2022 FIVB World Championship - Russia

  • Updated as of 09-18 12:15 UTC


    With Iran and Japan winning in Asia. The cut line is basically set at 22. Cameroon will be outside the top 24 or in 24th and PR could finish as 24.


    If Poland win one semifinal, the winner of the 3rd place match will get the 2nd Place position for Europe.


    Mexico and Turkey were moved to locks but still playing group. More than 10 points ahead of Qatar and China, plus teams below them that are done playing, mean they are safe.


    Egypt probably in with Bulgaria and Ukraine as buffers if Qatar and China win.


    Bulgaria need a loss of Qatar or China to be safe. Taipei with loss today is probably more than 10 points behind and they probably could not pass Bulgaria with a win on Sunday.


    Qatar win over Australia on Sunday and they are in. Lose and they will fall below Ukraine.


    China needs to win over Taipei to be in. They are already below Ukraine on points, so they would be out.


    Taipei might have to sweep China to have a chance, whether that will give them enough points. Plus needs a Qatar loss possibly.


    Australia basically in same boat with Taipei, but must beat Qatar to have a chance, but also need Taipei to win.


    At present with the updated version of qualifying (top 2 teams from each continent), host, world champions and then the top 12 teams.


    Locks (regardless of finish in continental)

    1. Russia (hosts, Ranking 3)

    2. Brazil (CSV Champions, Ranking 1)

    3. Poland (World Champions, Ranking 2)

    4. France (Ranking 4)

    5. Argentina (2nd Place CSV, Ranking 5)

    6. USA (Ranking 7)

    7. Iran (Asian Finalist, Ranking 10)

    8. Japan (Asian Finalist, Ranking 11)

    9. Canada (2nd Place NORCECA, Ranking 12)

    10. Cuba (Ranking 13, 210)

    11. Tunisia (African Champions, Ranking 14)

    12. Netherlands (Ranking 15)

    13. Germany (Ranking 16)
    14. Puerto Rico (NORCECA Champions, Ranking 23)

    15. Cameroon (2nd Place Africa, Ranking 25)

    16. Europe Champions (Italy 6, Serbia 8, Slovenia 9)

    17. Europe 2nd Place (Italy 6, Serbia 8, Slovenia 9)


    Locks but still playing, and could be above, Red are done playing, Still playing

    18. Italy (Ranking 6, 303) (1st/2nd Europe)

    19. Serbia (Ranking 8, 286) (1st/2nd Europe)

    20. Slovenia (Ranking 9, 278) (1st/2nd Europe)

    21. Mexico 177

    22. Turkey 169


    Spots of Chaos (as ranking points are still moving), Red are done playing, Still playing

    23. Egypt 167
    24. Bulgaria 164

    25. Qatar 158

    26. Ukraine 157

    -----CURRENT CUT LINE (2 berths in probably in)----

    27. China 155

    28. Belgium 150

    29. Chinese Taipei 149

    32. Chile 147

    33. Australia 143

    34. Finland 141

    35. Czech Republilc 139

    36. South Korea 137

  • Wait, Turkey made it? :lol: I thought they had no chance/other teams would have a better chance.

  • Wait, Turkey made it? :lol: I thought they had no chance/other teams would have a better chance.

    Part of it was teams ranked higher played bad, South Korea looking at you. Plus not knowing how the points per match would play out. We had really only seen the VNL and Olympics with the new point system.

  • Also with the Europe, many of teams are in the top 20, so wins mean more there. Czech Republic got 17 points for their win over France, ranked 40th over 4th.

  • Updated as of 09-18 21:35 UTC


    With Iran and Japan winning in Asia. The cut line is basically set at 22. Cameroon will be outside the top 24 or in 24th and PR could finish as 24.


    FIVB has not updated the points yet after the European semifinals, but the positions were already clinched regardless of who won, but now we can move Italy and Slovenia up.


    Mexico, move to in and Turkey were moved to locks but still playing group. More than 10 points ahead of Qatar and China, plus teams below them that are done playing, mean they are safe.


    Egypt probably in with Bulgaria and Ukraine as buffers if Qatar and China win.


    Bulgaria need a loss of Qatar or China to be safe. Taipei with loss today is probably more than 10 points behind and they probably could not pass Bulgaria with a win on Sunday.


    Qatar win over Australia on Sunday and they are in. Lose and they will fall below Ukraine.


    China needs to win over Taipei to be in. They are already below Ukraine on points, so they would be out.


    Taipei might have to sweep China to have a chance, whether that will give them enough points. Plus needs a Qatar loss possibly.


    Australia basically in same boat with Taipei, but must beat Qatar to have a chance, but also need Taipei to win.


    At present with the updated version of qualifying (top 2 teams from each continent), host, world champions and then the top 12 teams.


