Serbia NT 2019

  • In addition to resting KYK against Holland, it's also annoying how Kim didn't show half the form during the club season that she has been showing throughout this summer with NT. She has probably the second highest contract in the sport, and yet she played like she wasn't even in the Top 20 players in the world (only to return to almost the old Kim in NT).:down:

  • In addition to resting KYK against Holland, it's also annoying how Kim didn't show half the form during the club season that she has been showing throughout this summer with NT. She has probably the second highest contract in the sport, and yet she played like she wasn't even in the Top 20 players in the world (only to return to almost the old Kim in NT).:down:

    Neither boskovic nor ognjenovic played the same level with their club as they did with their NT. I don't know if it is about the motivation of the player or the chemistry in the NT.


    To be honest Eda also never played so good in nt except last two years although she was a beast during club season

  • I agree with everything you guys are saying.


    I'm so pissed about that loss. But remember that I said the games against Korea, Argentina and DR would be toughest for them... and sitenoise said I was just making excuses :lol:...


    They could not keep up with Korea's speed.


    Aleksic's serve is disgusting. She pisses me off, because that is something that can totally bring the team down when your middle serve like that.


    Blagojevic's game is pure based on talent, she must work for every point. But I think I would only use her with Mihajlovic on the floor.


    I agree they should let Lazovic and Milenkovic play instead of her. But Busa is still young and she also needs to play as much as she can. I'm assuming she must not be 100% health.


    Another reason why Blagojevic is getting to play more could that her reception is still more reliable than Milenkovic and Lazovic, and their Goal is Gold in Tokyo, so Blagojevic might be able to help the team more than Lazovic and Milenkovic considering their inexperience. And Blagojevic did not play much at all in the ECH.

  • For me Bjelica has totally earned her spot in Tokyo. Not only she's playing amazingly well, but I also love her attitude and leadership on the floor.


    Same can be said about Mirkovic, yes she can be inconsistent at times, but there's really no need to bring Zivkovic back.

  • Neither boskovic nor ognjenovic played the same level with their club as they did with their NT. I don't know if it is about the motivation of the player or the chemistry in the NT.


    To be honest Eda also never played so good in nt except last two years although she was a beast during club season

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    Boskovic has dominated every team she has played against. The only team her level drop is against Vakifbank...Zhu and Rasic.... Who does not struggle against them? And who does not struggle against Vakifbank?


    Vitra won a world tittle and many medals with Boskovic and Maja....take Vakifbank out and Vitra would have won a bunch of Gold.


    Maja lead a very young team to the Italian Finals....tittles in Poland, Russia and so on...

  • Before I forget Boskovic has had many great games against Vakifbank...only problem is that usually she gets no help. We all know what happens when a team can stop her... There's simply nobody that can step up and help.


    Egonu won 2 games game against Vakifbank on her own ... But if she had to play against them as much as Boskovic has.... I'm pretty sure Guidetti would easily find ways to stop her.

  • Before I forget Boskovic has had many great games against Vakifbank...only problem is that usually she gets no help. We all know what happens when a team can stop her... There's simply nobody that can step up and help.


    Egonu won 2 games game against Vakifbank on her own ... But if she had to play against them as much as Boskovic has.... I'm pretty sure Guidetti would easily find ways to stop her.

    Actually, they just won 1 game plus a golden set.

  • I'm so pissed about that loss. But remember that I said the games against Korea, Argentina and DR would be toughest for them... and sitenoise said I was just making excuses :lol: ...


    They could not keep up with Korea's speed.

    At least you're not making an excuse that KYK beat them. She didn't do squat in the match until the 4th set, and said afterwards it was because she felt rusty from not playing the day before. I don't know how all that works


    Serbia is doing fine :) I don't know if they have the defense to beat Japan, but probably. They lose to China, what is your prediction now against DOM?

  • Maja played very well in Russia last year. It'd be "unfair" to say that her level wasn't enough in her club. That's why Vakifbank transfered her this year even though she had a contract with her ex-club.


    + Zivkovic's performance was very good IMO last year.

  • At least you're not making an excuse that KYK beat them. She didn't do squat in the match until the 4th set, and said afterwards it was because she felt rusty from not playing the day before. I don't know how all that works


    Serbia is doing fine :) I don't know if they have the defense to beat Japan, but probably. They lose to China, what is your prediction now against DOM?

    They could beat DR, but after loosing for China and probably Japan I'm afraid they will have lost all their confidence. DR is also super inconsistent but they have been playing relative well. I think it is 50/50.

  • I must say that after watching Bjelica's helpless performance against France I was thinking that Serbia might need a new OPP sooner rather than later and that she would be useless in the WC :gone:.


    Well done to her for raising her level and proving me wrong. :rose:

  • Maja played very well in Russia last year. It'd be "unfair" to say that her level wasn't enough in her club. That's why Vakifbank transfered her this year even though she had a contract with her ex-club.


    + Zivkovic's performance was very good IMO last year.

