2019 / 2020 Transfer Rumors & Discussion (Female)

  • Ebrar is the best player in Vakifbank right now and VB are playing really well, what are you talking about.


    FB was playing quite well too, Vargas just got injured.

    Ebrar the best? There is no objective way that statement can be sustained. She is not the best scorer, she doesn't have the best % of attack nor the best % of reception. In either the domestic league or Champions league. One cant even say that she is the best against the most difficult opponents, because she wasn't the best scorer in any of the matches against the elite teams in either of the 2 leagues.


    And relatively speaking, Fenerbahce is not playing good, especially in comparison to the expectations prior to the start of the season, when they were widely (almost universally) seen as the strongest Turkish club this year. Losing against Vitra twice, having to play another 2 5-setters against decidedly weaker teams in the domestic league...

  • Ebrar the best? There is no objective way that statement can be sustained. She is not the best scorer, she doesn't have the best % of attack nor the best % of reception. In either the domestic league or Champions league. One cant even say that she is the best against the most difficult opponents, because she wasn't the best scorer in any of the matches against the elite teams in either of the 2 leagues.


    And relatively speaking, Fenerbahce is not playing good, especially in comparison to the expectations prior to the start of the season, when they were widely (almost universally) seen as the strongest Turkish club this year. Losing against Vitra twice, having to play another 2 5-setters against decidedly weaker teams in the domestic league...

    http://tvf-web.dataproject.com…cs.aspx?ID=42&PID=85&mn=2


    Sis I always have receipts

  • Even if u have someone like Kelsey as one of the passers, opponents would target anyone else weaker than her in their two-man passing system. This gets highlighted even more since their libero is so poor in passing. Maybe try a one-man passing formation with Kelsey getting all the balls? Lol. Or replace Branki at the back with a defensive specialist.

  • Even if u have someone like Kelsey as one of the passers, opponents would target anyone else weaker than her in their two-man passing system. This gets highlighted even more since their libero is so poor in passing. Maybe try a one-man passing formation with Kelsey getting all the balls? Lol. Or replace Branki at the back with a defensive specialist.

    I havent watched some FB matches. Is their current libero really that weak in reception compared to Merve?

  • All of what I said still applies, so there is no way one can say she is the best Vakif player of the season, regardless of that one (very strange) parameter. Or would you honestly claim KYK has been the best Vitra player of this season?:P


    Edit: Wait a minute, that list includes only OHs? How can you then claim she is the best Vakif player as opposed to best OH Vakif player?

  • 'played'


    Referring to: played matches


    Here is the english version of the site btw, much better: http://tvf-web.dataproject.com…cs.aspx?ID=42&PID=85&mn=2

    Beri, Ebrar started this season pretty weak, one of the reason they struggled so much, only started to play better during WCC and has been playing good since. We cannot say she is their best player. Don’t care what stats say as we all have seen.

  • I feel like mihajlovic could be only useful with a receiving opp like parubets. Terzic is being stubborn to implement the same system from Serbian nt but it could only works with a solid receiver libero

  • OMG


    Ebrar is the best player in vakifbank?

    If Haak didn't exist on this team, i don't know what Vakifbank wold be like



    They might set all the perfect receptions to middles. Not all to Haak. Lol.


    Haak in Vakifbank==Fabris in Conegliano (Wolosz used to set more balanced in system)


    It took a couple of years to get Conegliano that you need an opposite to kill bad passes, not just system balls and Imoco hired Egonu.


    Vakif will wait Zhu to kill all OOS balls. They re setting OOS balls to Gabi and Ebrar now.

  • Ebrar is the best player in Vakifbank this year, if not, she is second one, really close to Zehra... She is killing every difficult ball, and she had a lot of them in time of pressure, she's clutch when needed, and passing really well... I don't get it why the utter astonishment about that statement.. The way you guys are saying looks like she is doing nothing and playing really poorly, and it's definitely not what happened

    OMG


    Ebrar is the best player in vakifbank?

    If Haak didn't exist on this team, i don't know what Vakifbank wold be like



    Do you know that other players are allowed to play good too? Ebrar being the best does not mean that Haak is playing bad :)

  • Ebrar is the best player in Vakifbank this year, if not, she is second one, really close to Zehra... She is killing every difficult ball, and she had a lot of them in time of pressure, she's clutch when needed, and passing really well... I don't get it why the utter astonishment about that statement.. The way you guys are saying looks like she is doing nothing and playing really poorly, and it's definitely not what happened

    Do you know that other players are allowed to play good too? Ebrar being the best does not mean that Haak is playing bad :)

    OMG HAHA


    Let's make a comparison between them. Haak is Vakifbank's best player


    1º - Aydin

    Haak 30 (66%)/Ebrar 15 (33%)

    2º - PPT

    Haak 15 (65%)/Ebrar 12 (57%)

    3º - THY

    Haak 22 (55%)/Ebrar 4 (25%)

    4º - ATLAS

    Haak 16 (38%)/Ebrar 12 (26%)

    5º Fener

    Haak 14 (32%)/Ebrar 2 (17%)

    6º - BEYLİKDÜZÜ

    Ebrar 19 (50%)

    7º - Nilufer

    Haak 14 (58%)/Ebrar 14 (57%)

    8º - KARAYOLLARI

    Haak 16 (71%)/ Ebrar 14 (47%)

    9º - Besiktas

    Ebrar 16 (40%)

    10º Galatasaray

    Haak 21 (48%)

    11 - Eczacibasi

    Haak 18 (65%)/ Ebrar 9 (44%)


    Club World Championship


    Haak - 122 pontos (1º place) - 53,55%

    Ebrar - 61(11º place) - 47,57%


    The numbers don't let me lie. I'm not saying that Ebrar is playing badly, but it is a lie to say that she is Vakifbank's best player. Haak who is running the team

  • Exactly. What's with the strawman argument about Ebrar playing badly? Who argued that? All we are contesting is the statement that she is the best player on the team this season (at least so far).


    Having said that, I do think this discussion has gone off-topic quite a bit.

  • Haak attacks against single block or non-block almost every time. That's why her spike percentage that high. She should thank to Maja&Cansu duo. When she gets a bad set, she made a mistake or blocked. She rarely fine at out of system balls.


    Vakifbank uses their excellent recieve for Haak most of times and gives her perfect sets while Ebrar gets trash balls. She usually hits against double-triple blocks and she killing it.


    Haak has failed most important games half of the seasons.


    1- Super Cup against Eczacibasi.

    2- Fenerbahce at VVSL

    3- Scandicci at CL

    4- Novara ( Group matches of Fivb Club World Championship)

    5- İmoco Semi-final at FCWC.


    Recently she's doing great job but i still trust Ebrar more than Haak at hard times.


    Haak kinda overrated, sorry. At least for now.


    I hope she can be better <3

  • :rolll::rolll::rolll::rolll:


    Different opinions. Normal.


    Vakifbank without Haak would not have gotten the results in the season.


    The numbers don't lie.

  • Haak is not performing like Egonu (noone is) but her performance is great. Already one of the best OPPs in the World right now.


    Ebrar is playing AMAZING for OH, from reception to attacking when you know that She is originally OPP. That is crazy how fast She become so good reciver!