    Locks (regardless of finish in continental)

    1. Russia (hosts, Ranking 3)

    2. Brazil (CSV Champions, Ranking 1)

    3. Poland (World Champions, Ranking 2)

    4. France (Ranking 4)

    5. Italy (European Finalist, Ranking 5)

    6. Argentina (2nd Place CSV, Ranking 6)

    7. USA (Ranking 7)

    8. Slovenia (European Finalist, Ranking 8 )

    9. Serbia (Ranking 9)

    10. Iran (Asian Finalist, Ranking 10)

    11. Japan (Asian Finalist, Ranking 11)

    12. Canada (2nd Place NORCECA, Ranking 12)

    13. Cuba (Ranking 13, 210)

    14. Tunisia (African Champions, Ranking 14)

    15. Netherlands (Ranking 15)

    16. Germany (Ranking 16)

    17. Mexico (Ranking 17)

    18. Puerto Rico (NORCECA Champions, Ranking 23)

    19. Cameroon (2nd Place Africa, Ranking 25)

    Locks but still playing, and could be above, Red are done playing, Still playing

    20. Turkey 169


    Spots of Chaos (as ranking points are still moving), Red are done playing, Still playing

    21. Egypt 167
    22. Bulgaria 164

    23. Qatar 158

    24. Ukraine 157

    -----CURRENT CUT LINE-----

    27. China 155

    28. Belgium 150

    29. Chinese Taipei 149

    32. Chile 147

    33. Australia 143

    34. Finland 141

    35. Czech Republilc 139

    36. South Korea 137

  • What possible combination of results could leave Bulgaria out? I don't quite see it, I think they are locked already...


    How many points would Australia get with a 3-0 win over Qatar?

  • What possible combination of results could leave Bulgaria out? I don't quite see it, I think they are locked already...


    How many points would Australia get with a 3-0 win over Qatar?

    I don't think that it will be 20, but with them just being over the line right now, I am just being safe. Probably they are in if Qatar and China win, albeit as the last spot.


    This right now is really just to show who is left and where they are, and what spot of the 24 would they be at.

  • Updated as of 09-19 11:05 UTC


    With Qatar and China winning in Asia today, the field looks set.


    FIVB has not updated the points yet after the European semifinals, but the positions were already clinched regardless of who won, but now we can move Italy and Slovenia up.


    At present with the updated version of qualifying (top 2 teams from each continent), host, world champions and then the top 12 teams.


    Locks (regardless of finish in continental)

    1. Russia (hosts, Ranking 3)

    2. Brazil (CSV Champions, Ranking 1)

    3. Poland (World Champions, Ranking 2)

    4. France (Ranking 4)

    5. Italy (European Finalist, Ranking 5)

    6. Argentina (2nd Place CSV, Ranking 6)

    7. USA (Ranking 7)

    8. Slovenia (European Finalist, Ranking 8 )

    9. Serbia (Ranking 9)

    10. Iran (Asian Finalist, Ranking 10)

    11. Japan (Asian Finalist, Ranking 11)

    12. Canada (2nd Place NORCECA, Ranking 12)

    13. Cuba (Ranking 13, 210)

    14. Tunisia (African Champions, Ranking 14)

    15. Netherlands (Ranking 15)

    16. Germany (Ranking 16)

    17. Mexico (Ranking 17)

    18. Puerto Rico (NORCECA Champions, Ranking 23)

    19. Cameroon (2nd Place Africa, Ranking 25)

    20. Turkey 169

    21. Egypt 167


    Spots of Chaos (as ranking points are still moving), Red are done playing, Still playing

    22. Qatar 166
    23. Bulgaria 164

    24. China 163

    -----CURRENT CUT LINE-----

    25. Ukraine 157

    26. Belgium 150

    27. Chile 147

  • Continental Breakdown for Qualification:

    Africa 3 (TUN, EGY, CAM)

    Asia 4 (IRI, JPN, QAT, CHN)

    Europe 10 (RUS, POL, FRA, ITA, SLV, SRB, NEE, GER, TUR, BUL)

    NORCECA 5 (USA, CAN, CUB, MEX, PUR)

    South America 2 (BRA, ARG)

  • So.. if there's seeding with serpentine system for the world championship, at least for the top 12 teams (the top 2 "pots") like there usually is, then shouldn't the pools look like this?


    A

    Russia (Host)

    Canada (12)


    B

    Brazil (1)

    Japan (11)


    C

    Poland (2)

    Iran (10)


    D

    France (4)

    Serbia (9)


    E

    Italy (5)

    Slovenia (8)


    F

    Argentina (6)

    USA (7)


    Not too sure about USA since they have the same points as Slovenia though the ranking shows them as 7th and 8th respectively.

  • there are decimal points that are not shown, and hence if tied on points the team that is listed higher would have a better decimal point value. Poland vs Iran in Round one, they can’t seem to keep away from each other.


    Yes, the set up would be correct and then the final two pots would be divided into groups of 6, based on the ranking, 13-18, 19-24.

  • No seeding for teams 7-12 then? interesting. This gives us the chance to avoid USA then (and hopefully Slovenia as well).

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  • the idea kf the top 4 teams that ranked 3° to adva nce seems not bad. Butthe top 2 teams that ranked 2° in the next stage doesnt seems good.


    I would prefer 2 pool of 4 teams instead 2 pool of 3 teams.