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They should sign Mirosavljevic

Interesting stats from the league:

Sigorta shoP is the team which played the highest number of tiebreaker, 12 in total, and the one which lost the most as well (9 out of 12) kinda Sarıyer from last season. On the other hand, Sarıyer this season has beaten their bad track in tiebreaker sets and they become more tiebreak winning team of the league this season (6 out of 7)

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Interesting stats from the league:

Sigorta shoP is the team which played the highest number of tiebreaker, 12 in total, and the one which lost the most as well (9 out of 12) kinda Sarıyer from last season. On the other hand, Sarıyer this season has beaten their bad track in tiebreaker sets and they become more tiebreak winning team of the league this season (6 out of 7)

Yeah SigortaShop is underrated. I hope they keep Kelsie Payne and add to some of their squad. Muratpaşa from 1. Ligi will be a sponsor to them too. They could easily have been top 5-8th placed too.

Bolu and Ilbank were good degradations.

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There are a lot of logical fallacies in your argumentation but let me answer them briefly. Let'start with your 'best argument':

26-0 vs 22-4.

Claiming the difference of 4 wins because of hiring a 'high quality back up opp' is very illogical since this argument is avoiding other differences between two rosters including coach as well as the changes in opponents team compositions. So one can't claim 'eczaci won 26-0 just because they hired Fabris, and they couldn't have such a success without having such an expensive Opp', which was exactly my point. Not to discredit Boskovic's great performance this season, but what made difference for Eczacıbaşı to reach 26-0 is the consistent performance of their OHs and very deep bench they have now. Boskovic was getting 50+% at attacking almost in every season anyways but obviously it wasn't enough to make difference for Eczacıbaşı to reach this level.

there's an enormous difference between 59.5 % and 52 %

In 2020, she was 53.8 since you love miniscule differences😉 Yes 59.5 is a great stat but many great opps like egonu and haak also reached similar 50+ attacking numbers without having an expensive Opp at their bench so it is not a must.

I won't even reply to your 0.01 difference comment, this only shows how limitless your pettiness can be.

All in all, for me it is very funny that you assume her better performance this season is really because of having Fabris on the bench as if the coach, the setter, the other attackers around him doesn't have bigger impact on her performance. And besides these contributing factors, she is getting better anyways thanks to getting more experienced year by year. We all have seen how her performance was in WCh which we have never seen before. Was this also getting a high quality Opp as backup or all other elements in the team and coaching stuff? Or she is peaking as natural development of players who generally gets better over the year till late 20s anyways.

Boskovic had a great season and even better than previous one but it is ridiculous to think that it was because of Fabris😂😂😂 or she couldn't perform as good if Polen was her backup 😉

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I must be very bored to join this very non-sense argument but I find it ludicrous to say 59.5% vs %52 is not a big difference. Leaving all other arguments besides, a 7.5% spread is huge. Here is a very simple example for you, just count how many players you can place in a 7.5 % spread. This is something I found on Italian league thread. This year stats for Italian league best spikers listed as

Robinson 37.8 %

Piva 37.7 %

C.Bosetti 37.5 %

Stigrot 37.2 %

Larson 37.2 %

Zago 37.1 %

Guerra 35.9 %

Gicquel 35.9 %

S.Nwakalor 35.3 %

Sorokaite 35.3 %

Piani 34.9 %

Davyskiba 34.8 %

Rozanski 34.8 %

Mingardi 34.7 %

Frosini 34.5 %

Ungureanu 33.8 %

Gardini 33.8 %

Sylla 33.6 %

Lorrayna 33.5 %

Fiesoli 32.7 %

Samedy 32.6 %

Gennari 32.4 %

Malik 32.1 %

Abbott 32.1 %

* players with at least 200 attacks

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I must be very bored to join this very non-sense argument but I find it ludicrous to say 59.5% vs %52 is not a big difference. Leaving all other arguments besides, a 7.5% spread is huge. Here is a very simple example for you, just count how many players you can place in a 7.5 % spread. This is something I found on Italian league thread. This year stats for Italian league best spikers listed as

