USA Women's NT 2023

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    The thing here is Plummer had Moki and Kelsey holding her hand (quite literally) for passing.


    Khalia had Emma Cagnin lol

    No matter because nobody was trying to hide her. She had her own responsibility. Also Lanier played in a club with very low targets. Plummer played in a club who wanted to win every possible high rank cup in womens pro volleyball world. Not the same thing.

  • Just out of curiosity, do you have these stats for all the players? VBW only shows the % of perfect receptions (so Plummer for example is at 13.91% there)

    (USA)

    Avery Skinner: 3.33 kps, 45% kill percent, .316, .24 bps, .35 block touches/set, .14 aces/set, 42% positive/17% perfect passing/6 errors (143 attempts)

    Khalia Lanier: 2.81 kps, 40% kill percent .282, .30 blocks/set, .41 block touches/set, .19 aces/set, 40% positive/19% perfect passing/4 errors (149 attempts)

    Kelsey Robinson: 3.40 kps, 37% kill percent, .215, .30 blocks/set, .50 block touches/set, 0 aces, 58% positive/25% perfect/1 errors (53 attempts)

    Ali Frantti: 3.50 kps, 42% kill percent, .300, .17 blocks/set, .50 block touches/set, .17 aces/set, 43% positive passing/24% perfect passing/2 errors (92 attempts)

    Kara Bajema: 2.50 kps, 35% kill percent, .211, .75 blocks/set, .38 block touches/set, .44 aces/set, 30% positive passing/12% perfect passing/4 errors (57 attempts)

    Kathryn Plummer: 3.20 kps, 48% kill percent, .297, 0 blocks, .13 block touches/set, .37 aces/set, 32% positive passing/14% perfect passing/11 errors (151 attempts)


    Here's a list of the starters that I compiled (or who I assumed to be)


    Rozanski: 2.76 kps, 39% kill percent, .285, .20 blocks/set, .12 aces/set, 37% positive/11% perfect passing (280 attempts)

    Lukasik: 2.36 kps, 38% kill percent. 260, .33 blocks/set, .05 aces/set, 52% positive/29% perfect passing (230 attempts)


    Ilkin Aydin: 2.47 kps, 47% kill percent, .320, .22 blocks/set, .22 aces/set, 49% positive/25% perfect passing (160 attempts)

    Hande: 2.03 kps, 38% kill percent, .205, .30 blocks/set, .07 aces/set, 57% positive/29% perfect passing (168 attempts)


    LYY: 4.46 kps, 51% kill percent, .380, .27 blocks/set, .27 aces/set, 61% positive/35% perfect passing (220 attempts)

    Wang Yunlu: 2.02 kps, 39% kill percent, .205, .16 blocks/set, .17 aces/set, 54% positive/28% perfect passing (260 attempts)


    Gabi: 4.19 kps, 40% kill percent, .207, .19 blocks/set, 0 aces, 71% positive/51% perfect passing (79 attempts)

    Maiara: 3.09 kps, 41% kill percent, .277, .23 blocks/set, .23 aces/set, 63% positive/32% perfect passing (101 attempts)


    Loveth: 2.48 kps, 37% kill percent, .203, .39 blocks/set, .17 aces/set, 38% positive/15% perfect passing (320 attempts)

    Villani: 3.07 kps, 45% kill percent, .281, .29 blocks/set, .14 aces/set, 41% positive/23% perfect passing (86 attempts)

    Sylla: 3.39 kps, 46% kill percent, .337, .13 blocks/set, .08 aces/set, 49% positive/24% perfect passing (181 attempts)


    Koga: 3.75 kps, 37% kill percent, .246, .39 blocks/set, .39 aces/set, 47% positive/20% perfect passing (171 attempts)

    Inoue: 3.22 kps, 35% kill percent, .240, .11 blocks/set, .19 aces/set, 40% positive/14% perfect passing (72 attempts)


    Orthmann: 3.83 kps, 42% kill percent, .267, .26 blocks/set, .33 aces/set, 57% positive/30% perfect passing (138 attempts)

