2020 CEV Youth Championship

  • This Russian U-17 team has more middle attack than senior NT :lol:

  • the worst italian generation in last years

    It probably is, but worst part of it is the setter, she's being straight up awful today, she just sets to the OH even with good reception and the Russian block is always ready. With a decent setter they would probably still have lost but at least put up a better fight.

  • It probably is, but worst part of it is the setter, she's being straight up awful today, she just sets to the OH even with good reception and the Russian block is always ready. With a decent setter they would probably still have lost but at least put up a better fight.

    But i see the team in same or worst level than last year

    Only change was ituma that did good instead of giacomello that idk what happened to her

    They could do better but they're still behind the finalist

  • It's so delightful to watch this Russia :rose:

  • It probably is, but worst part of it is the setter, she's being straight up awful today, she just sets to the OH even with good reception and the Russian block is always ready. With a decent setter they would probably still have lost but at least put up a better fight.

    Is it really? There were many users praising to some players in this generation:what: I was expecting more since they were the finalist of this generation last year against Turkey.

  • Is it really? There were many users praising to some players in this generation:what: I was expecting more since they were the finalist of this generation last year against Turkey.

    But like i said last year it was clear that turkey and russia were the best

    Italy come back in semis because of public in home

    Now we see the difference

  • The players are not taken to the junior team due to their abilities. 6 players are from Severyanka-2 ?. It would be more accurate to say that Italy will play against Severyanka-2, not the Russia junior team. For me, this team represents Severyanka-2:gone:, not the junior team. Last year it was Kazan-2, now Severyanka-2. Therefore, players who don't wear the jersey of the junior team perform better than those who do:aww:

    I only knew that Suvorova, Kobzar and Khabibrakhmanova are from Severyanka. Who else is from that club? Fedorovsteva and Zamaskaia are from DInamo-Ak Bars, Zhabrova is from Kaliningrad, Shvydkaia is from Uralochka, and Artiukhina is from Zarechie.

  • Is it really? There were many users praising to some players in this generation:what: I was expecting more since they were the finalist of this generation last year against Turkey.

    Yes I think it is, there are some good players but not the stars (for their level) of previous generations. The best player as of right now is imo Manuela Ribechi, which is sadly an OH of only 170/72 cm, she is still able to put up a very good performance at this level (and it's telling that despite her height she's the best scorer of the tourney), but I can't see her making it on a high level as an OH, I believe she will change her role to libero in the next future. She has great spirit and she's clearly very motivated so I think she could become a good libero, not sure if the best one considering the tradition there is in Italy with the position.


    Ituma is a very promising OPP and she has a great physicality, but she still needs to work a lot, she's way too error prone and imprecise; Bellia is also a good prospect imo, usually OH that are so tall are very lacking in reception but she proved to be at least on an acceptable level. The middle blockers is hard to tell, they're not good blockers for sure but in attack they suffer a lot from the setter, which is by far the most lacking position compared to previous years, where Italy always had at least a decent if not good setter (Monza, Morello, Orro, Cambi). Just to point out how bad Orlandi was today, Russia and Italy had more or less the same % of reception (Rus 55%/36% and Ita 54/34), MBs for Russia recieved in total 24 sets, the italians only 8.

  • Sabitova, Dumrauf, Popova and a trainer, Karikov.....


    I expected Irina Shcherban and Pavlova to join this team:whistle:

    Do you have any video of Pavlova? She is from a lower category (2006-2007). And Shcherban is shorter than Zamaiskaia or Artiukhina so I don't think it's a good idea. IMO, the players who are missing in this team are Protopopova (due to an injury) and Gatina (from Loko).

  • Yes I think it is, there are some good players but not the stars (for their level) of previous generations. The best player as of right now is imo Manuela Ribechi, which is sadly an OH of only 170/72 cm, she is still able to put up a very good performance at this level (and it's telling that despite her height she's the best scorer of the tourney), but I can't see her making it on a high level as an OH, I believe she will change her role to libero in the next future. She has great spirit and she's clearly very motivated so I think she could become a good libero, not sure if the best one considering the tradition there is in Italy with the position.


