Russia - SuperLeague 2023/24

    Quote from tunc

    but this is something that happens in sports. For example, there is constant trash talk in the NBA and football.

    Volleyball is pre-eminently a sport not known for this kind of behavior, especially in comparison with sports as football. We (players, also us as fans) should keep it like that. Of course things can happen in the heat of the moment but the extent to which Ebrar Karakurt is displaying such behavior is beyond all boundaries and should be punished by referees in Russia and in international matches. Living legend Eda is a role model for Ebrar when it comes to this.

    Dinamo moscow once again made statement and defend their behaviours


    The stupidest club in history

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    Dinamo moscow once again made statement and defend their behaviours


    The stupidest club in history

    Apparently, butthurt will not easily heal

    Goncharovas statement translated into English:


    "I heard what was written about it in the media. First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for my behavior: to the fans, to all the spectators in the stands, to the television audience. This was unacceptable for me. But I also want to point out that I am a very patient and decent person. She had to make a lot of effort to push me to such an emotional reaction, this is not natural for me. My reaction is a result of Ebrar's constant provocations on the field, not only in the last match, but throughout the entire series "Dinamo" - "Lokomotiv". She continued: "This behavior from Karakurt is simply outrageous - this is the behavior of a rude person. I ask this girl to improve her manners and show respect to the people who come to the matches and love volleyball. Respect for people should be at the forefront, not only in sports but also in society in general."

    Quote from hakin12

    Goncharova:


    But I also want to point out that I am a very patient and decent person.

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    Quote from tunc

    Frankly, I found Natalia's reaction a bit excessive, and I think she made such a post because she knew that Ebrar was not loved by Brazilian fans, despite the lynchings she received for supporting Bolsonaro. Moreover, her support of Goncharova's actions and her lack of reaction to Godina's scandalous statement shows what a hypocritical person she is.

    That post and interview were done on purpose after Yelena Godina's stupid statements....


    She shared it knowingly. Her purpose is to divert the reactions elsewhere.


    It's a shame that most players and users aren't aware of this.


    Gamova herself said that she watched the match again and did not see anything that crossed the line. They are completely distorting the situation.

    Quote from serdar

    That's the hypocrisy about you making me sick. You are the one calling everyone else stupid just because they disagree with you and you come here to cry why people just don't share compelling arguments as if you have the comprehension ability or any intention to have a civilized discussion. Go read your comments and think about why people don't bother to reply you with an argument because your arguments are shitty, offensive. That's why you will only get answers along same lines, at least from me that's all you deserve

    So where's your compelling argument🤣

    None.

    I didn't call you stupid. I called your opinion stupid. Read my comments again.

    So where is your argument again?

    You're just ranting about getting your little feelings being hurt.

    Quote from tunc

    First of all, it is necessary to clarify this issue. Ebrar likes to play aggressively on the court and make contact with the opponent. Just like Cuban, Russian and Brazilian players. She even said that her idol was Kosheleva when she was little.

    There is a referee in every match, and if the referee does not react against this kind of actions, the players can continue it. Referees in Russia have been allowing this for years, and we have been seeing Russian players who have been on the same national team for years shouting at each other and making gestures.
    I'm not saying Ebrar is doing it right, but this is something that happens in sports. For example, there is constant trash talk in the NBA and football.

    Frankly, I found Natalia's reaction a bit excessive, and I think she made such a post because she knew that Ebrar was not loved by Brazilian fans, despite the lynchings she received for supporting Bolsonaro. Moreover, her support of Goncharova's actions and her lack of reaction to Godina's scandalous statement shows what a hypocritical person she is.

    karakurt is the one who's excessive. The Russians shout at each other but they seem to know each other's limits. Gamova and Goncharova have done it for years but they never went too far as to get that kind of reaction from each other.

    Meanwhile, Ebrar gets hate everywhere she goes because of her unchecked attitude.

    She did it to the Brazilians, in Italy, in Russia. Heck, even the Thai team.

    In fairness to Goncharova, she never did this to Asian teams. Bdcause she knows they don't participate.

    But karakurt? Dang, she fights people even off court.

