2020 Olympic Games - qualification

  • Result was unpredictable. One killing point and your comments should be opposite. Block was good from both sidetoday

    no my comment will be the same. today we saw that poland could get the match at 4th set. that is obvious. but turkish blocks did stop smarzek and stysiak before. even paralized. thats not about atmosphere of the hall. i said turkish victory is predictable because with paralized smarzek and stysiak poland won't have much chance for victory against to turkey.

  • Its an observation, not an opinion but Yes..I saw all of that. And you know what else I saw? Hesitations, break down of communication and lack of iniative at a very crucial point of the game. Poland is a good team with a chance and/or maybe on the verge of being a great one. But that aspect needs to be addressed for them to breakthrough.

    I saw some hesitation at Turkish team too but It doesn't change my opinion and observation both teams left heart on court. I'm proud of Polish team and their fight because as player I noticed huge progress in last year. Mistakes, lack of communication etc etc - nobody's perfect especially for such young players as Stysiak or libero. Turkey was clear favourite before tounament and nobody expected such equal match.

  • I'm thinking to go to the gym to watch the final alive. Do you guys think I can still find a ticket or are they all sold out?:teach:  Let's go orange  beri

  • I saw some hesitation at Turkish team too but It doesn't change my opinion and observation both teams left heart on court. I'm proud of Polish team and their fight because as player I noticed huge progress in last year. Mistakes, lack of communication etc etc - nobody's perfect especially for such young players as Stysiak or libero. Turkey was clear favourite before tounament and nobody expected such equal match.

    Didn't people already lose their hope after the big drama with the coach last month? Poland showed way better performance than anyone expected before tournament so kudos to them! And yes Smarzek played a bad game, which should also be attributed to great Turkish block and defense system which kept her under control. But this game doesn't change the fact that she is a great player and will lead this team other important successes!

  • https://www.volleybal.nl/tickets


    There is still some left, go get em sis

    Thanks! are you gonna be there as well?


    I am actually happy that I wasn't at the gym today, I was almost getting a heart attack in front of my computer, I can't imagine the stress level while watching this in the gym:white:

  • I saw some hesitation at Turkish team too but It doesn't change my opinion and observation both teams left heart on court. I'm proud of Polish team and their fight because as player I noticed huge progress in last year. Mistakes, lack of communication etc etc - nobody's perfect especially for such young players as Stysiak or libero. Turkey was clear favourite before tounament and nobody expected such equal match.

    i agree turkey was clear favourite against to polansd. that also makes the result predictable. isn't it?


    the reason for this equal match is about very poor meliha's attack performance. and at the same time lack of middle blockers attack. during whole tournament turkish middle blocker did not show such miserable attacking performance. and that cause such result which makes you proud..

  • Thanks! are you gonna be there as well?


    I am actually happy that I wasn't at the gym today, I was almost getting a heart attack in front of my computer, I can't imagine the stress level while watching this in the gym:white:

    I really wish I could go and watch it (+ we'd meet) but I work till 17:00 and then I still have to go to Apeldoorn... (+ I have finals for Uni tuesday)


    So I have to skip sadly.


    Btw I also almost bought em for today but thank god I havent :lol: that atmosphere looked great though

  • I am really really sorry for Poland and the Polish fans, my heart is with you, both teams did really deserve to be in the finals (as well as Germany), I am really thankful for such a great show. Meanwhile I really don't like the attitude of Wolosz, Smarzek and Stysiak. I always found Polish NT players very friendly and nice but this generation is not as nice as previous ones :)


    Congrats to Turkey! Boz carried the team today, I really liked that Hande stood up time to time and Eda was trying to be useful with her blocks while both setters tried to destroy her confidence in attacking. Simge did well in the end as well.


    For tomorrow's match, one big difference is, Turkey never played with this line-up against Germany in the group stage. Guidetti tried Hande as receiving opposite and Ebrar as OH for the first 2 sets which turned out terrible. So tomorrow's match can look very different than the group stage.

  • I really wish I could go and watch it (+ we'd meet) but I work till 17:00 and then I still have to go to Apeldoorn... (+ I have finals for Uni tuesday)


    So I have to skip sadly.


    Btw I also almost bought em for today but thank god I havent :lol: that atmosphere looked great though

    Bummer! I have a volleyball game myself tomorrow in Utrecht, I hope I will be able to make it:super:


    Hit me up if anyone else from this forum will be in the gym tomorrow, we can have an inside-volley banner:rolll:

  • Meanwhile I really don't like the attitude of Wolosz, Smarzek and Stysiak. I always found Polish NT players very friendly and nice but this generation is not as nice as previous ones :)

    What did they do?

  • Malwina is getting a lot of hate on social media omg.

  • meanwhile CAN gave DOM some trouble in the 2nd set but now the caribbean queens have recovered and it’s 2-1 DOM. earlier PUR beat MEX 3-0, so it looks like it’ll be another clash tomorrow between the two caribbean rivals for the ticket to the OG.

  • Malwina is getting a lot of hate on social media omg.

    Definitely because of her political posts at Ech 2019. Turkish people really didn't like her mentioning big ancient wars in 2019 in a sports match.


    I always say you have to be 2x as careful with what you post when you're a public figure, especially political posts... It will not be received well and people won't easily forget.


    Stysiak on the other hand doesn't get that hate and even a lot of respect for example.

  • Yikes this is so complicated. So is volleyball switching to a Elo system entirely?


    Seriously, world cup having less weight than VNL?

    VNL is annual and hence more frequent. World Cup is not as important because it may not be an Olympic Qualifying event in the future.

  • I believe this is wrong.

    If you lost by more service errors, it is a narrative.

    If you set someone a ton and they don’t score, it is a narrative.

    Would the narrative be that the service errors were into the net or that they were trying to serve aggressively and did keep the opponent on their heels but they just let a few go through and out of bounds?


    Same with the attacker stats. Were they blocked (un-killed) a lot, how kick-assly was the opponent playing defense? How good was the setter doing?


    Stats add color and spice to a narrative. I use them all the time when they support a narrative I've already built. If they don't, I ignore them :)

  • Would the narrative be that the service errors were into the net or that they were trying to serve aggressively and did keep the opponent on their heels but they just let a few go through and out of bounds?


    Same with the attacker stats. Were they blocked (un-killed) a lot, how kick-assly was the opponent playing defense? How good was the setter doing?


    Stats add color and spice to a narrative. I use them all the time when they support a narrative I've already built. If they don't, I ignore them :)

    At least you're honest ;)


    But I agree. if an attacker gets blocked, and the ball lands in, is it the attacker's fault or the other players' fault for not covering? Or is the set bad? Stats doesn't tell you this. Even if the setter sets under the net, as long as there is only one blocker there it's a good set.