    Alsmeier: 2.49 kps, 36% kill percent, .224, .42 blocks/set, .13 aces/set, 61% positive/33% perfect passing (229 attempts)


    Uzelac: 3.12 kps, 39% kill percent, .234, .29 blocks/set, .06 aces/set, 44% positive/22% perfect passing (79 attempts)

    Lozo: 2.89 kps, 44% kill percent, .290, .24 blocks/set, .16 aces/set, 45% positive/19% perfect passing (221 attempts)

    Busa: 1.76 kps, 37% kill percent, .188, .05 blocks/set, .19 aces/set, 45% positive/22% perfect passing (253 attempts)


    Brayelin: 3.61 kps, 40% kill percent, .289, .47 blocks/set, .12 aces/set, 36% positive/14% perfect passing (282 attempts)

    Yonkaira: 2.68 kps, 40% kill percent, .205, .28 blocks/set, .17 aces/set, 43% positive/16% perfect passing (395 attempts)


    Gray: 4.33 kps, 40% kill percent, .273, .27 blocks/set, .21 aces/set, 42% positive/15% perfect passing (481 attempts)

    Howe: 2.35 kps, 35% kill percent, .180, .56 blocks/set, .12 aces/set, 34% positive/9% perfect passing (140 attempts)


    Nika: 3.35 kps, 41% kill percent, .255, .39 blocks/set, .22 aces/set, 44% positive/19% perfect passing (167 attempts)

    Marring: 2.74 kps, 39% kill percent, .250, .16 blocks/set, .29 aces/set, 45% positive/19% perfect passing (204 attempts)

  • Yes it is really good for USA that they have a lot of good OH but this thing also have a disanvatage. They are really a lot and they have a few opportunities to show to Kirally what they can do . And Kirally takes the players who are looking in a better shape in these few matches. But there is a trap in that. The fact that someone can play better than an other in two or three matches does not mean that she is a better player . And unfortunately for Bajema I think that she is a player who needs her time . I mean I do not really believe that she is the 7th best OH. In my opinion she i better than this.

    As for Larson I think that someone in the foroum said something really apt about how sometimes a legend can hold her team back when she can not offer much things any more and he told it about Maja. I think that this is the right answer here

    agree with you on most of the points… it also reminds of Cuban Mireya Luis making the Sidney 2000 Olympics. She’s there almost as an extension of the technical staff…

  • Thank you! LYY stats are crazy indeed, she is so good. Orthmann's also surprised me, I didn't get the impression that she was passing particularly well when I watched Germany matches, but 57% pos is quite respectable.

  • Thank you! LYY stats are crazy indeed, she is so good. Orthmann's also surprised me, I didn't get the impression that she was passing particularly well when I watched Germany matches, but 57% pos is quite respectable.

    probably because she's only passing in certain rotations.


    She gets hidden sometimes by Alsmeier and Stigrot.

  • I don’t think the people who do stats for VBW watch the matches

  • Actually Bajema was very good in the second half of club season. After she got a chance, she used it very well. If she could play good in first half too, Vakıf would never go for Frantti.

    Bajema is a player who needs time to adjust, which obviously karch doesn't like. she was replaced by frantti against poland and was unstable against germany. frantti is a good choice for vakifbank. She has the best performance in vnl and wch last yr. Her passing and defense have improved. Bajema has great potential they are the same player as plummer.

  • I don't think Plummer's passing problem is the reason why KK cut her this time. He cut Plummer and brought Bajema as well as SWP to WCH, who are equally bad at passing, if not worse. It's more like KK has his own ideology about how USA should play, how the system should work, and Plummer being Plummer is not fit into the system. She has strong arm and is capable of kill more OOS balls but she is also relatively slow at attacking and defense. Plus, she has a tendency of making silly mistakes.


    If Plummer were an Italian player (I don't want to assume other top team's status), she would be starting player in every big tournament no doubt. But in USA, she can't even make it to final roster. That tells you how deep the American OHs bench are.