2020 Olympic Games - Tokyo (Female)

    I hope Russian fans can parse the stages of grief quickly. Of course it's sad, but as someone with no investment in ... really much at all except Japan :( I got a big rush out of Russia this tournament and think their future looks bright. Good luck, my friends. What everybody wants is exciting volleyball and Russia is going to contribute to that, imo.

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    Ok, so do you want to talk VB, let's talk VB. No "hate". Apart from the "offensive language", what did I say about Goncharova that is not true? Startseva is not a mediocre setter? Do we have a serious coach, who knows what he is doing, off court? Russia doesn't play outdated VB with useless MB for the past 20 years - women NT? Voronkova is a world class player now?

    1. Startseva is in TOP 3 setters of these Olympics.

    2. Voronkova is actually THE best OH of the Olympics ( but people may have dieffrent opinions, top 3 for sure with Garay and Kim )

    3. Goncharova played a great game against China and was good against USA too. 2 games that led Russia to a surprising qf because before the Olympics started noone predicted that they are going to make it.


    So yes, saying that they suck is a lie.

    Is there any link where i can watch match replays? 😊

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    Is there any link where i can watch match replays? 😊

    with vpn : https://en.sports.nhk.or.jp/ol…ts/list/sport/volleyball/

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    1. Startseva is in TOP 3 setters of these Olympics.

    2. Voronkova is actually THE best OH of the Olympics ( but people may have dieffrent opinions, top 3 for sure with Garay and Kim )

    3. Goncharova played a great game against China and was good against USA too. 2 games that led Russia to a surprising qf because before the Olympics started noone predicted that they are going to make it.


    So yes, saying that they suck is a lie.


    You see, you contrafict yourself. If they are so good, why people had so little expectations about them?


    Startseva has been in NT for a decade. I have seen enough matches. She might seem good because she replaced Shesheninaand Akulova. A brick wall would look good compared to them. If she is top3 in these OG, others must be really bad.


    I said Voronkova "greatly overperformed". That means I acknowldge she played a good tournament. But she not good at all. Maybe she is not horrible, as she was when she first joined the NT back then, but she is not good enough.


    Goncharova's problem is not "sucking". I think I made it clear. Of course she is good, as far as skills go.

    IMO Gabi was amazing today. She killed.

    But that is just the Russian system. What do you want? Nootsara? Players you have are used to this kind of play because this is just their style. Russia plays high balls that's it. Startseva fits into that system well and she had a very good tournament.


    Speaking about Voronkova : So if she played good than why are you saying that she will always get blocked and make mistakes? Maybe she just improved her game?


    And about Goncha : People have dieffrent personalities. The fact that she doesn't cry after that loss does not mean that she doesn't care. Everyone shows emotions in dieffrent ways. You don't know what's inside her head.

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    But that is just the Russian system. What do you want? Nootsara? Players you have are used to this kind of play because this is just their style. Russia plays high balls that's it. Startseva fits into that system well and she had a very good tournament.


    Speaking about Voronkova : So if she played good than why are you saying that she will always get blocked and make mistakes? Maybe she just improved her game?


    And about Goncha : People have dieffrent personalities. The fact that she doesn't cry after that loss does not mean that she doesn't care. Everyone shows emotions in dieffrent ways. You don't know what's inside her head.


    Do you watch men VB as well? Russian NT is a perfectly modern team. Why can't the women team play 2021 VB? They are still playing the nineties. What you say is only partly true. One of the reasons that we play like that is because we don't have setters capable of playing otherwiise. So yeah, she is part of a system, but she is also part of the problem. Plus, she playing the most BASIC and SIMPLE style possible, shouldn't she be at least more precise? Because she isn't. She makes too much errors for someone who is not playing fast paced VB. Also, she should be smarter. Goncharova should never be an option in a tight moment.


    My point is, Voronkova greatly overperformed. She played a good tournament. But, deep down, she is not good, so when it is really needed, she will more than likely fail. When you are playiing above your average level in a long and very tough tournament, chances are at one point you will crumble, because it's too hard to be so close to the edge all the time. She is not the worst spiker, but she is no Sokolova, meaning she should be a lot better in reception and defense to be really useful. Brazil and Italy always had these sort of "not great" OH when it comes to attack, but great in the back of the court. So it payed off in the end. Voronkova doesn't have that, so it won't cut. I didn't blame her, though.


    It's not about crying...Russians don't even like to show too much emotion in public - it's not about having emotion or not. Russians are very emotional people. It's about showing. So no one will blame her for not crying. That's just silly. But she really doesn't care. She is aloof. If you were Russian you would notice that too. Furthermore, that's not even the main point, which is she is the biggest chocker in Russian sports. She can never deliever when it matters. She is just weak willed and weak minded, because on top of chocking, she is easy to give up and let go. That's "ok", she is not the first like that. But she is really arrogant, she thinks she is the "queen of VB". Even when she was new to the NT she wanted to outshine Gamova. She was nothing, she had not done anything for the NT. Yet, she is so arrogant that she made intrigue with the biggest Russian star.


    10 years have passed, she still hasn't accomplished nothing, but she is still the same diva, the same useless primadonna, who think she is too good for the game. She acts like a bully, like I explained in my original. Gamova mocked other players too, but she never shat herself when the team needed her in a big match.

    Guys, just a quick suggestion to all. These QFs have been heartbreaking for the fans of the losing teams. It has been in different scales, but still heart breaking. So it might be very likely that some new users or trolls might come in order throw away their frustration (actually it is hard to deal with it if you a die-hard fan). Hope Im wrong. So in case we see a troll, I just suggest to ignore them or not step on the stick.

    We could differ, disagree, have different points of view, even prank and joke (of course, just if the other let you prank with him/her), but if we see bad vibes coming, insults and so on, it would be better to just let them pass and wait the mods do their job.


    Forgive my boldness guys, I know Im not a mod. As I wrote, it is only a suggestion. If you want, you could ignore it too:D

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    Italy never passing QF? Check

    China never defending? Check

    USA never winning gold? We'll see.. ..


    Btw, I have just noticed China had the chance to overcome Cuba and tied URSS like the team with more gold medals

    Currently, URSS has 4, Cuba 3 and China 3 too. Brazil is just one step to be part of this selected club.