South Korea - Women's V-League 2020-2021

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why is Lee Dayeong not part of the block ranking? even in over all ranking she's not there even though her average block per set is 0.46, she's supposed to be in the top ten

bro that's true! even an hyejin is on the list

You can basically ignore this, skip to my next post <<Edit>>

There seems to be some kind of limit on most of the categories, visible in the top right like this

I have not found out what kind of limit we are talking about and what it exactly means but my guess is that you have to either have atleast 15% of something or at the most 15% of something to be ranked in the category.

LDY specifically is ranked 13th in total blocks this season (32) and 9th in average blocks per set (0.46) which you can see here.

On her profile on the other hand it says that she is 11th in blocking this season.

Like other people have pointed she doesnt show up on the filtered version of the page when you set it to only Round 4, but she does on the total record page that I linked above, when set to Round 4

With 11 blocks in 5 games (18 sets) averaging 0.61 on rank 5.

Soo I guess it's connected to the 15% limit that was mentioned above, I couldnt figure out what exactly the limit refers to.

If someone wants to do the math:

LDY scored 23 pts in Round 4, 11 blocks, 9 attacks, 3 aces

maybe it is connected to some kind of team percentage or she didnt get enough points other than blocking points so the ratio isnt eligible for the category?

Idk im grasping at straws here, maybe you guys can find out the secret KOVO "limit".

EDIT: think i found it out, check the following post

Alright guys I think I know what the limit refers to,

from what I just researched it has to refer to the total blocking attempts of your team.

LDY had 12.738% of her team's blocking attempts for Round 4, that is less than 15% therefore she is not on the list.

40 attempts for LDY out of 314 for her whole team.

Ahn Hyejin that was mentioned before had 45 attempts out of 290 total GS Caltex attempts in Round 4 ---> 15.517%

thats why she barely made it into the blocking list for Round 4.

For the whole season and not just Round 4, LDY has 13.88% of her teams blocking attempts, thats why she is not featured on the list.

The other two players of the Heungvengers also have some blocks but less than 15% share, LJY with 14.25% and KYK with 13.65%.

Thats why nobody else than Kim Seyoung (21.57%) shows up on the total list as of right now for Heungkuk since even Lee Juah has only 14.63%.

I guess we can expect some Heungkuk players to join KSY on the list soon when they reach 15% of Heungkuks total blocking attempts.

Hello everyone,

Can someone explain to me the difference between the international volleyball rules versus KOVO's rules regarding KYK's protest to the referee during the last GS Caltex vs Hengkuk match?

And also for the 11 Nov match last year, where Park Mi Hee got a yellow card for protesting, what was she protesting about?

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Alright guys I think I know what the limit refers to,

from what I just researched it has to refer to the total blocking attempts of your team.

LDY had 12.738% of her team's blocking attempts for Round 4, that is less than 15% hence she is not on the list.

40 attempts for LDY out of 314 for her whole team.

Ahn Hyejin that was mentioned before had 45 attempts out of 290 total GS Caltex attempts in Round 4 ---> 15.517%

thats why she barely made it into the blocking list for Round 4.

For the whole season and not just Round 4, LDY has 13.88% of her teams blocking attempts, thats why she is not featured on the list.

The other two players of the Heungvengers also have some blocks but less than 15% share, LJY with 14.25% and KYK with 13.65%.

Thats why nobody else than Kim Seyoung (21.57%) shows up on the total list as of right now for Heungkuk since even Lee Juah has only 14.63%.

I guess we can expect some Heungkuk players to join KSY on the list soon when they reach 15% of Heungkuks total blocking attempts.

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thanks for the info 😊

volleyballdavely11 always enjoy your detective work

anyone know why hyundai insist to use kim dain, when lee nayeon have more stable game? just wondering since i new to volley

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anyone know why hyundai insist to use kim dain, when lee nayeon have more stable game? just wondering since i new to volley

maybe they want her to be the next Lee Dayeong

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Hello everyone,

Can someone explain to me the difference between the international volleyball rules versus KOVO's rules regarding KYK's protest to the referee during the last GS Caltex vs Hengkuk match?

And also for the 11 Nov match last year, where Park Mi Hee got a yellow card for protesting, what was she protesting about?

For the first question I'm in the same boat as theloneracer but from articles talking about local rules, controversy etc I think that the KOVO rule of "last person touching the ball" was kinda inconsistently used in the last seasons.

