heard about the Cuba too. USA sanctioned Cuba so hard just because it got friendly with Russia yet they are setting up NATO bases in Ukraine and Finland.
If Russia will try to set up base in Mexico, USA would go ballistic.,
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If Russia really wanted to take Ukraine with all her might, they could carpet bomb the hell of it (just like what US did in Iraq/Serbia) and do it much quicker. But Russia will not do that because they want to save civilian life. Stay in your lane and keep watching CNN
Oh, honey, your ignorance is truly astounding. It's cute how you think you know everything about geopolitics and military strategy. But let me break it down for you: comparing Russia's intentions in Ukraine to the US actions in Iraq and Iran is like comparing apples to oranges. You clearly have no clue about the complexities of the situation.
And as for your claim that Russia is sparing civilian lives? Please, spare me the hypocrisy. Russia has a long history of human rights abuses and aggression. Don't be fooled by their propaganda. If they really cared about civilians, they wouldn't be occupying Crimea or supporting separatist movements in eastern Ukraine.
So, before you start preaching about staying in my lane and watching CNN, maybe you should educate yourself on the real facts. It might save you from embarrassing yourself with such uninformed statements in the future. Add iodized salt in your food, that's good for the brain.
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Yeah and the USA wanted to invade Cuba until there was an agreement and the Soviets withdrew.
So Russia's continuous invasion is justified because of this?
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Oh, honey, your ignorance is truly astounding. It's cute how you think you know everything about geopolitics and military strategy. But let me break it down for you: comparing Russia's intentions in Ukraine to the US actions in Iraq and Iran is like comparing apples to oranges. You clearly have no clue about the complexities of the situation.
And as for your claim that Russia is sparing civilian lives? Please, spare me the hypocrisy. Russia has a long history of human rights abuses and aggression. Don't be fooled by their propaganda. If they really cared about civilians, they wouldn't be occupying Crimea or supporting separatist movements in eastern Ukraine.
So, before you start preaching about staying in my lane and watching CNN, maybe you should educate yourself on the real facts. It might save you from embarrassing yourself with such uninformed statements in the future. Add iodized salt in your food, that's good for the brain.
No one is saying that Russia's invasion is justified. It's putting into perspective as to why this war happened in the first place. With USA as one of the main instigator.
and USA's intentions in Iraq are definitely laughable. Weapons of mass destruction yet they found nothing.. har. They finally admitted it and left Iraq. But that's after millions of innocent people died in the middle east.
CNN is garbage for sure. Majority of mainstream media in the USA is.
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The real problem is imperialism along with partisan mentalities on all ends.
The real issue is whether we really believe in self-determination. I keep hearing that Ukraine has the right to join NATO because it has the right to decide its own future. The problem is whether the people of Donbass have the right to decide their own future or not?
According to Western logic and ideology, if people in Donbass don't want to be part of Ukraine or want to join Russia, they should be happy to do so. But the Ukrainian government has been shelling Donbass for more than eight years, killing thousands of civilians.
This war happened long before 2022.
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No one is saying that Russia's invasion is justified. It's putting into perspective as to why this war happened in the first place. With USA as one of the main instigator.
and USA's intentions in Iraq are definitely laughable. Weapons of mass destruction yet they found nothing.. har. They finally admitted it and left Iraq. But that's after millions of innocent people died in the middle east.
CNN is garbage for sure. Majority of mainstream media in the USA is.
No one is saying what USA did. The subject here is Russia's invasion and whether they were instigated by the West or not is still not justified. Any country should have the right to choose its allies and economic freedom to benefit its people.
I wonder why whenever people are pointing out Russia's misdeeds someone will always bring up USA's atrocities? It's like you did bad so I can also do bad.
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No one is saying what USA did. The subject here is Russia's invasion and whether they were instigated by the West or not is still not justified. Any country should have the right to choose its allies and economic freedom to benefit its people.
I wonder why whenever people are pointing out Russia's misdeeds someone will always bring up USA's atrocities? It's like you did bad so I can also do bad.
You can't understand that the war wouldn't hapoen without USA? The west and USA had a very big role in this war. You can't talk about Russia in Ukraine without talking about USA as well. You can't just choose to condemn one and not the other.
again, going back to the Cuba argument. USA was ready to go to war with Cuba for having Soviet military bases on it. Russia left but USA sanctioned Cuba anyway.
