2019 FIVB Women's Volleyball Nations League

    Gözde Yılmaz is being a great useless player again:obey::roll:


    I think having such a versatile player like is very very useful for the team. I would rather take her as backup opp than Meryem for sure.


    My concern about this roster so far libero Simge's bad shape. She had an amazing VNL last year. She was so-so during this season in Eczacıbaşı but her level dropped significantly during the end of season. I don't understand how Eczacıbaşı will rely on an inexperience newly converted libero as back up of Simge:aww:


    Aslı showed us all one more time, it is not all about height. 6 blocks!:cheesy: Unfortunately, Yasemin didn't make a good impression during the limited time she played. I think Aslı deserves more to be the 4th MB next to Eda, Zehra and Kübra considering she is very good serving sub as well. Zehra played finally a good match after playing terrible in last two game and being the reason of losing both matches. I hope she can mature her game and be more stable soon. Otherwise Kübra can easily grab her starting position next to Eda.


    I hope people would finally agree that Ebrar as OH is not a smart idea, at least right now.

    I don't agree that Zehra played terrible, she made some big mistakes at sp's yesterday yes but also the decisions at that time to her were bad. Zehra has had a very good VNL actually being one of the best MBs, she had many amazing performances. The stats agree also. I think she is slowly becoming a world-class player if not already. And lets not forget, she is just 19.


    What I would say is: finally Asli has a good match :S but it was a great performance block wise I have to say, I've never seen her as good in block. She is usually the first player they use for block-out. I wish Beyza wasn't injured tbh, we do need a player like her at times. Now I would pick Asli too as 4th MB and let Yasemin mature her game.

    btw Ebrar as OH is still going strong for me :super: especially now, it is the time for her to develop now not when its too late. It doesnt matter if she makes a couple mistakes.

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    btw Ebrar as OH is still going strong for me :super: especially now, it is the time for her to develop now not when its too late. It doesnt matter if she makes a couple mistakes.

    And I think that one season as OH could be really useful to her to grow up as a player. After that, it would be possible that she doesn't turn out to be as good as Opp, but all the process will be helpful for her and for Turkey

    unbelievable. i only watched the first 3 sets of this match, DOM were up 2-0, and 17-11 in the 3rd set... i cannot believe they couldn't close out the match. well, i can, because i always say DOM has trouble with JPN and their super fast, super defensive game.


    well, in the first 2 sets, de la cruz was a beast, so many blocks and aces in addition to kills. but JPN also targeted her for passing, and that strategy paid off. marte is still so shaky in her setting... sigh. and when they do the double-sub, the 2nd setter, perez, is still so green and unstable... both eve and brayelin saw very limited duty due to injuries. pena came in for rivera in 3rd set and then we saw why kwiek still goes with rivera... pena not a good defender in backrow.

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    but players like Tomkom and Pleumjit are still valuable to the team.

    I love both of them and the rest of the Golden girls dearly, but as we have seen, the younger girls just won't step up or at least play like they should and cave under pressure rather easily. It's always the older veterans to the rescue. All the younger players, including the injured ones that aren't here at the VNL can be consider veterans themselves. Ajcharaporn, Thatdao, Hattaya, and Pornpun have been playing on the NT since their late teens and even the two younger ones(Chatchu-on/Pimpichaya) have been on there since they were 14/15.


    Thailand have younger setters that are similar to Tomkom, although not at her level, but have the skills down. The hardest one to replace would be Pleumjit. Hattaya is probably the closest MB to PJ, skill wise, but still not there yet. I think she might even be the next captain when the veterans retires.

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    I love both of them and the rest of the Golden girls dearly, but as we have seen, the younger girls just won't step up or at least play like they should and cave under pressure rather easily. It's always the older veterans to the rescue. All the younger players, including the injured ones that aren't here at the VNL can be consider veterans themselves. Ajcharaporn, Thatdao, Hattaya, and Pornpun have been playing on the NT since their late teens and even the two younger ones(Chatchu-on/Pimpichaya) have been on there since they were 14/15.