KYK protested against the decision since she didnt know about the KOVO rule that apparently is a bit different from the FIVB rules. My guess is that she usually gets the block/touch-out point in cases like this but here in the Video Challenge the Video-Challenge-Referees decided that her hand left the ball after her opponent.

KOVO said they will look at their rulebook after this season and make it more consistent since it seems like this particular rule used to be kinda 50/50 - sometimes in the attacker's favour, sometimes in the blocker's favour. Eventhough its really hard to tell even with a slow-motion video whose hand left the ball earlier etc.

About the second question I do have a different take on that than our thread admin.

Admittedly by simply watching it I couldnt tell what exactly happened and if the pancake by Han Dahye was valid or not, but after checking in on some sport articles from naver talking about heated moments of the game (why do they always happen in Heungkuk vs GS matches seriously lol) I found something else out.

At GS leading 23-21 in Set 4 GS Libero Han Dahye attempts a dig more specifially a pancake - the referee blows her whistle and gives Heungkuk a point - apparently the ball touched the floor.

GS Coach immediately calls for a Video-Challenge after Han Dahye signalled that the ball touched the top of her hand and not the floor - Video-Challenge-Lady takes a look at it with her colleague and the assistant-referee.

They look at the replay for a pretty long time - more than 2 and a half minutes pass.

Now for the most interesting part - apparently they were not able to clearly figure out if the ball touched the floor or not, thats why her announcement is like "yeah we cant tell, decision cant be overruled, Heungkuk keeps the point" 23-22.

Everybody is kinda confused - KYK walks up to the first referee already starting to complain - referee tells her "dont worry u guys got the point" - even GS Captain Lee Soyoung seems to be saying "yo KYK u got the point why u complaining(lol)" - KYK now happy, says "yeeeah" and goes to her team to celebrate.

GS coach obviously not happy with the decision starts protesting against it stating that its obviously a successful pancake, Video-Challenge-Lady says "na sorry mate our decision still stands"

Heungkuk coaching staff and head-coach kinda complain about GS coach complaining and it gets a bit heated again.

In the end first-referee gives Heungkuk Coach a yellow card for complaining too much. She obviously doesnt give a hoot and just high-fives KYK.

I think thats roughly how it went down, in the same match there was KYK pulling on the net after a lost rally and earlier hitting a ball away in frustration so there was plenty of action and complaining.

Hope that explains it a bit

Thanks so much both of you for the in-depth explanations, they were really very helpful

Looking forward to your other analyses in the future!

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First of all, hello and welcome to the forum atlas4 and vlover.

Always great to see some new faces.

Unfortunately, I can't help you with your first question as I too don't know what the actual rule is in South Korea and internationally elsewhere. To be honest, at the time watching it, I couldn't understand why KYK was making such a vocal protest since she was the last person to touch the ball. From the perspective of a normal viewer watching the video replay, I can understand and see the reasoning why the V-League officials made their ruling to award the point to GS.

Regarding your second question, I think Park Mi-Hee was protesting that Lutz hit the ball out (in Set 4, whilst GS leading 23-21). From what I saw in the replay, GS continued to play the point after the libero diving dig saving the ball with Lutz eventually hitting the ball out. I think Park Mi-Hee argument was that because the dig was ruled to be valid hence the rest of the point should continue on as how it was concluded in the original play with GS hitting the ball out.

I think I recall seeing some articles at the start of this year with Lee Do-Hee (LDH) stating something like if KIM Da-In (KDI) may find it harder coming in to rescue the match when LEE Na-Yeon (LNY) is having difficulties. LDH think it would be better if LNY come in after KDI is having a trouble.

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thank you for the information. but still im not sure why LDH think like that, since it cost alot of games.

and also can i know how the fa and trade rules in volley?

IBK vs GS Caltex, Idiot of the Day Edition:

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Heungkuk needs more than 4 VP points to secure the regular league title. Beside this round, there is still Round 6. Korea Expressway and Hyundai E&C have 9 matches remaining whilst the other four teams still have 10 matches remaining from the regular season. Unlikely but GS could still possibly get 30 VP points from their last 10 matches.

Anyway, at the rate Heungkuk is going it is very likely they will set a new record for the best record VP and WIn/Loss for a team in one season.

OK.. thank you for the correction....

I'm surprised that Altos can win v Kixx in last night match... It's getting harder for Kixx with Kang SH injured....

Why Lee Da-yeong substituted today? I haven't seen the game, only stats.