2020 Olympic Games - qualification

  • please, serpetine system FIVB ranking.

  • Why are you lot arguing over a clickbait article?

    Literally none of the mainstream sport media reported this load of bollocks, yet somehow it turned into a race debate here :sos:

    Having said that, if it were to happen, obviously FIVB would call it "wild card slot" and give it to the federation who will pay the most money.

  • and let's also talk about this false narrative about 'diversity'. who is advocating for diversity? nobody. fivb rules are that each confederation is given one spot at the olympics -- it's about REPRESENTATION, not diversity. so there's one each from N. america, S. america, europe, asia and africa. all the people here that keep complaining about why is there an african team in the olympics miss the point. all 5 confederations are represented at the OG, that's it.


    if RUS is banned, why should their spot go to europe? europe is already represented at the OG (ITA and SRB, + winner of euro Q).


    i already said, if RUS is banned, i think they should have a world Q tournament, and the winner would probably be an european country. i don't have a problem with that, what i'm against is this assumption that it should automatically be an euro Q to replace RUS.


    anyhow, i doubt thomas bach will allow RUS to be banned, period.

  • Ossubtus claimed, earlier in the thread, "honestly, this whole discussion about european victimhood is pathetic". I believe I would not be wrong in thinking that many of you are thinking something along the same lines (you, Padar, Sydney etc.), yes? And that's okay. I quite understand your frustration, and can see how you arrived at that feeling of exasperation. But the fact is that feelings of resentment, building for years, from many European volleyball lovers exist (for many reasons that are beyond the point of this discussion). Is that feeling justified? Is it not all being oversensitive? It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that it exists.


    i sympathize with some of what you say. if you have read what i said elsewhere in these forums, you'd know that i think fivb mucks up the whole system of OQ. i think what they did in rio was criminal, and even worse on the men's side (4 teams from norceca????). but automatically giving RUS's spot to europe, like they own it, is pathetic, and the wrong solution, as i have already explained.

  • yes, cretin, just like in london...

    Hello 2012, 2019 is calling :aww:





    Korean NT without KYK is dead as Croatian without Barbara Jelic.

  • Hello 2012, 2019 is calling :aww:



    Korean NT without KYK is dead as Croatian without Barbara Jelic.


    KYK left the NT? I didn't know that!! :white:

  • I'm really wondering why people in this thread thinks European volleyball is so good(guess they're european). They never won gold in olympics since 1988(soviet union)🤗🤗. They have many stromg teams but strong teams are already qualified to Olympics. Plus turkey or netherlands(or other team) will be qualified more. What do you need more?? You guys could get 6 tickets from the internental qualification if you guys are strong enough. The pools are based on world rankings so it was fair that the pool was composed like that. You guys will automatially argue that russia would go olympics if korea qualified by winning russia and disqualified by doping issue. Don't be so short-sighted please and stop disregarding other cotinents...

  • I'm really wondering why people in this thread thinks European volleyball is so good(guess they're european). They never won gold in olympics since 1988(soviet union)🤗🤗. They have many stromg teams but strong teams are already qualified to Olympics. Plus turkey or netherlands(or other team) will be qualified more. What do you need more?? You guys could get 6 tickets from the internental qualification if you guys are strong enough. The pools are based on world rankings so it was fair that the pool was composed like that. You guys will automatially argue that russia would go olympics if korea qualified by winning russia and disqualified by doping issue. Don't be so short-sighted please and stop disregarding other cotinents...

    So you are good only if you are the champion, that's the criteria. Ok if that is your argument than I have nothing to say on that. : )


    I'm not disregarding personally any continent but you are disregarding literally everyone that wasn't first placed :lol::thumbup:


    Btw this is not me saying we need more European tickets, just responding to your post here, because I have seen this argument more often that Europe is not that good because there haven't been many champions.

  • Why is wrong to ask to watch one of the best players in the World, teams, who works much harder than other teams who gots their spot jsut because they are in Asia, Latin A or Africa???


    Best top 12 teams deserves to be at best competiton. Simple as that.

  • Europeans not being the champions in olympics that's not the point of my speech. You said korea wouldn't reach top 8 in european champiomship a day ago. Do you really think so?? In the most recent world class level competition korea won 6th place in this world cup, higher than the netherlands and serbia b. Do you think they wouldn't reach top 8 in european championship?? Sadly netherlands did..

    You did disregard other continents first

    Dont try to justify your hypocrisy please🤗

  • Korea didn't got olympic tickets just because they are in asia. They qualified for london in world qualificatuon tournament next to russia, placed 2nd. Also they got the first tickets for rio, and they played with their sub members after that.

    I agree that asia get priviliges because japan helds so many international competitions, but not only that can make semifinals in olympics.

  • No, Korea wouldn't reach top 8 in Europe.

  • really? how do you know that?

    Why is wrong to ask to watch one of the best players in the World, teams, who works much harder than other teams who gots their spot jsut because they are in Asia, Latin A or Africa???

    i know, europeans work so much harder than the rest of the world. it must be genetic. the master race.

  • Please!!

    We are all here for volleyball and it is very unreasonable to mention some thing which does not have anything with volleyball like the master race...and European pathetic.

    The point is that in Europe we have a lot of good teams and it is harder to play and have good postion o fivb list and i agree with that but i dont agree about some other thing and have my personaly opinion. Because that we are there to exchange our opinions and argue them but without valuations and politicization.

  • The amount and intensity of passion that this discussion (about a completely hypothetical scenario) can (and has) awoke is actually the best cautionary sign why this dilemma (should Russia indeed be banned) should NOT be resolved by just giving the spot to Korea, but by any of numerous other means discussed here and elsewhere (even if the end result still be Korea getting the ticket).