Mediterranean Games - Tarragona 2018

  • well, it’s very unfortunate all the political issues, not to mention the war ... but also at least two bosnian players play for TUR, ismailoglu and matic (in the men’s team).


    There's also Adis Lagumdžija on the men's team.


    I guess those are Muslim? So they joined Turkey.


    Well, at least judging by their names, Ismailoglu/Smajlović and Lagumdžija are, Matić probably not. But I believe it has much more to do with them being scouted and signed by Turkish clubs at a young age than with their religious beliefs.

  • Bosnia would have great NT if Boskovic, Smajlovic (Ismaioglu), Mihajlovic and Begic would play for them.


    well, they would still be missing a good setter, 2 MBs, libero...


    if i may be miss universe for a moment, i'd say it's my dream that BIH would have a unified olympic team in all sports of bosnyaks, croats and serbs. [but as we just saw in the FIFA WC (SRB x SWI), that's a dream 'cause of all the political/ethnic issues...]


    does anyone know why the other boskovic sister decided to stay in BIH?


    the same could be said of UKR -- they'd have a great team if rahimova (born in UZB but of ukrainian parents), natalya mammadova, samadova (she's from UKR, right?), not to mention rykhlyuk, would play for UKR team...

  • [quote='Mimek','index.php?page=Thread&postID=371057#post371057']Bosnia would have great NT if Boskovic, Smajlovic (Ismaioglu), Mihajlovic and Begic would play for them.


    if i may be miss universe for a moment, i'd say it's my dream that BIH would have a unified olympic team in all sports of bosnyaks, croats and serbs. [but as we just saw in the FIFA WC (SRB x SWI), that's a dream 'cause of all the political/ethnic issues...]
    Yeah, I just found out what Shaqiri and Xhaka's gestures meant after they'd scored the goal. I really don't like that. There's also Mario Gavranović and Haris Seferović who are both of Bosnian origin. Poor Serbia, they're defeated pratically by their own people. :cursing:


    I know it's OFF-TOPIC, but I just felt like sharing my opinions about this.

  • well, i wish it was easier to find results and rosters, and videos of this competition.


    ALG losing easily to SLO? i remember ALG lost to GBR in the london 2012 olympics. i guess they haven't improved much all those years... either that or SLO is really good.

  • Croatia beat France 3:1 (22:25, 25:19, 25:21, 25:19) Best scorer: Samanta Fabris 26 points (She played as OH)


    In last match against Albania Samanta Fabris needed to scorer 23(66%attack) points in just 3sets to win. Croatia NT is very weak, next to Fabris We don't have no one. If you stop Fabris then We are over... :S

  • So does Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia speaks the same language?? I assumed Serbia/Bosnia did but I had no idea about Croatia.


    And I would assume Boskovic considers herself more a Bosnian than Serbian and she only picked to represent Serbia for obvious reasons as they have a much stronger NT? She probably lives in Bosnia? ...interesting that Dajana choose to represent Bosnia and not Serbia.


    I guess Fabris could have been a "Serbian" if she wanted to???


    Because Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia are all so small...they should just come together and become "1" country to represent when it comes down to sports. Same as Belgium/Netherlands.


    I still find fascinating that how smaller countries can still compete against bigger countries such as China,USA,Brazil....even Russia/Japan are considered small if compared to them (based on population).

    Yes, they are.
    The population of Bosnia and Herzegovina consists of Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims), Serbs and Croats. Most Bosnian Serbs and Croats look up to Serbia and Croatia as their homeland rather than Bosnia. And the majority of Serbian and Croatian athletes from Bosnia would rather represent Serbia and Croatia if they have the opportunity to do so. It basically happens in every single sport.


  • And I would assume Boskovic considers herself more a Bosnian than Serbian and she only picked to represent Serbia for obvious reasons as they have a much stronger NT? She probably lives in Bosnia? ...interesting that Dajana choose to represent Bosnia and not Serbia.


    I'd say it's the other way around and her sister is playing for Bosnia because she's not being called up to Serbian NT.
    Tijana has stated many times before that representing Serbia has always been her dream and that getting Serbian passport was one of the happiest moments of her life.


    I don't understand your question about Fabris. I guess in theory she could declare herself a Serbian and apply for Serbian citizenship, like basically every person in the world could, but she's not going to do that because she's not Serbian. Unlike Bošković, who is.


    Serbian and Croatian are very similar languages, yes, almost 100% mutually intelligible. Before the break-up of former Yugoslavia, they used to be known as one language, Serbo-Croatian.