    Thailand have younger setters that are similar to Tomkom, although not at her level, but have the skills down. The hardest one to replace would be Pleumjit. Hattaya is probably the closest MB to PJ, skill wise, but still not there yet. I think she might even be the next captain when the veterans retires.

    I agreed. I really thought by 2017 they will utilize the new golden triangle - Ajcharaporn, Chatchu-on, and Pimpichaya because these 3 showed so much potential as a trio. Too bad they keep going back to Willavan and Kantong (although these 2 still can play a very good game). Maybe the golden girls are still there for Tokyo 2020. Hopefully (and I pray to God) they will make it to Tokyo and after that all the golden girls will step down. Pornpun is the closest thing to Tomkom imo. And whatever happened to Thatdao? She was one of the most dominant Thai MB?

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    I agreed. I really thought by 2017 they will utilize the new golden triangle - Ajcharaporn, Chatchu-on, and Pimpichaya because these 3 showed so much potential as a trio. Too bad they keep going back to Willavan and Kantong (although these 2 still can play a very good game). Maybe the golden girls are still there for Tokyo 2020. Hopefully (and I pray to God) they will make it to Tokyo and after that all the golden girls will step down. Pornpun is the closest thing to Tomkom imo. And whatever happened to Thatdao? She was one of the most dominant Thai MB?

    me too, but I think it's due to how unstable those 3 still are. Wilavan, Onuma still covers them most times. Though Chatchu-on isn't bad in reception and floor defense either, she just isn't consistent.


    I think so, this is their last chance to make it to the Olympics as the awesome 6, would have been 7, if Wanna was still active. I think maybe that's why Amporn was called back just in case they make it this time and she will get to enjoy it with them too(if they make it).


    Thatdao has some injuries during club season again. But she was training with the NT pool of players before the VNL, so I think her, Hattaya and Pornpun should be back by Olympic qualifier round in a few months. Pimpichaya on the other hand, might not be until the continental Olympic qualifier in January or so.

    So apparently the main reason why the USNT was forced to alternate their OH as their libero this week because...1. Courtney caught a bug while in China and was still recovering during the Russian leg. 2 Mary Lake lost her passport enroute to Ekatarinburg and was therefore refused/not allowed to enter Russia. They had to scramble and fly her back to the states according to Kelsey.

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    me too, but I think it's due to how unstable those 3 still are. Wilavan, Onuma still covers them most times. Though Chatchu-on isn't bad in reception and floor defense either, she just isn't consistent.


    I think so, this is their last chance to make it to the Olympics as the awesome 6, would have been 7, if Wanna was still active. I think maybe that's why Amporn was called back just in case they make it this time and she will get to enjoy it with them too(if they make it).


    Thatdao has some injuries during club season again. But she was training with the NT pool of players before the VNL, so I think her, Hattaya and Pornpun should be back by Olympic qualifier round in a few months. Pimpichaya on the other hand, might not be until the continental Olympic qualifier in January or so.

    but how will the new golden triangle work? Ajcharaporn seems to be a hole in receiving but she attacks best in position 4. she has been playing as Opp for a while but she is most dominant as OH. can Pimpichaya cover her in terms of passing? what happened to Pimpichaya? was she injured?


    the new MB duo is good imo. Thatdao and Hattaya all have potential despite their height. and the two-liberos system is good at some part.


    but for God's sake, they need to improve their serve. they have simple float serves and they are not exactly the best blocking team in the world. so they need to put pressure on opponent's receiving line.

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    I didn't expect China to rank 1st at all, since they lost all the matches with the B squad in the first week.

    Team B won Dominican Rep.