USA went to war with Vietnam because it doesn't want Viet to align with communism (Russia at that time). Millions people died.
Now Russia don't want NATO right next door and went to war with it. But you only see Russia here do you.
Because America's actions doesn't matter?
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Just for a fun evening in early April, I was invited to go out to dinner with a Japanese sportswriter friend who invited in a Japanese college classmate, who happened to be a 41 year long city councilmen in the city of Fukuoka.
So just to confirm for those who do not Japanese politics the following.1. Gentleman in his 70s.
2. Worked for a major construction company before becoming a politician
3. Played rugby with the former Prime Minister Mori, yes the same one who was running the Tokyo Games and had to be relieved of his duty.
4. loved himself some DT because he was a “strongman”
if you basically want to see how bad Japanese politics is, this
was one of those evenings.
as someone who somewhat follows Japanese politics, but has a knowledge of Japanese history and major political scandals, it was the first time meeting this man and as soon as I hearing the details of his experience, it was like, what a perfect train wreck.
I apologized to my friend after dinner because his views were not my views and I was going to give answers which in Japanese would not be face saving to placate people. -
You can't understand that the war wouldn't hapoen without USA? The west and USA had a very big role in this war. You can't talk about Russia in Ukraine without talking about USA as well. You can't just choose to condemn one and not the other.
again, going back to the Cuba argument. USA was ready to go to war with Cuba for having Soviet military bases on it. Russia left but USA sanctioned Cuba anyway.
USA went to war with Vietnam because it doesn't want Viet to align with communism (Russia at that time). Millions people died.
Now Russia don't want NATO right next door and went to war with it. But you only see Russia here do you.
Because America's actions doesn't matter?
at the end of World War II, Russia, UK and USA could have stayed partners.
However, USSR/Stalin felt that USA was becoming too powerful with its defeat of Japan in the Pacific and Western Europe being pulled under its influence as well. Also with a differing economic system, USSR decided to go along its own path and partnered with many Eastern European countries (aka dictatorships down the line) and then with China as well.
So the USSR basically splashed its cash and weapons to other countries around the world. Cuba with Castro coming to power, was a great way to say to the USA, we can hit you from here at the time. USA was right in its interest to say, no bases here for you.As the 1980s turned into the 1990s and technology was advancing faster, USSR economy did not adapt to a global environment as it was still a state planned economy. Plus with the majority of businesses being state owned, when the economy collapsed, many of its former partners said, get me to the EU and the west for economic and military stability and joined NATO as well.
When Yeltsin came to power, the now broken up USSR split into the new republics, had a decision to make, partner with Russia or go different path. For the Baltic states, choice was easy, go West and never look back. While others choose to stay partnered.
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You can't understand that the war wouldn't hapoen without USA? The west and USA had a very big role in this war. You can't talk about Russia in Ukraine without talking about USA as well. You can't just choose to condemn one and not the other.
again, going back to the Cuba argument. USA was ready to go to war with Cuba for having Soviet military bases on it. Russia left but USA sanctioned Cuba anyway.
USA went to war with Vietnam because it doesn't want Viet to align with communism (Russia at that time). Millions people died.
Now Russia don't want NATO right next door and went to war with it. But you only see Russia here do you.
Because America's actions doesn't matter?
So you prefer communism as the main form of governments rather than democracy?
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So you prefer communism as the main form of governments rather than democracy?
that's not the point. If a country is free to align themselves to any country as you said, why did USA go to war with Vietnam? that caused millions of people's death? all because they wanted the Soviets not to expand?
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I agree with both sides, but I can't agree with that US invasion of Iraq and destruction of Afghanistan or the case with Cuba and Russia's invasion of Ukraine can't be compared and are like apples and oranges. The only reason one could think like this is of you dehumanize the people in one region and not the other, which is disgusting. No matter what you try to say both were not justified and are equally bad, I am personally of opinion that war is never justified. And I also agree that no matter who instigated what, invasion is not justified. In all cases. The end.
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at the end of World War II, Russia, UK and USA could have stayed partners.
However, USSR/Stalin felt that USA was becoming too powerful with its defeat of Japan in the Pacific and Western Europe being pulled under its influence as well. Also with a differing economic system, USSR decided to go along its own path and partnered with many Eastern European countries (aka dictatorships down the line) and then with China as well.
