Russia - SuperLeague 2023/24

    Lol, if I were Ebrar, I would never get advice from someone like this: https://www.uol.com.br/esporte…netada-de-ex-namorada.htm


    Besides her bad political support, Natalia did indeed shout at her opponents in past. I am sure someone can google and come up with some examples.


    To be honest, I am not a fan of afrontes at all, or people provoking opponents in any way. But people like Goncharova or Natalia should be the last ones criticising this. Well in general Brazilian and Russian players since afrontes is simply established in these countries and migrated world wide :D

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    You misunderstood some of my points... I will take care to explain. Let me put it into simple words: there is mutual bad behavior during the match, so why is Ebrar the only one being targeted? Social media bullying can also lead to many tragedies. Is this the right way to handle it?

    Natalia said her behavior has been horrible ever since. Not just on that match. Well, it seems even off court, Karakurt is problematic (the issue with that singer she injured). Goncharova was wrong to do that gesture. She apologized. Godina's opinion is a personal one. Why should that reflect the team's opinion?

    Wow I am seeing lots of post on X for this issue. Obviously, D. Moscow trying very hard to deflect Goncharova’s childish and stupid action of showing a finger, and they are even using Natalia P. to come up with this BS reasoning of how Ebra was doing this for a long time. There is big difference between a looking to someone or celebrating excessively vs showing the finger. Goncharova was yelling and screaming herself way worst then Ebra, and on top of that when she showed the finger, she crossed the line, and there is nothing what Ebrar did or not could justify Goncharova’s action, she is not a child to become provoked that easily. Goncharova should be suspended by CEV when she becomes an eligible to play in CEV games. Probably her carrier will come to an end before that anyway. Also, but most importantly D. Moscow’s team manager’s post regarding Fa&*? and LGBT and etc. D. Moscow should be suspended from any CEV games when they become eligible. Funny thing is that I have seen so many times a male football player jumping on another male player when they score a goal, and nobody says anything like that to them. D. Moscow’s team manager’s reasoning is not about if there was any inappropriate action done by Ebra during the game, she brought that up just to deflect and confuse people. For that CEV should take action and suspend D. Moscow.

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    so, natalia said that, she supports goncharova to show her middle finger.


    that's the end of discussion. she is fasict, homophobic and also a disgusting person.

    The fuck? Natalia is not homophobic. Natalia was the one who defended Carol from that cunt Tandara


    You seriously need to calm down and stop acting hysterical what the hell is wrong with you. You can't just say that out of your ass. She's her teammate what did you expect? I'm not defending Goncha she's always given the ICK but tone down on all your bullshit

    Let’s agree then natalia is a conformist. Riding with the wind she is on. Oh God what have i done to find myself supporting ebrar. I think she is an uneducated, nationalist hooligan with a sweet side to it. But i am not letting people condone what has been said and done by others too. It takes two to tango and everyone should be critical of both sides not siding with their favourites blindly. Thats how genocides and atrocities occur

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    Natalia said her behavior has been horrible ever since. Not just on that match. Well, it seems even off court, Karakurt is problematic (the issue with that singer she injured). Goncharova was wrong to do that gesture. She apologized. Godina's opinion is a personal one. Why should that reflect the team's opinion?

    I think Natalia could say anything at this point; she's not reliable after she defended Goncha's behavior. The singer incident has nothing to do with this, as there was no formal complaint from the singer’s side, no appeal, etc.—it's pure speculation. And then there’s Irina Kapustina, whom no one talks about. She was provoking Ebrar since game 1 and admitted it during one of her Instagram stories. Additionally, this video shows that Ebrar can be friendly to those who are friendly towards her. Anyway, many people have prejudices and try to provoke her, as she is easily provoked.


    Quote from Rhaemon

    Natalia said her behavior has been horrible ever since. Not just on that match. Well, it seems even off court, Karakurt is problematic (the issue with that singer she injured). Goncharova was wrong to do that gesture. She apologized. Godina's opinion is a personal one. Why should that reflect the team's opinion?

    Where did Goncharova apologize?

    Ebrar has been doing this for the longest of time. I am not excusing her behaviour. But for Moscow to go all out like this after they lost, it screams "sore loser". I just hope the conservative Russian wouldn't go so far until it threatens Ebrar's safety.


    Anyway, Gamova VS Goncharova screaming battle was one of the most legendary moments of volleyball. 😂

    Quote from taylor10

    so, natalia said that, she supports goncharova to show her middle finger.


    that's the end of discussion. she is fasict, homophobic and also a disgusting person.


    See this kind of rhetoric that immediately labels people with ZERO context?

    Godina's opinion is her opinion.

    just like how Ebrar's attitude is not a reflection of the entire Turkiye team.

    you are the kind of people that should not be loud about things because youclack buance context and logic.

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    yeah, meanwhile she says homosexuality was a phase for her and then she found the truth with God. It's 1950's homophobic propaganda.

    And if it is indeed a phase for her? She's immediately homophobic? Do you even listen to yourself? The problem with you guys is everyone has to agree with you and how you see the world. If she no longer wants the V and wants the D, then you have no right to tell her she's wrong. Grow up.

    anyway, someone posted this on the comment section of dynamo X account. Probably the angle because i've seen the russian team greet each other on the cheek and it looked like they were kissing.

    But this is still funny. 🤣🤣 funnier if these two are really kissing.


    I'm on the side of moscow against ebrar but their lgbtq stance is just B.S. they even posted pictures of the lokomotive offcourt. This is scary level of control.


    Complete bonkers.

    Quote from taylor10

    so, natalia said that, she supports goncharova to show her middle finger.


    that's the end of discussion. she is fasict, homophobic and also a disgusting person.


    And why don’t you call out Ebrar too ?? She is terrible person, She has the worst personality ever.


    I’m going to be so happy when someone punch her with ball in the face.

    Does anyone know Goncharovas stance towards Putin and the Russian regime? She is Ukrainian, born in Lviv, and her parents and sister have a Ukrainian passport. I wonder why she is so silent about the ongoing war and invasion of her homeland, is it due to fear of sanctions?

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    Does anyone know Goncharovas stance towards Putin and the Russian regime? She is Ukrainian, born in Lviv, and her parents and sister have a Ukrainian passport. I wonder why she is so silent about the ongoing war and invasion of her homeland, is it due to fear of sanctions?

    She's probably one of those who are Russian who lives in Ukraine. There's a percentage of Ukrainians who are pro Russia for this reason.

    But really, this is a stupod question.

    She represented Russia for almost 20 years, lives there, has a career and business there and you expect her to say anything?

    Are people really this stupid?