Robinson 37.8 %

Piva 37.7 %

C.Bosetti 37.5 %

Stigrot 37.2 %

Larson 37.2 %

Zago 37.1 %

Guerra 35.9 %

Gicquel 35.9 %

S.Nwakalor 35.3 %

Sorokaite 35.3 %

Piani 34.9 %

Davyskiba 34.8 %

Rozanski 34.8 %

Mingardi 34.7 %

Frosini 34.5 %

Ungureanu 33.8 %

Gardini 33.8 %

Sylla 33.6 %

Lorrayna 33.5 %

Fiesoli 32.7 %

Samedy 32.6 %

Gennari 32.4 %

Malik 32.1 %

Abbott 32.1 %

* players with at least 200 attacks

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especially over the course of an entire season

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I must be very bored to join this very non-sense argument but I find it ludicrous to say 59.5% vs %52 is not a big difference. Leaving all other arguments besides, a 7.5% spread is huge. Here is a very simple example for you, just count how many players you can place in a 7.5 % spread. This is something I found on Italian league thread. This year stats for Italian league best spikers listed as

Robinson 37.8 %

Piva 37.7 %

C.Bosetti 37.5 %

Stigrot 37.2 %

Larson 37.2 %

Zago 37.1 %

Guerra 35.9 %

Gicquel 35.9 %

S.Nwakalor 35.3 %

Sorokaite 35.3 %

Piani 34.9 %

Davyskiba 34.8 %

Rozanski 34.8 %

Mingardi 34.7 %

Frosini 34.5 %

Ungureanu 33.8 %

Gardini 33.8 %

Sylla 33.6 %

Lorrayna 33.5 %

Fiesoli 32.7 %

Samedy 32.6 %

Gennari 32.4 %

Malik 32.1 %

Abbott 32.1 %

* players with at least 200 attacks

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Wanna point out where exactly I said it is not a big difference?🤦 She already had 53.8 before anyways, that's what I also pointed out. This was what I said

Yes 59.5 is a great stat but many great opps like egonu and haak also reached similar 50+ attacking numbers without having an expensive Opp at their bench so it is not a must.

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Wanna point out where exactly I said it is not a big difference?🤦 She already had 53.8 before anyways, that's what I also pointed out. This was what I said

Yes 59.5 is a great stat but many great opps like egonu and haak also reached similar 50+ attacking numbers without having an expensive Opp at their bench so it is not a must.

Haak's highest attack rate in her career is %52.5 and usually hit around %50. She did not have a good backup and remember how she performed poorly in the second part of the season. She finished the season with %49.

This season she doesnt have a good backup and struggled at second part of the season too. She has %49.8 attack rate this season.

%9.5 is huge difference. She migth perform better with a good backup.

about Egonu, the time she had %58 we call her prime period. I remember she broke some league record at that years. She usually hit with around %50. this season she has %48 attack rate in the league. She already has a good backup so ı dont think it is the case for Egonu. İt migth help her but not much.

I think Boskovic's performance can increase with good Opp like Haak and it helped her this season but it is not only about having a good backup. I think Boskovic is at best physical condition in her career, so she is at her prime.

Sorry but no, I'm not paying taxes for 6% raise in performance! Fabris was a waste.

Biggest problem for Eczacı was MBs and blocking tbh and highly underhighlighted here.

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Sorry but no, I'm not paying taxes for 6% raise in performance! Fabris was a waste.

Biggest problem for Eczacı was MBs and blocking tbh and highly underhighlighted here.

Fabris shouldn't habe left Kazan. She was a regular there. In Ecsa, I sometimes forgot she was part of the team.

vakifbank: van aalen, Jorden T, Chiaka, Gabi, Busa + Franti?? How does dat work in TL, someone has to be on the stand?

So no Franti then

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So no Franti then

So no Busa and Chiaka then

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So no Franti then

following the logic, Frantti will be out... However the OH department of the Vakif will be very short next year...

you don't get it, i count 6 foreigners so one has to be on the stand in TL and not on the competition sheet. For CEV they can all be on the roster

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