2024 Paris Olympic Games

    China lost this match two and a half year's ago when Cai was appointed head coach. But don't blame him entirely. The Chinese Volleyball Association (CVA) couldn't see, or didn't want to see how inept he was at the highest levels of competition. His choice of setters and other positions doesn't make sense and worst of all he became the laughing stock of the whole world for selecting Wang Yunlu and sticking by her till the last stages of the VNL.


    Well done, Turkey ! It'll be hard to stop you from a podium finish :box:

    Quote from jt1267

    The refs also missed some rotation errors on the turkish side.


    On rotation 1, Vargas has to stand on the left of OH1 before running around. Instead multiple times she was standing in between OH1 and OH2. Happened a lot of times, not just this match


    Did anyone else notice that?

    This is what I talked about - first point of the match and continued.

    Cansu at position 1 behind Orge. Karakurt is the OH1.

    Literally she has been doing this.


    Like 10-15 points taken away from China.:gone:


    Awful match won by the team with more guts. Vargas comes from another planet, I wonder what she could actually do with a real team around her.
    China too shaky. Their culture of all equals, with no stars and no one emerging above the others, doesn't stimulate creativity and fantasy. They play all the same, always the same. And in the end, they lose.

    Quote from Julian Chow

    China lost this match two and a half year's ago when Cai was appointed head coach. But don't blame him entirely. The Chinese Volleyball Association (CVA) couldn't see, or didn't want to see how inept he was at the highest levels of competition. His choice of setters and other positions doesn't make sense and worst of all he became the laughing stock of the whole world for selecting Wang Yunlu and sticking by her till the last stages of the VNL.


    Well done, Turkey ! It'll be hard to stop you from a podium finish :box:

    In China, things work differently than in other places. First of all, you must be obedient to the party. Knowing about volleyball is an option.

    But also China is to blame, they played much worse than in previous matches.

    The fact that referee is second scoring player for Turkey is another topic.

    Quote from elysus

    Oh I didn't realise that but assuming that Cansu was in position 1, Vargas should be in 4 and Karakurt in 3 so Vargas should be closer to the side than Karakurt...

    Actually Cansu was front row in those rotations as fas as I remember.. I was thinking the same but my understanding of rotations outside of simple pattern is limited so I didn’t think of it much

    Quote from USAvolleyfan

    I’m so so happy for the girls! After all the injuries and obstacles, they made the semis!

    Are those injuries real or just a trick to mess up China? Anyway kudos to Türkye, they really deserved in the end

    Quote from arreath

    are you an idiot? this is at least 5 seconds from the ball being served, players are literally resting, stretching, cansu looking at santa, lmao.

    Right another one - kindly STFU

    (Only rotation 1 their setter would run from the back FYI if you know little about their volleyball)

    Quote from arreath

    are you an idiot? this is at least 5 seconds from the ball being served, players are literally resting, stretching, cansu looking at santa, lmao.

    Why are you so agressive? It's a volleyball forum and someone made an interessing argument about rules. No one is attacking Turkey nor you and you are calling people idiots etc. The whole situation with rotation is quite interesting so now I'm rewatching the game and clearly with the 2 first times when Vargas is in position 4 it's Karakurt who is standing closer to the line than her (she is standing on her right side).

    Girl, all these excuses... I enjoyed China a lot this OG but your faves just lost no need for excuses, the ref gifting the match to Turkey is a reach and a half lmao. Many points were given to China as well, and looking at rotation errors before the whistle blows is something else 😭💀


    Imo losing that third set coming back from behind was a big mental shift in the game.

    Quote from Cofi

    Actually Cansu was front row in those rotations as fas as I remember.. I was thinking the same but my understanding of rotations outside of simple pattern is limited so I didn’t think of it much

    ?????? Just look at the picture again - she would be at the net if she was front court

    First of all, congrats tu Turkiye and to all their fans! They finally got a historic SF spot! It is the cherry on the cake after been a potential and candidate team for so many years. So happy for the team, after that heartbroken exit against South Korea three years ago. This is why I love Olympics and how it gives the athletes the chance to redeem themselves: 3 years ago they lost the match cuz of they were victim of their own nerves, now, they showed determination (the technique has always been there, for me the biggest barrier for Turkiye to give the next step in big stages was the mental one, as I said it many times here). It is such nice redemption story. This is why I dislike when fans so easily complain and bash the athletes not taking in consideration all the pressure they are experiencing. Look how stronger Brazil came back after that horrible loss against Russia in 2004 (the south americans were champions to time in a row), or how USA finally got the so desired gold after two final + 1SF lost in a row, etc.


    Nothing is written. As for China, it is a pity for them they couldnt show even the 50% of what they were in the preliminary round. It happens. Sure, it is also cuz Turkiye didnt let them play, but CHN looked tense. It happens...remember how Cuba was so good in the preliminaries in Beijing and then they were stunt, swept by USA 3x0 in SFs. We have seen multiple times how the 1st ranked team lost to the 4th one.


    Last but not least, and of course this doesnt take away the merit from Turkiye victory, but the referee was ATROCIOUS. Not as much as the shameful red card call against Germany yesterday, but today it was another stained chapter of the bad refereeing in Paris 2024. And the roulette twists for everybody: look how FRA lost some calls against Slovenia and then they were favoured against Germany. It happened today in favour of Turkiye, but who knows what could happen tomorrow or in the following days. The conclusion is that referee is a disgrace and I do hope it improves for the next matches and SFs.