Turkey 2023

  • Shouldn't the Serbian federation make a statement about the parting ways before the TVF? they have the contract after all?

    Seriously?


  • Seriously?


    :PI always thought you couldn't announce things like that if the federation you terminated your contract with didn't announce your termination :/

  • Now the expectations will be very high, at least I will have because since our NT is taking over the world champion, you can't set meager goals :win:

  • I dont even understand why people are complaining about this, it's been said 1 million times. but only 1 naturalized player can play for the team at the same time anyway. Jack married a Turkish guy, she is a local bcs of this reason, not because she is bought, she won't get an NT call either.

    Vargas is the only one where you can say she got ''bought'' indeed but as people said she got banned from her local federation and she is one of the best Opps in the world, she would never get a chance to play for int. competitions otherwise and Turkey became her second home.


    Alexia also wasn't bought at all, Romania tried so hard to keep her but it was her personal decision to switch federations. She didn't feel happy with the Romanian NT/federation and she has been in Turkey since she was a teenager (and even before that she was scouted) even learning Turkish and really adheres to the culture.

    I know only 1 naturalized player can play at the same time but the whole idea is stupid for me. And it doesn’t matter if it’s Leon for Poland, Leal for Brazil or whoever in Turkey. Basically if your Cuban and can’t play for your NT for any reason, then I get it might be upsetting but getting any nationality to play in OG or WCH or whatever is a joke.

  • TVF President, Mehmet Akif Üstündağ: “I want to thank to Serbian Volleyball Federation, In this situation they comprehended and helped us a lot.”

    Where is the press conference?

  • Aren't you busy with making another ethnic cleansing in Kosova?


    Ps: the correlation of my comment to this thread is equal to your comment.

    completely uncalled for and way out of line.

  • Stop quoting that post. There shouldn't be any trace of it on this site.


    Any post that has no connection with volleyball, players or Turkey (in regards to volleyball) will be deleted.

  • The next Serbia-Türkiye match will be interesting :cheesy:

  • The next Serbia-Türkiye match will be interesting :cheesy:

    will it? When’s the last time Turkiye beat Serbias best line up . They even got swept in Ankara without Tica.

  • will it? When’s the last time Turkiye beat Serbias best line up . They even got swept in Ankara without Tica.

    Friendly match in Italy before the 2022 world championship 8)

  • will it? When’s the last time Turkiye beat Serbias best line up . They even got swept in Ankara without Tica.

    VNL 2019 week 1 game 3 at Belgrade

  • You made a fine rebuttal considering the weak position you're forced to adopt, but what is so very far fetched about this hypothetical scenario? You've already naturalized all the other players discussed; contrary to what Beri says below, Turkey demonstrably naturalizes more players than other countries and like clock, every couple of months lately some Turkish users bring the topic of naturalizing Egonu. And I don't blame them; if we are already player shopping (kudos for coming up with that term :thumbup:), it makes zero sense not to buy the best player you could hope to buy.

    The reason that I've called it far fetched hypothetical situation is that Egonu is only playing in turkey for half a season (unlike Vargas or Carutasu), she already plays in a NT that she can compete at high level international competitions (unlike Vargas or Carutasu). If turkey would really go for 'player shopping' they would try Boskovic probably rather than Egonu since Boskovic has been playing in turkey for many years, she loves the culture, Istanbul and she can even speak Turkish a bit. So she is a more likely candidate than Egonu to naturalize to Turkish in that sense. However player shopping doesn't really work in real life. Players are not slaves and do have freewills to decide not to accept any offer coming to their ways. Even clubs can not sign with any player they want even after offering them shit loads of money, let alone a federation could force a player to naturalize. Only thing a federation can do is to make an attractive offer to a player and then it is up to the player to accept it or not. A player can accept to be naturalized or herself can demand it. There could be several reasons:


    1. Pragmatical reasons: her current NT doesn't participate international tournaments (Cuba, Russia) or her current NT is a weak one that she can't participate to big tournaments like Olympics or WCh (carutasu from Romania, Haak from Sweden or Jack from Trinidad & Tobago, Mihajlovic from Bosnia and Herzegovina)
    2. Sentimental reasons: she married with someone from the prospective country (Natalia hanikoglu from the past, Sinead Jack's current situation, even Leon could be considered in this category). Or she played in that country for many years and feels close to the culture (Carutasu, Sorokaite, Costagrande)

    It is not necessarily be only one of these two reasons, indeed it is mostly a combination of two. And at certain cases a player decides to be naturalized, like Carutasu or Vargas and at certain cases they don't want to, like Haak from Sweden, Boskovic from Serbia.


    All in all Turkey is not forcing anyone to naturalize, they are just use their resources to get their program the best success which is something all federations do. Also we should keep in mind that, in naturalization cases mostly clubs are heavily involved too since they have a big incentive as using that player as local, so it is not only Federations initiating or driving the process.


    I don't expect turkey to naturalize more players unless clubs propose it to use their players as locals. The only one I can imagine being possibly naturalized in the future could be Arina if Russia's ban from international tournaments would be prolonged further. She is very young and too good to be excluded from international tournaments. And she has already played in turkey for a while. But this is only my speculation/wishful thinking. I didn't hear any rumours about this possibility.

  • I am for the naturalization of players only if there are reasons for it, not on a whim.

    Vargas would not have a chance to play for high goals because she could not even play for her NT, Karutasu the same.

    If the ban on Russia is extended then Arina should think about naturalization to another country ~ Serbia or Turkey because she is closest to these countries, she is too good not to be able to compete at the highest level.

    This is a difficult topic, everyone complains about Türkiye and looking at Italy, half of the representatives are not of native Italian origin.

    For me, it's not a problem because naturalization is an individual matter for each player and no one forces them to do so