    My favourite roster of Chinese (in 2022)
    male NT:
    S - Yu Yao-chen, Chen Lei-yang
    OP - Jiang Chuan, Dai Qing-yao
    OH - Zhang Jing-yin, Yu Yuan-tai, Liu Li-bin, Fu Hou-wen
    MB - Zhang Zhe-jia, Peng Shi-kun, Li Yong-zhen, Jiang Zhen-yang
    L - Yang Yi-ming, Yang Tian-yuan


    female NT:
    S - Yao Di, Diao Lin-yu
    OP - Gong Xiang-yu, Sun Xiao-xuan
    OH - Li Ying-ying, Wang Yi-fan, Wu Meng-jie, Zhuang Yu-shan
    MB - Yuan Xin-yue, Wang Yuan-yuan, Zheng Yi-xin, Liu Yu
    L - Ni Fei-fan, Xu Jia-nan

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    but how will the new golden triangle work? Ajcharaporn seems to be a hole in receiving but she attacks best in position 4. she has been playing as Opp for a while but she is most dominant as OH. can Pimpichaya cover her in terms of passing? what happened to Pimpichaya? was she injured?


    the new MB duo is good imo. Thatdao and Hattaya all have potential despite their height. and the two-liberos system is good at some part.


    but for God's sake, they need to improve their serve. they have simple float serves and they are not exactly the best blocking team in the world. so they need to put pressure on opponent's receiving line.

    Ajcharaporn started her NT career as an OP and gradually became an OH(which as we have seen, suits her best, but she plays either depending on occasion). As for how the new triangle will work? my guess is once Pimpichaya recovers fully from her injuries sustained during training prep for this year's VNL. It will go back to how it was. Ajcharaporn as OH#1, Chatchu-On OH#2 and Pimpichaya as OP. And on the weird occasion like last WCH due to injuries of the young WS, Thatdao may sub in to play as either an OH or OP if needed. But that won't be necessary, once Malika retires, the young OP, Thanacha from the U23 team should take her place.


    But what I really want is the 19 year old, 192 cm beach volley girl named Pat to play as OP if she ever decides to transition over to Indoor volley. I think she would be a good and strong OP for Thailand as she is strongly built and she is rather mobile and agile too for her size.


    and yes, I have mentioned before, but once upon a time, Thailand had 4 strong jump servers among the golden generation of girls in Pleumjit, Malika, Amporn and Onuma. But now only Onuma still does Jump serve on special occasions. Would be nice if these younger girls learn to jump serve or do better floaters.

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    Ajcharaporn started her NT career as an OP and gradually became an OH(which as we have seen, suits her best, but she plays either depending on occasion). As for how the new triangle will work? my guess is once Pimpichaya recovers fully from her injuries sustained during training prep for this year's VNL. It will go back to how it was. Ajcharaporn as OH#1, Chatchu-On OH#2 and Pimpichaya as OP. And on the weird occasion like last WCH due to injuries of the young WS, Thatdao may sub in to play as either an OH or OP if needed. But that won't be necessary, once Malika retires, the young OP, Thanacha from the U23 team should take her place.


    But what I really want is the 19 year old, 192 cm beach volley girl named Pat to play as OP if she ever decides to transition over to Indoor volley. I think she would be a good and strong OP for Thailand as she is strongly built and she is rather mobile and agile too for her size.


    and yes, I have mentioned before, but once upon a time, Thailand had 4 strong jump servers among the golden generation of girls in Pleumjit, Malika, Amporn and Onuma. But now only Onuma still does Jump serve on special occasions. Would be nice if these younger girls learn to jump serve or do better floaters.

    Ajcharaporn & Cjatchu-ona s OH uo and Pimpichaya as OPP were the triangle that made me interested in this new generation. Having Thatdao and Hattaya as MBs and Pornpun as setter will complete the transition into a whole new generation of players. The liberos can stay tho. They are working pretty well.


    Tomkom has lethal floater serves. Ajcharaporn long and high float serve is the weakest imo. They don't have to do the atomic power bomb serves like the Cuban did in their hey-days. A precise, laser-like floater serves can do enough damage,