    Quote from hakin12

    Goncharovas statement translated into English:


    "I heard what was written about it in the media. First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for my behavior: to the fans, to all the spectators in the stands, to the television audience. This was unacceptable for me. But I also want to point out that I am a very patient and decent person. She had to make a lot of effort to push me to such an emotional reaction, this is not natural for me. My reaction is a result of Ebrar's constant provocations on the field, not only in the last match, but throughout the entire series "Dinamo" - "Lokomotiv". She continued: "This behavior from Karakurt is simply outrageous - this is the behavior of a rude person. I ask this girl to improve her manners and show respect to the people who come to the matches and love volleyball. Respect for people should be at the forefront, not only in sports but also in society in general."

    Is that a joke or something, doesn’t she realize how fake that sounds, first she says it was an unacceptable behavior from her then she starts blaming Ebra for it like she has no control over her own actions. Then she says she is a patient and it needed a lot of effort to push her to behave like that, yet between herself and her team mates, she was the only one who flipped a finger, and top of that she supposed to be the captain.


    Same thing with Natalia P. when she talked about been respectful and all those things and as a person, I am just about to say yes that is correct then she comes back and says I support Goncharova’s showing the finger and contradicted her own initial reasoning.


    What Goncharova as well as Natalia among many others are not understanding of the fact that excessive celebration or looking down or steering at a person at most considered as a passive aggressive behavior, however what Gonchorova did was to respond with an active aggressive behavior first screaming at directly to Ebra but most importantly flipping a finger. That is for sure an active aggressive behavior.


    Gonchorova it is you who is the problem, as a captain you should have smoothed out and defuse the situation, instead you increased the hostility by flipping a finger like a child and D. Moscow team manager made it way worst by attacking and saying such as Fa*%^, and talking about LGBT.

    You people really fail so hard to see that Ebrar IS THE problem. She has zero class and maturity to apologize. Instead, she doubles down by trolling on insta and her insta stories.

    Again, if everyone hates you, then probably the problem is you. And Ebrar is disliked wherever she goes.

    And you fail to see that.

    So it's goncharova's responsibility to "smooth out" Karakurt's appalling attitude? An attitude she has ever since?

    Quote from hakin12

    Goncharovas statement translated into English:


    "I heard what was written about it in the media. First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for my behavior: to the fans, to all the spectators in the stands, to the television audience. This was unacceptable for me. But I also want to point out that I am a very patient and decent person. She had to make a lot of effort to push me to such an emotional reaction, this is not natural for me. My reaction is a result of Ebrar's constant provocations on the field, not only in the last match, but throughout the entire series "Dinamo" - "Lokomotiv". She continued: "This behavior from Karakurt is simply outrageous - this is the behavior of a rude person. I ask this girl to improve her manners and show respect to the people who come to the matches and love volleyball. Respect for people should be at the forefront, not only in sports but also in society in general."

    So he apologize from everyone except Ebrar, who she actually showed the finger, what a pathetic player she is🤦

    Quote from Rhaemon

    karakurt is the one who's excessive. The Russians shout at each other but they seem to know each other's limits. Gamova and Goncharova have done it for years but they never went too far as to get that kind of reaction from each other.

    Meanwhile, Ebrar gets hate everywhere she goes because of her unchecked attitude.

    She did it to the Brazilians, in Italy, in Russia. Heck, even the Thai team.

    In fairness to Goncharova, she never did this to Asian teams. Bdcause she knows they don't participate.

    But karakurt? Dang, she fights people even off court.

    Who the fuck decide what's excessive what is not? Based on what? Mr. "I only write compelling arguments"? Is the criteria your ass? Just because you are a terrible person yourself doesn't mean you are authority to decide what's too terrible and what's okay terrible :aww:

    Quote from hakin12

    Erdogan hasnt invaded a country and isnt waging a war, its a pivotal difference. Hence the situations are not really comparable.


    While there are violations of human rights in Turkey, it isnt really close to Russian level. Putin and his barbaric regime in Kremlin has killed hundreds of journalists and hundreds of businessmen during his time in power and Erdogan isnt remotely close to achieving such numbers.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…rnalists_killed_in_Russia

    Türkiye invaded Syria and is still occupying part of it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…upation_of_northern_Syria

    Quote from hakin12

    They occupied a part of the country but did not implement a full-scale invasion, its more akin to what Russia did in 2015 when they occupied Crimea. They are not waging a war against Syria.

    🤣 right. "Occupied" is different right? 🤣🤣 anyway, Brazilians, Italians, the Thais and almost everyone here except the Turks dislike Ebrar.

    That much is true.


    Moving on...