2024 Paris Olympic Games

    Quote from inc0gnito

    Just let Russia compete in the Olympics even under a neutral flag same in Tokyo. The level of competition will not be the same, if Russia were not to join. Isn't sport especially the Olympics about inclusivity anyways? :gone:

    Not having Russia in the Olympics will not tarnish that gold. I doubt countries would throw their medals away because they did not experience "the same level of competition".


    Based on the Olympics' own words, they value "excellence, respect, and friendship" - which I don't think Russia is upholding (except excellence, probably) right now, nor would other countries feel that "friendship" from them given their war with Ukraine.


    I understand competing with a neutral flag if it was for their previous issues (cheating and doping). But for war? That's too different.

    My belief is that they are banned from competing because it's additional pressure for their government to stop the war. Questionable efficiency, but hey Ukraine is still losing people in this war, so if it helps, so be it.


    Also, I don't agree that they should compete in Asia; how convenient for them to be able to change continents as they wish. Since they have borders near North America maybe they can try NORCECA. :heart:

    Nowhere I did say not having Russia in the competition would 'tarnish' anything. I was alluding to the fact not having Russia compete, the level of competition will not be as high and this is a fact both on the men's and women's side (and not just in volleyball).


    Yeah you say doping and war are different. But you know what they have in common? Both crimes are done by the West, and they are NOT punished for it. :wavy::gone:

    Quote from Rhaemon

    I guess it's understandable for CEV. So if they will join AVC for a bit.. does that mean they will compete in AVC championship? Etc?

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/iocs…a-olympics-200221390.html

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    Following that announcement, the Olympic Council of Asia on Thursday offered athletes from both countries the chance to compete in this year's Asian Games.

    This year's asian games could be interesting for women's volleyball.

    Quote from inc0gnito

    Yeah you say doping and war are different. But you know what they have in common? Both crimes are done by the West, and they are NOT punished for it. :wavy::gone:

    Very true.


    Quote from fire_cai_bin

    This year's asian games could be interesting for women's volleyball.

    Interesting? Or just even more one-sided than it already was :cheesy:


    Still, surprised that OCA made the decision to include them - and it was specifically done so that they could qualify for the Olympics too. Was there money under the table?

    Quote from suminj

    Very true.


    Interesting? Or just even more one-sided than it already was :cheesy:


    Still, surprised that OCA made the decision to include them - and it was specifically done so that they could qualify for the Olympics too. Was there money under the table?

    Could be. But still fair nonetheless. They were already excluded from anything for 2 years.

    Quote from WZP

    They won’t be part of European federations (like CEV) until 2024. Also Belarus can participate in Asia as well.

    I can understand Russia playing in Asia since they're part of Asia too, but Belarus??!

    Quote from jaeden85

    I can understand Russia playing in Asia since they're part of Asia too, but Belarus??!

    Russia has never been "part of Asia." Politically, ethnically, culturally, historically... European.

    they just happen to have a big territory in the Asian continent. But other than that, they are just as "un Asian" as Belarus is.

    Quote from suminj

    Russia is immensely huge, even within Russia itself there are different cultures

    They're part of Northern Asia

    Of course, Russia has a lot of ethnic minorities that have Asian roots. But again, they are generally European. The only "Asian" about them is Siberia (with a few minorities). And those minority cultures almost isolated from each other and from the Ruskies.

    Anyway, I'm sad for Thailand mainly. They will lose points against this team.

    Russia in AVC makes sense under the circumstances, I thought this would have happened sooner tbh. Only teams that could refuse playing them in AVC would be Japan and Korea I think. I don't think it will be just China playing them, I'm sure almost all teams would be ok playing them. Then again Japan and Korea are important teams in AVC so it might still cause some issues if they decide to refuse playing them, but probably since everyone plays them in AVC (my guess) they'll just play them.

    Quote from user

    Russia in AVC makes sense under the circumstances, I thought this would have happened sooner tbh. Only teams that could refuse playing them in AVC would be Japan and Korea I think. I don't think it will be just China playing them, I'm sure almost all teams would be ok playing them. Then again Japan and Korea are important teams in AVC so it might still cause some issues if they decide to refuse playing them, but probably since everyone plays them in AVC (my guess) they'll just play them.

    Hahaha. Kinda hypocritical for Japan to refuse playing against them. But then I wouldn't be surprised. History denial is big in Japan.

    Russia has played at the African qualifying before as well as Dominican Republican has played at the South American qualifying before so anything can happen.

    Quote from fire_cai_bin

    https://indianexpress.com/arti…nt-randhir-singh-8410062/


    This just makes things even more confusing

    separate medals will likely be awarded to Asian athletes in case they lose to the Russians in medal rounds.


    “They won’t interfere in our medal system or Asian quota for the Olympic Games,” Singh said. “The IOC will work out (Olympic) quota (policy) with us at the OCA and the international federations. And there will be separate medals.”


    :cheesy:?????


    Maybe its just for their ranking points to stay in Top 10 lol

    sounds like a win win for everybody. Russia won't be left behind and Asian teams will play with a big team with big compromises.

    Quote from fire_cai_bin

    https://indianexpress.com/arti…nt-randhir-singh-8410062/


    This just makes things even more confusing

    wait what Russia and Belarus in Asian Games? Oh wait the OCA Acting President is from India and they are allies with Russia. Go figure.

    Quote from Sidney

    Russia has played at the African qualifying before as well as Dominican Republican has played at the South American qualifying before so anything can happen.

    Waiitttt.. Russia played in African qualifying?! How? haha

    Quote from jaeden85

    Waiitttt.. Russia played in African qualifying?! How? haha

    Yes, Russia played continental qualifications in Africa in 1996.


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    Russia was transferred to play in this zone. No more African teams were interested to play.

    Initial host had to be Egypt. They withdrew due to lack of funds.

    Nigeria had to play in the Intercontinental Qualifications in Japan Olympics Women OQ 1996. Withdrew and was replaced by Romania.

    The 2 African teams played after a protest at the inclusion in the Africa zone of Russia.