    Ituma is a very promising OPP and she has a great physicality, but she still needs to work a lot, she's way too error prone and imprecise; Bellia is also a good prospect imo, usually OH that are so tall are very lacking in reception but she proved to be at least on an acceptable level. The middle blockers is hard to tell, they're not good blockers for sure but in attack they suffer a lot from the setter, which is by far the most lacking position compared to previous years, where Italy always had at least a decent if not good setter (Monza, Morello, Orro, Cambi). Just to point out how bad Orlandi was today, Russia and Italy had more or less the same % of reception (Rus 55%/36% and Ita 54/34), MBs for Russia recieved in total 24 sets, the italians only 8.

    I am surprised by the level of the Italian setters, as you said Italy almost always had a decent setter in last 4-5 generations. I think for now Italy has enough Opps and MBs for couple of olympic cycle. What they need is a good all-around OH to replace Bosetti for next Olympic cycle (unless Lucia follows the footsteps of Piccinini and plays forever:lol:)


    To me getting 1 or 2 star quality players from each generations is more valuable than getting a medal with a bunch of decent players. Especially short players tend to be disappointing in senior level (for example Damla Çakıroğlu as MVP of her generation). This Turkish generation relies on talented setter but I doubt that she can survive even in U19 championship unless she won't get taller next years

  • I am surprised by the level of the Italian setters, as you said Italy almost always had a decent setter in last 4-5 generations. I think for now Italy has enough Opps and MBs for couple of olympic cycle. What they need is a good all-around OH to replace Bosetti for next Olympic cycle (unless Lucia follows the footsteps of Piccinini and plays forever:lol:)


    To me getting 1 or 2 star quality players from each generations is more valuable than getting a medal with a bunch of decent players. Especially short players tend to be disappointing in senior level (for example Damla Çakıroğlu as MVP of her generation). This Turkish generation relies on talented setter but I doubt that she can survive even in U19 championship unless she won't get taller next years

    For next cycle Caterina could still fill the role, she's going to be just 30 for Paris 2024 (and potentially even in 2028 at 34 wouldn't be something unheard of), but I agree other than her as of right now it's definetly the most lacking position, hoping that Malinov and/or Orro will step up their game. It's funny how Italy went from having Piccinini/Del Core/Costagrande/Bosetti and no opposite to way too many opposites and no defensive OH :white:

  • Do you have any video of Pavlova?

    unfortunately no.... I just take a look at her stats.


    And Shcherban is shorter than Zamaiskaia or Artiukhina so I don't think it's a good idea.

    she was 179 cm but now her height is 182 cm not shorter than Zamanskaya, maybe she is growing taller:/


    http://www.dinamokrasnodar.ru/…eam/dinamo-2/7317-russkih


    the players who are missing in this team are Protopopova (due to an injury)

    she didn't impress me last year, but everything can change at any time bcz we're talking about a 16 yo player.


    Gatina (from Loko).

    she has health issues. I like her sister's performance (Sveta Gatina)

  • she didn't impress me last year, but everything can change at any time bcz we're talking about a 16 yo player.

    Well, she is 1.95 and she could perfectly match with this team since Popova isn't a reliable player. Indeed, she was the principal opposite in the last tournaments. If Zhabrova and Kobzar have improved their level, Protopopova could do it as well.


    she was 179 cm but now her height is 182 cm not shorter than Zamanskaya, maybe she is growing taller:/


    http://www.dinamokrasnodar.ru/…eam/dinamo-2/7317-russkih

    Is she Yana's sister?

    she has health issues. I like her sister's performance (Sveta Gatina)

    So... she will never play for the NT? It's a shame.

  • Vajagic and Bukmen looked really good. Dalia Wilson obviously as well. Why is Aleyna Göçmen not playing? Isn't she supposed to be like the leader OH of this generation. Also Kurtagic looked out of place with this generation.


    Pelin Eroktay was kinda disappointing, I had hoped to see a better performance from what I had heard.


    I also watched some Russia, Federorovtseva is really good indeed, I also liked the middles.