reception..
    She can block as well. I hope. Ze develops a position that is only capable of blocking!!!!! We already have a serving specialist!!! A setter, a dominant opposite.. mbs on top of their opponent's level

    I don't know but I think you might be mentioning another Fernanda or another player, because Fernanda Tomé is very weak both in reception and defense. And to be honest, she's just an OK blocker...

  • nope she is good at reception...


    Ze might be haing her as a blocker in front when brazil serves... with her height but i dont know.. she is too green...


    With the b team in the pan americano cup, im seeing dani lins and claudinha but i think claudinha deserves to be starter!! We will see


    Bruna as titular
    Edinara as oh
    Gabi candido is also awesome at reception!!!!


    Im liking tassia to be libero of brazil as well but suelen has better sets!!!

  • Rosamaria should be the 4th OH or 2nd Opp. Monique's performance against the best teams was disappointing. She's just a good server and Brazil already have Amanda for it when you need a serving substitution. Ze should frankly cultivate Rosamaria'a confidence back. He's not giving her the playing the playing time and it's just keeping her out of sync with her teammates.


    Macris is also disappointing. Her performance is giving Dani Lins a path to the WCH without even stepping in the court yet.


    I wish Ze gave Naiane the opportunity. He just gave up on her after she went to another team. That sounds like politics to me.

    Favorite players: M: Maxim Mikhaylov, Murilo, Serginho, Aaron Russell, Otavio, Simone Giannelli, Ivan Zaytsev, Tsvetan Sokolov, Michał Kubiak, Mariusz Wlazly, Pawel Zagummy W: Sheilla, Zhu Ting, Natalia, Fe Garay, Fofao, Gabi, Thaisa, Foluke Akinradewo, Wei Qiuyue, Ding Xia, Carli Lloyd, Fabi, Natalia Goncharova, Yuko Sano, Saoris Kimura and Sakoda

  • i agree she doesnt have plenty of play time... monique should be out... her serves are not that good as well...


    Tandara as titular rosamaria as opposite
    Roberta and claudinha in the inversions...


    Natalia, amanda, gabi drussyla
    Suelen
    Ade bia carol

  • Rosamaria should be the 4th OH or 2nd Opp. Monique's performance against the best teams was disappointing. She's just a good server and Brazil already have Amanda for it when you need a serving substitution. Ze should frankly cultivate Rosamaria'a confidence back. He's not giving her the playing the playing time and it's just keeping her out of sync with her teammates.


    Macris is also disappointing. Her performance is giving Dani Lins a path to the WCH without even stepping in the court yet.


    I wish Ze gave Naiane the opportunity. He just gave up on her after she went to another team. That sounds like politics to me.

    Monique is useless and I've been saying this since 2013. She's good for Superliga, mainly because in teams she plays she's never the main attack reference (for example, in Rio it's always been Gabi's, Natalia's, Drussyla's, Buijs' responsabilities to attack). I also think that Rosamaria as OPP could be a greater option, although she has not done anything good in NT this year. She's not able to kill a single ball, and she's struggling on that since Superliga's playoffs.


    About Macris, I agree as well. But I disagree about the lack of opportunities she's having in NT. Even against very weak teams, she had no chances to play as starter, and for a setter it is reaaaallly important to have some opportunities to play in order to get a better conections with attackers. It is clear for me that Ze wants to invest on Roberta and Dani Lins will have her spot for sure (actually, I never thought that Ze would cut her from WCH).

  • Monique is useless and I've been saying this since 2013. She's good for Superliga, mainly because in teams she plays she's never the main attack reference (for example, in Rio it's always been Gabi's, Natalia's, Drussyla's, Buijs' responsabilities to attack). I also think that Rosamaria as OPP could be a greater option, although she has not done anything good in NT this year. She's not able to kill a single ball, and she's struggling on that since Superliga's playoffs.


    About Macris, I agree as well. But I disagree about the lack of opportunities she's having in NT. Even against very weak teams, she had no chances to play as starter, and for a setter it is reaaaallly important to have some opportunities to play in order to get a better conections with attackers. It is clear for me that Ze wants to invest on Roberta and Dani Lins will have her spot for sure (actually, I never thought that Ze would cut her from WCH).

    she has been best scorer for Rexona / SESC RJ tho.

  • imho, Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to help Tandara....Brazil doenst have an OH like Jaque anymore (big loss) but Natalia is the best amongst all the options considering Garay wont be back..Amanda is not bad but doenst seem to be enough as a starter but could be good for the bench and can play in some moments..Rosamaria is a better attacker than Amanda but its a problem how to use her due to her passing..Brazilian Mbs are very good blockers : Bia-Ade and Carol but we have to admit that they are offensively not a Fabina or Thaisa..this means Roberta will give many balls to the wings so you have to have very good wings to handle it against world's best teams

  • imho, Brazil needs a healthy Natalia to help Tandara....Brazil doenst have an OH like Jaque anymore (big loss) but Natalia is the best amongst all the options considering Garay wont be back..Amanda is not bad but doenst seem to be enough as a starter but could be good for the bench and can play in some moments..Rosamaria is a better attacker than Amanda but its a problem how to use her due to her passing..Brazilian Mbs are very good blockers : Bia-Ade and Carol but we have to admit that they are offensively not a Fabina or Thaisa..this means Roberta will give many balls to the wings so you have to have very good wings to handle it against world's best teams

    but the thing here is this is just a first of the many tournaments brazil will play... ze is still making plays for some and some are already holders. So this is just a thing to study....


    Tandara titular
    Bia ade titular
    Roberta with dani lins as titular...


    Oh is really the problem but is rosamaria will be moved to opp so tandara wil be oh along with natalia.. reception might be problem.. if natalia is opposite and tandar oh with garay or jaque or gabi then brazil will have the chance..