    I've never said that her level wasn't enough in her club. Both Boskoviç and Ognjenoviç had good seasons with their clubs but their performance in club season never been as good as their performance in their NT. This doesn't mean they played bad in Eczacıbaşı:wall:

  • I've never said that her level wasn't enough in her club. Both Boskoviç and Ognjenoviç had good seasons with their clubs but their performance in club season never been as good as their performance in their NT. This doesn't mean they played bad in Eczacıbaşı:wall:

    Maja's performance in D.Moscow has been as good as her performance in NT. There is no need to talk about Maja and Fetisova duos. That's why D.Moscow won the game against Fenerbahche and Vakifbank last year. Thing is different in Turkey IMO, they should transfer 3 foreign players and let all of them play whole season in Turkish League. If Maja will sit on the bench in Turkish League, don't expect the same performance from her. + her teammates are the same players in NT, but she needs some time to strengthen her connection with players in her club.

  • Watch Boskovic play World Club Championship the year they won, she was imo as good or even better actually there compared to her usual NT performances (imho it was her best tournament ever) she was beasting like no player could.


    This all is a bit unfair to point out towards Tijana, let's not forget; club season is all year around and they just can't keep that kind of performance up every single week for 8-10 months compared to the 2 max 3ish max serious months with NT. So their amazing performances seem to fade a little faster.


    Also Tijana is still so young guys, born '97 many seem to forget that as she's been so good for so long, her game still has so much maturing it can do!


    Maja on the other hand, I just don't see a drop in performance ever at all personally... The season she was with EczV, Kosheleva was the one that flopped rather and the everlasting start of the MB problem in Vitra after Thaisa got injured and Adams was just mediocre at best, not speaking of Busra at all.

  • Well said, beri.:win:


    I see Turkish people (presumably Vitra fans) complaining on twitter and youtube how Tijana is so much better when she plays for NT than for her club, and I'm like um...what?! I get that it's at least a little bit coloured by bitterness due to defeats to Serbia in the last 2 EChs (not talking about you here, serdar:win:), but come on, a little perspective, people! She has carried Eczacibasi at least since 2017, even though she shouldn't have had to last year; that's why they laid out the money trunk to Kim, but she seriously dropped the ball in this past season (remember when we discussed prior to 2018-2019 season how it was tantamount to cheat code to have those 2 in the same time?).

  • Kosheleva had still a role in that Club World Championship, I remember her playing great in that final vs Pomì. That team was an all star team on paper but like it happened many times, it didn't work as expected.


    I also want to say that facing Vakifbank is not an easy task, but teams like Pomì and Novara were able to beat Vakif in CL. I didn't expect these results back then and in my opinion, it's also about taking the chance when you have it.

    Sorry for the off-topic :pinch:

  • Of course China is the only undefeated team left.


    Of the 11 teams, 10 of them has had at least 1 loss sweep. Serbia and China are the only 2 teams that won at least 1 set in every match. :super:


    With only 2 games left.... I hope Serbia can keep this going.

  • First i wish to say that is the result is miss from the staff. Bjelica is the best scorrer of the tournament(although she was not shine in the second half ot the tournament), Pusic is 3rd by number of defenses per set and Aleksic is 5th blocker of the tournament. Mirkovic on the end just solid, and i still fear about setter position in future, Mina Popovic had amazing tournament second in a row, Savic is simply dont quality enough fot this level of volleyball, i dont delight with Lazovic performance but she does not have a full chance to show her, Milenkovis was quite ok with her injury and because she did not play in the last season, i think that she will show full of her quality in the next years, Blagojevic and Busa standard, Kocic is confused all of time, Lozo, Gocanin, Djorjdevic played a little. I dont think that this competition has been used properly, and at least for the sske of placement, i see this competition as failure. Next year out girls are going for the missing gold. 💪
  • This run of defeats certainly left a bit of a bad taste in the end. IMO the game against Russia was the turning point, they really thought they could win and they had a chance, they were not the same mentally after that. It's a shame, because with a bit of more of clutch, experience and better coaching (it has to be said), the overall result and impression could have been a lot better. But, what can you do now, except take notes and move on.

    This tournament was supposed to be a fine balance between giving the young players a chance as much as possible and being competitive at the same time (and not like weeks 4 and 5 of VNL, which served absolutely no purpose), and I'm not sure it succeeded in either.

    The final placement is bad and few of the youngsters really made a big impression as it was mostly the experienced players carrying the team. We can't talk about Aleksić until she fixes her serve, regardless of everything else she does on the court. It's an integral part of the game. I definitely expected more from Lazović, although she wasn't used properly. Milenković did alright considering where she was a year ago, but she still has a long way to go and I'm afraid of another Malagurski scenario. Kocić was by far the biggest disappointment, I remember when she was a big prospect, she's nowhere near that now.

    But it all boils down to Mirković and that she's simply not ready/good enough to take over yet. She's improved a bit and there are some positives about her game, but she'll need to do much better in the future if we're going to invest in her as the starting setter after Tokyo.