COVID-19 (Coronavirus)

  • do you follow reality? he’s worse than a moron. that is the politest term i could use for that piece of shit.

    I know that politics always create inflammable discussions but there is no need to be this aggressive... and it's a subject that doesn't add anything to this topic, so let's everybody remain respectful and in-topic, please

  • Dutch study suggests 3% of Netherlands population developed coronavirus antibody


    That's about 500 000 people.


    If we use the same model for the world cases, that's more than 200 million.

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  • Everyone has their own opinion about the guy... the point is, this is not the place for this type of stuff... I will take further actions if you guys don't drop this subject

  • Essentially, WHO is the culprit of how the coronavirus became a true pandemic. It was supposed to protect us by giving us guidelines to follow but there was clearly a form of mixed and confusing messaging on the value of face masks and especially the resistance of calling coronavirus a pandemic due to a redefinition of the meaning of a "pandemic".


    It is perhaps the biggest error of this very saga. Pandemic is a very serious thing. A phase 5 epidemic between atleast two countries doesn't sound as bad and may have led people into a false sense of security.


    I heavily disagree on defunding WHO but if we look on the history of the virus spread, WHO had a part on this...


    It's just not a good time to play the blame game. Everyone should know this. The man in the white house too.:whistle:

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  • Remember that you don't need to be right all the time or make the other change their opinion about something. Posts were deleted, I don't want any of you stirring the pot with political comments that don't add anything to the discussion. You know that this subject is a difficult one and it can turn a discussion into a fight real fast, so I ask you to think twice (or even thrice) before doing it. Thank you for your understanding

  • In addition to what my colleague has said, I have noticed you can be very passionate about some things, ossubtus. Too passionate. Try to rein it, at least as far as not lashing out and verbally abusing fellow members when they might disagree with you on those topics.

  • There was a major cover up with China. Taiwan wrote them a letter of inquiry dated back December but it fell on deaf ears.

  • Everyone has their own opinion about the guy... the point is, this is not the place for this type of stuff... I will take further actions if you guys don't drop this subject

    How is "His (President) Response to Covid" not related to the topic ?


    Anyhow, I'll comply. Starting today, I will no longer reply to anything related to politics.

    Stare a casa è difficile per tutti, ma è la sfida alla quale siamo chiamati tutti. Anche io non so più cosa fare, però dobbiamo farlo perché è una cosa più grande di noi. Dobbiamo cercare di essere sorridenti. Io sono fatto così: come mi vedete in campo. Cerco di essere sempre positivo. Mi piace sorridere e godermi i momenti della vita.


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    Thibault Rossard

  • My personal opinion, we should discuss covid only in the context of volleyball. I remember there was another thread where members analyzed which teams benefitted from the delay in Olympics and which teams were harmed. I think that was good and more in spirit with the forum, which should be volleyball first.

  • This thread is under the Off-topics & Help category, discussing non-volleyball related stuff is actually the reason why this section exist.

    Stare a casa è difficile per tutti, ma è la sfida alla quale siamo chiamati tutti. Anche io non so più cosa fare, però dobbiamo farlo perché è una cosa più grande di noi. Dobbiamo cercare di essere sorridenti. Io sono fatto così: come mi vedete in campo. Cerco di essere sempre positivo. Mi piace sorridere e godermi i momenti della vita.


    - Trevor Clevenot


    Krisztian Padar

    Thibault Rossard

  • According to worldometers.info China has add 1.290 new deaths from the past. I still don't believe in their real numbers, but okej. And now they have only 116 active cases. So brava China.


    Germany is in right path to win over this virus very fast again more than 4k cured people, total now over 81,8k. double more cured than new cases. I think that Germany has this trend for a couple of days. More cured than new cases. So brava for them ( Matthias ) correct me if I'm wrong.


    And yes I have read the same article they had published in Croatia about Dutch situtation. That there is already more 300k people who have antibodies against Corona. Great news.

  • I know this topic is by its very nature entwined with politics, but any post which clearly invites passionate political fights or debates will not be tolerated.

  • If you are really serious to what you are saying, why did you only remove my reply to #542 but keep #542 ? Isn't #542 enough political ?

    It's not just about being political. Your post was inflammatory, which Mapuan's is not. I have no political agenda here, couldn't care less about the whole thing, but the really damaging part in all the erased posts in this thread are its inflammatory parts, and not the political discussion per se. You could try to answer his point in reasonable, calm tone, without abusive and inflammatory language, if you feel you must.


