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    The Uyghur genocide is just anti-China propaganda that has been debunked many times. I find it hilarious you even mention this at all considering what has been done to the Palestinians for the past 70 years.

    How delusional is it possible to be? You are the victim of propaganda efforts by the Chinese government to cover-up this issue from public scrutiny.


    In February 2019, the Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesperson issued a statement calling China's repression of its Uighur minority a "great shame for humanity".


    The risk of the Uyghur genocide being forgotten is a grave concern. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has not only employed deliberate and calculated tactics to conceal its genocide and crimes against humanity in East Turkestan but has also orchestrated a propaganda campaign to ensure others forget it is happening.


    https://thediplomat.com/2024/0…cure-the-uyghur-genocide/


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…ution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

    Muslims countries support China. The only exception are countries that are part of the western block such as Albania. The same countries that show concern for the so called Uyghur genocide are the same countries that support Israel's genocide of Palestinians. These are the same countries that invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and killed millions of Muslims. Who are you trying to fool?


    There are literally thousands of youtubers showing videos of vacationing in Xinjiang and interacting with Uyghurs and yet you keep posting propaganda articles without any evidence supporting your claim. Wikipedia keep showing a picture of a drug rehabilitation of Uyghurs and called it a concentration camp. Meanwhile Israel is trying to censor everything they can but the world will not be fooled.


    US is banning advance chips sale to China and yet you claimed China has the best chips to even put in into the human brain. Sounds like a cheesy hollywood script written by falun gong cult members. Anti-China propaganda spreaders keep covering lies with other lies and often contradict themselves in the end. It's a 90 billion dollar business. At least come up with something more believable.

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    Muslims countries support China. The only exception are countries that are part of the western block such as Albania. The same countries that show concern for the so called Uyghur genocide are the same countries that support Israel's genocide of Palestinians. These are the same countries that invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and killed millions of Muslims. Who are you trying to fool?


    There are literally thousands of youtubers showing videos of vacationing in Xinjiang and interacting with Uyghurs and yet you keep posting propaganda articles without any evidence supporting your claim. Wikipedia keep showing a picture of a drug rehabilitation of Uyghurs and called it a concentration camp. Meanwhile Israel is trying to censor everything they can but the world will not be fooled.


    US is banning advance chips sale to China and yet you claimed China has the best chips to even put in into the human brain. Sounds like a cheesy hollywood script written by falun gong cult members. Anti-China propaganda spreaders keep covering lies with other lies and often contradict themselves in the end. It's a 90 billion dollar business. At least come up with something more believable.

    Countless prestigeous or renowned outlets have written about the persecution of Uyghurs in China. Yes, they are primarily published by western media, but plenty of reliable evidence are nevertheless brought to light in these articles to support the claims of genocide. Surviving the Crackdown in Xinjiang 


    https://www.theatlantic.com/the-uyghur-chronicles/


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ma…a-ai-surveillance/614197/

    Quote from hakin12

    Countless prestigeous or renowned outlets have written about the persecution of Uyghurs in China. Yes, they are primarily published by western media, but plenty of reliable evidence are nevertheless brought to light in these articles to support the claims of genocide. Surviving the Crackdown in Xinjiang 


    https://www.theatlantic.com/the-uyghur-chronicles/


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ma…a-ai-surveillance/614197/

    Western media is anti-China. No point in posting these articles as evidence. It's just another form of propaganda. If you believe it, that's ok. Chinese government is doing a terrible job of committing genocide as Uyghur's population has doubled under communist rule. Here's a comparison of Gaza vs Xinjiang video. Believe whatever you want.

    Quote from jetmasters

    Western media is anti-China. No point in posting these articles as evidence. It's just another form of propaganda. If you believe it, that's ok. Chinese government is doing a terrible job of committing genocide as Uyghur's population has doubled under communist rule. Here's a comparison of Gaza vs Xinjiang video. Believe whatever you want.

    Lmao the irony in claiming those articles are propaganda and then post that extremely one-dimensional and biased video from a rather suspicious source as "evidence".


    New Yorker has one of the most renowned fact-checking systems in the entire world and to categorically dismiss them as deficient with regard to credibility isnt very serious.

    I think if anyone wants to get a clearer picture of what xinjiang is like, they should travel there to look at the situation. China has lifted visa requirements for most "western countries" to make it easier for travellers.


    Maybe it's off topic here, but I follow other sports.. not just volleyball, and I have noticed there are uighurs representing China in a number of sports including football and basketball. They have many fans in China... but western media seldom mention them. I hope one day we'll see them in volleyball also :/

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    Basketball player Dilana Dilixiati

    Quote from hakin12

    Lmao the irony in claiming those articles are propaganda and then post that extremely one-dimensional and biased video from a rather suspicious source as "evidence".


    New Yorker has one of the most renowned fact-checking systems in the entire world and to categorically dismiss them as deficient with regard to credibility isnt very serious.

    These are from Democracy Now and BBC, both western media with Uyghur genocide narrative. Not sure what are you complaining about. It actually shows difference between a real genocide and propaganda video. New Yorker, NYC Times, have no credibility because they recently claimed the shooter of Trump was Chinese but changed it later. It proves my previous point of western media is anti-China.

    Quote from jetmasters

    These are from Democracy Now and BBC, both western media with Uyghur genocide narrative. Not sure what are you complaining about. It actually shows difference between a real genocide and propaganda video. New Yorker, NYC Times, have no credibility because they recently claimed the shooter of Trump was Chinese but changed it later. It proves my previous point of western media is anti-China.

    It's not just western media who's reporting about China's cruelty to the Uyghurs. Al Jazeera, a news company from a Muslim country, made several reports about this

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    It's not just western media who's reporting about China's cruelty to the Uyghurs. Al Jazeera, a news company from a Muslim country, made several reports about this

    What's the difference between this propaganda video and BBC's? It's still part of western media control of influence. Still failed to show any evidence of genocide like what's happening in Gaza. Other countries actually went to investigate in Xinjiang, so did UN, and found no such claims of genocide. Western media started with genocide claims, then downgrade to cultural genocide, then to repression. Can it get any obvious?


    Politics aside, IOC doesn't have a problem allowing Israel to compete even with evidence of genocide against Palestinians. IOC doesn't have a problem allowing USA to compete with even invasions of Muslim countries and killing millions of civilians. IOC doesn't have a problem allowing China to compete with allegations of genocide that have been debunked over and over. So why do some people have a problem with China competing? Do they have something against Chinese people?

    Quote from hakin12

    Lmao the irony in claiming those articles are propaganda and then post that extremely one-dimensional and biased video from a rather suspicious source as "evidence".


    New Yorker has one of the most renowned fact-checking systems in the entire world and to categorically dismiss them as deficient with regard to credibility isnt very serious.

    The guy in that thumbnail that's supposed to represent the ''good'' situation of Uyghurs who seems to be dancing a la North Korea to that choreographed dance, has beating marks on his eye meanwhile... Nice if that is the good side of Xinjiang I don't want to know the dark side. Just because two situations are not exactly the same doesn't mean the Chinese government isn't committing atrocities or genocide. There have been reports of sterilization of women in Western China, ''re-education'' camps have been proven as well and it's pretty much a nazi camp and also has forced labor aka slavery. Just because the genocide doesn't happen with missiles doesn't mean it's non-existing.

    I also actually think China made some changes in recent years regarding their Uyghur/Xinjiang policies, but no doubt initially their policies were genocidal, how it is currently I am not sure, I think it's actually better now so I will give them that.