So the USSR basically splashed its cash and weapons to other countries around the world. Cuba with Castro coming to power, was a great way to say to the USA, we can hit you from here at the time. USA was right in its interest to say, no bases here for you.As the 1980s turned into the 1990s and technology was advancing faster, USSR economy did not adapt to a global environment as it was still a state planned economy. Plus with the majority of businesses being state owned, when the economy collapsed, many of its former partners said, get me to the EU and the west for economic and military stability and joined NATO as well.
When Yeltsin came to power, the now broken up USSR split into the new republics, had a decision to make, partner with Russia or go different path. For the Baltic states, choice was easy, go West and never look back. While others choose to stay partnered.
and that's the main vein of this Russia USA issue. USA said nope you can't be in Cuba. Russia left. but now that USA wants to set up base in Ukraine, it's suddenly okay? as they said, who has military bases all over the world? As much as I want to see Russia abandoning some of their old government system, USA has done a lot of manipulation as well to keep tabs on everyone.
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that's not the point. If a country is free to align themselves to any country as you said, why did USA go to war with Vietnam? that caused millions of people's death? all because they wanted the Soviets not to expand?
++ Vietnam is a great example, they were literally being murdered for nothing.
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, Syria and many many others. Can't just be ignored because people don't give a fuck about them as they don't border them like Ukraine does. it's ridiculous, the west should learn to take accountability and stop preaching what they don't practice.
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Technically, Russia had a chance under Yeltsin to be a NATO member, but it kind of just lingered until Putin came to power. Probably the chaos of Russia shifting from communism to capitalism and then trying to figure out what to do made it hard to make a decision with their military.
However, once Putin has come to power, the influence of Russia has gone back to trying to recreate the partnerships with the new republics. Many of course are family dictatorships since the split and hence no bad transactions are mentioned by either party.
Let alone trying to install puppets Yanukovych who voted not to join the EU, which basically sealed his fate with the people of Ukraine. Then taking Crimea immediately after that, and not to mention South Ossetia as well in the years before that.
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Just for a fun evening in early April, I was invited to go out to dinner with a Japanese sportswriter friend who invited in a Japanese college classmate, who happened to be a 41 year long city councilmen in the city of Fukuoka.
So just to confirm for those who do not Japanese politics the following.1. Gentleman in his 70s.
2. Worked for a major construction company before becoming a politician
3. Played rugby with the former Prime Minister Mori, yes the same one who was running the Tokyo Games and had to be relieved of his duty.
4. loved himself some DT because he was a “strongman”
if you basically want to see how bad Japanese politics is, this
was one of those evenings.
as someone who somewhat follows Japanese politics, but has a knowledge of Japanese history and major political scandals, it was the first time meeting this man and as soon as I hearing the details of his experience, it was like, what a perfect train wreck.
I apologized to my friend after dinner because his views were not my views and I was going to give answers which in Japanese would not be face saving to placate people.gotta say, Japan has sealed their brutal war crimes at the back of cute anime. they have this perfect impression of them in the world stage.
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So you prefer communism as the main form of governments rather than democracy?
If you believe in democracy so much it means people themselves have the right to choose how they want to be governed. Communism or capitalism. There are many communist movements that aren't even authoritarian, which shows how ridiculous your statement is. -
and that's the main vein of this Russia USA issue. USA said nope you can't be in Cuba. Russia left. but now that USA wants to set up base in Ukraine, it's suddenly okay? as they said, who has military bases all over the world? As much as I want to see Russia abandoning some of their old government system, USA has done a lot of manipulation as well to keep tabs on everyone.
I guess the answer is individual governments choose who they want to choose. I am not saying the USA has made some bad decisions, which they have made numerous times with leadership. (Chile, Iran (pre-1979), Marcos in the Philippines (guess who’s back))
Iraq in the 2000s, was just so wrong from an information standpoint (none of it true and no I did not vote for W Bush). Let alone playing the Saudi-Iran-Iraq chess match, which is now basically all the petrostates and deciding which way they want to lean.
Russia did have plenty of influence in the Americas, but at the same time many of those places still later realized, we need American tourists and businesses because they have cash.