  • Well, I understand what you really mean saying about if Fabris was Serbian one. Well, maybe you just mean Russia have players from Belorussia and Ukraine but it is something different because Kosheleva, Goncharova, Fateeva, Somoilenko and etc. players. But they started playing in Russian superliga at youth ages. Also, Ukraine and Belorussia are not willing to improve volleyball, they move to Russian Superliga because they have hopes if they become strong players Russia will give them a chance to play in NT. It is like if Akinradewo played volleyball in Canada NT, she will never get gold medal of WCH. Ukrainian and Belorussian players that's why they try to move Russia, other way Kosheleva will not get one gold medal of WCH, two gold medal of ECH with Belorussia. I guess Fabris's situation is different if she was born in Serbia maybe she would be Serbian player. Serbian and Croatian people are similar but I don't think Croatian are willing to play in Serbian NT or Serbian are willing to play in Croatia NT. Their situation is different IMO. Maybe we will see such things in future Idk if to be honest. Being Slavic doesn't matter lol I think every player wants to play in their NT, if you are Slavic and you can play in other Slavic NT lol I never thought such things. Bosnian players' situations are different their NT is weak and that's why Boskovic, Mihailovic, Meliha Smajlovic play in different countries NT. Strong players most time choose NT which they can get the good result at the end. Neither Goncharova nor Kosheleva would get gold medal of WCH and ECH if they didn't choose Russian NT. Croatia NT were strong before I heard about Croatia from Gratcheva which Croatia got silver medal of ECH three times, when Kirilova, Osmokrovic played in Croatia. Every person is different and I am half Polish, half Russian if I was strong volleyball player and Russian NT gave me a chance and I surely choose Russian NT because you can succeed more in Russian NT and also I was born in Russia, living in Russia. Even if I lived or was born in other country I surely choose Russian NT, because you know you have a hope you can succeed in WCH or ECH. But some players I do know they don't think about such things they do prefer their NT it doesn't matter their NT is weak or not

  • Another things I want to talk it's all about Kosheleva and Goncharova, maybe people from different countries don't know such things. Mostly if your surname ends with ov or ova you are Russian or your origin is Russian, if your surname mostly ends "ko" like Somoilenko you are Ukrainian or your origin is from Ukraine and that's why I think Goncharova and Kosheleva can be Russian origin Ukrainian and Belorussian but I can't say 100 percent they two are Russian origin, they can be. We do know there are a lot of Russian or Russian origin live in Ukraine and Belorussia. And the same thing with Russia too, there are plenty of people with Ukrainian or Belorussian origin or from these countries but they consider themself as Russian ones. For example Zaryazhko can be Ukrainian origin with Russia born. Maybe her family roots came from there. It is something you can't say accurate things Russian and Ukrainian people mixed a lot, there are plenty of people with Ukrainian mother or Russian father or Russian mother Ukrainian father or Ukrainian grandfather etc... Also Belorussia, Ukraine and Russia lived together during SSR and that's why I think this relationship was getting closer during years. Anyway, Russia is a big country it also affect decision of some players from Ukraine and Belorussia to choose Russian NT. Anyway, Goncharova and Kosheleva can be like Voronkova, Fetisova, Shcherban which all of these players were born in different countries Turkey, Spain, Kirgiz and it didnt make you foreigner. Not all "ov" and "ova" is considered as Russian surname. Bulgarian peoples' surnames mostly ends ov and ova too. Russia is also a big country you can find plenty of people with different root like Polyakova (maybe Polish root), Sperskaite (maybe sister of Sorokaite lol Idk), Yattara (sister of Yattara lol) Alimova (maybe turkish or tatar or muslim origin idk) and etc...there are plenty of such things lol you do not need to be stuck in ;)

  • Thanks for responding guys.... and yeah I did mention Fabris because if she had decided to play for Serbia she would have had much more success than playing for Croatia. She certainly would be Boskovic`s backup right now over Bjelica... and maybe even in Rio over Brakocevic.

  • Thanks for responding guys.... and yeah I did mention Fabris because if she had decided to play for Serbia she would have had much more success than playing for Croatia. She certainly would be Boskovic`s backup right now over Bjelica... and maybe even in Rio over Brakocevic.


    I guess that Croatian is not willing to play in Serbian NT and Serbian is not willing to play in Croatian NT. Idk why but I think if they were willing to be together why they were not agreed with Yugoslavia and I think it shows they both want to be free and it's not only the thing player can choose, country also has to invite player for being part of NT. It's such question if player was born there or play their league or get invited and accept it or not depends on players. Fabris started her career in Croatian league and she doesnt have any bond with Serbian league or country and it's really tough question and I'm not proper one to answer. But I also recommend you to ask this question from crovolley , if he was a strong player like Fabris and Serbian NT invites him to play in Serbian NT and would he like to play in Serbian NT instead of Croatian NT? Lol

  • 4h Finals


    Croatia 3-1 Portugal
    (26-24, 16-25, 28-26, 25-20)
    https://tarragona2018-reports.…-QFNL000400--_C73_v1..pdf


    Turkey 3-1 Italy
    (22-25, 25-16, 25-16, 25-23)
    https://tarragona2018-reports.…-QFNL000300--_C73_v1..pdf


    Slovenia 2-3 France
    (11-25, 25-18, 25-23, 16-25, 7-15)
    https://tarragona2018-reports.…-QFNL000200--_C73_v1..pdf


    Greece 3-1 Spain
    (26-24, 18-25, 25-23, 28-26)
    https://tarragona2018-reports.…-QFNL000100--_C73_v1..pdf


    Semifinals:
    GRE - FRA
    TUR - CRO