    Alternatively, if members cannot stop themselves from getting dragged into hot-headed debates, we may be forced to expand the ban to any and all political topics (which would leave this thread to only statistical numbers, which we can all read from original sources, anyway), but right now, this is the line, and you'll have to respect it, like everyone else.

  • Can I just say that Iran's numbers are so annoying and I can't imagine how the people living there are feeling right now with 1500 numbers and about 100 deaths being the numbers now for like months..? Who believes that... It must be so frustrating seeing the exact same numbers pop up daily for ur country. like I predicted now for like 3 weeks their numbers and was right each times tomorrows numbers will be once again 1000-2000 with something between 70-150 deaths...


    They are by far not the only shady government though, what we have learned is to only rely on your own.


    oh so you are an expert on Iran related matters, and all of a sudden you are caring about people living there, exactly in the same day the numbers in Turkey surpassed Iran ? how thoughtful, I'm really sorry the number of deaths in Iran is not what you were hoping to see. you can add two zero to that to make it what you want. is 500k deaths enough for you ? then let's say 500,000 deaths,

    40 days ago I read in the very same thread that per some reports there are 2 million cases in Iran right now. 2 millions 40 days ago probably means 80 millions right now and 1 million deaths. good enough ? does it make you feel better (to forget your own coronavirus problem), it's always easy to talk about things you know absolutely nothing about.


    also let me tell you 40 days ago people living there were also amazed how come Turkey has zero cases. absolutely zero, null, zip, nada, nil. but then I prefer to not talk about things I know nothing about, things like Turkey healthcare system.


    and next time take a better look at the numbers, there were days with more than 3000 cases even though that's irrelevant as everybody knows because Iran's policy is not to test everybody (because of some obvious limitations) people with mild symptoms were always told to stay at home and therefore not being tested.


    PS: this doesn't mean I trust what I hear from the Iranian government, they had a long history of not telling the truth. but I believe in what I see in daily life and if I question the numbers (which I do and I have my doubts about some parts of those statistics), that won't be just an ignorant claim. I could give a more serious and detailed answer if it was a serious post.


    and to so called admins, I don't know what is inflammatory or not, but if anybody wants to delete or edit my post or give me a warning or anything like that, it's just better to close my account. I'm here for more than a decade, that's probably enough. recently I only see childish discussions and nonsense uninformed posts like this one. doesn't worth it anymore. Goodbye

  • mosi I like reading your posts and as one of the oldest members of the forum, I hope you will cool down and stay in the forum


    It is very sad to see many old forum members are leaving the forum because of certain people and their provocative posts:down:

  • I have a proposition for everyone. Why don't you guys just stop making posts targeting people? What do you get for trying to pick a fight? Creates conflict, just for the sake of it? You know it's unnecessary. People complain that the forum is not great anymore, I get it, nostalgia sucks, people are leaving, I get it, but how about making an effort to try to be civilized? This is a community, not a war zone.

  • As an old member myself, the forum is not even close to how it used to be, yet, I'm not going to complain about that. Time flies, people change, things change, relatively fast.

    Members leaving the forum could be because of the reason above or maybe they don't like some others but also maybe they are so busy and not into volleyball anymore. But then one doesn't have to, nor is obliged to stay if they don't feel like it. It's a personal decision I'd cautiously say.


    Even me, I haven't been so active here because mostly I was extraordinarily fed up provocations, attacking someone just for having a different opinion and speaking of provocations, I kinda realized that I also had made sensitive posts here that could definitely be considered aggressive, probably towards some certain players, clubs or countries, so what I learned from this is that before you want to target and bully someone, why don't you look at yourself first? Read what you're going to write, think twice if it would hurt someone, because that's what I did and I absolutely regret doing that. Maybe in my culture it's okay to say things like that, but not in the other part of the world.


    I mean imagine if everyone agrees you and there's no one saying different statements, that's not a forum, that's more like a fan club and that's not what we are here for, are we?


    It's a difficult moment worldwide, for now it doesn't really matter who to blame or think who's the best and worst to handle this crap, it won't be too late yet if we do that after everything is calmed. Let's just hope this disaster will be gone soon, I'm LITERALLY worn out, both mentally and physically hearing people dying every single day.