Transfer Rumors & Discussion (2024/2025)

    Quote from denzz

    I dont know for sure but some absurd amounts for local players paid by Turkish clubs. I mean absurd to me. Maybe with current economy its normal.
    300.000 $ for a local MB

    12.000.000 TL for local a NT OH (out of top 4)

    2.000.000 TL for an OH who was 4th OH in their team. Didn’t even see the court


    As i said this numbers are just rumors and might be normal with current economy/ local player pool

    I think I’ve read that Hande is getting paid 600k, which is absurd considering Gabi was at 800k and Kelsey much less in Imoco, also Arina and Ana 250k for 2022/23 season.. I know she is very valuable as local but still..

    Wolosz was rumored to be between 300-350k and I’m sure Cansu is getting similar sallary eventhough their level and consistency is uncomperable. I’m sure Orro, Sylla, Danesi etc.. are getting paid more then some of the similar or higher level foreigners in Italy as well.

    Quote from Cofi

    I think I’ve read that Hande is getting paid 600k, which is absurd considering Gabi was at 800k and Kelsey much less in Imoco, also Arina and Ana 250k for 2022/23 season.. I know she is very valuable as local but still..

    Wolosz was rumored to be between 300-350k and I’m sure Cansu is getting similar sallary eventhough their level and consistency is uncomperable. I’m sure Orro, Sylla, Danesi etc.. are getting paid more then some of the similar or higher level foreigners in Italy as well.

    The Italian situation is very diversified especially regarding the top teams and, despite what one might think, Imoco is not the team that pays the most: Wolosz has repeatedly said that in Turkey she would earn much more....

    Milan and Scandicci they pay much better: Scandicci in particular, is at the level of the Turkish teams...

    I don't think this is really true. Most Italian teams also have 5-6 foreigners in their team. It is not like Germany, which almost everyone in the team are foreigners. That's why I don't think your argument is valid in comparison with turkey. In turkey, only top 3 or 4 uses 5 foreigners anyways

    Quote from Sentenza_69

    The Italian clubs will certainly have a greater link with the large Italian sports agencies: this seems obvious to me...

    But I believe the reason is another and I say this at the risk of being misunderstood...

    I believe that in general Italy as a country is much more attractive than Turkey.

    Both are one of the most visited countries, yes overall Italy is probably the most known country in general so it will be slightly more attractive bcs of 'Orientalism' purposes esp. for NA countries, but overall that's not the reason.


    It is more about the terrible management of the league and clubs by TVF, they acted like they were exempt from critique because of their good results so I'm glad this season happened. Other than that I agree with denzz Def Italy has the better connections and pushed more, I mean I'm still shook the CEV, the regional federation literally streams Italian League in their own paid subscription, that's a huge investment in that specific league.


    Turkish league is considered a richer league than Italian league so it is normal for the salaries to be pushed a bit, to push volleyballs limits was kinda the point of the league, we see similar things in Russia and East Asia. A case can be made against Russia but I'm sure most people will love to live in Japan/Korea, especially if it's the people that are already somewhat 'uncultured' (as we assumed) and go by popularity or feel, Japan will probably sound very good to a typical person.


    A big issue for me is the monopolies in the league caused by the big clubs, they have a lot of influence on TVF's choices as well I mean VB even is a sponsor of the league! Top clubs are actively sabotaging bottom level clubs at times. We need teams like THY that don't shy away from a budget that challenge the top clubs, though it's hard now to combat them since the big clubs also have youth divisions to pull talents from. The nepotism is strong as well but also the top clubs actually sabotage their own players as well to keep them from improving other teams, they are really doubled edged swords. Other big corps like Ilbank and Karayollari even have decent youth factions but they don't mean to challenge the big clubs, they just mean to sell players and make profit off of the volleyball divisions, but their approach slows down a bit the pace of the league. The biggest problem is for teams with smaller sponsors and regional/municipality clubs and let's face it, they would be able to get a lot of talent and push the top teams quite a lot when it comes to pushing the league, think Nilufer, Kuzeyboru, Muratpasa (who were indeed not having any of VB completely disrespecting them and their transfers) etc. These are the teams we cherish, hope to see more teams from places like Izmir, Antalya, smaller cities and cities in the North/Central/East with time but the current climate makes it difficult at times.

    Quote from serdar

    I don't think this is really true. Most Italian teams also have 5-6 foreigners in their team. It is not like Germany, which almost everyone in the team are foreigners. That's why I don't think your argument is valid in comparison with turkey. In turkey, only top 3 or 4 uses 5 foreigners anyways

    Let’s take Imoco next season as example, OHs in particular. Having Lukasik and Lanier on bench will be the strongest OH bench in the world, combined with Gabi and Zhu which are already amongst best duos and they have the absolute best OH line up.


    Turkish teams, due to 5 foreigner limit, need to fill their bench with average local OHs.. further, that leads to them being in a position where they need their starting OH duo to be absolute best fit for the team with very little room to flop while Imoco starting duo can flop all they want, they have amazing bench so they don’t need particular best fit starters to carry the team in every game and they can negotiate their sallary much better (like they did with Zhu’s sallary for next season).

    Turkish team is looking for that 1 player on position to be absolute star cause there is no bench player in case they flop, if they find that player ofc they gonna do everything to get them including higher sallaries and that also gives such players very big room to negotiate much better sallary then they would in Italy.


    Being wanted by Turkish team therefor leaves much bigger room to ask for bigger sallary compared to Italian team cause they would just find another player who fits the team, or 2 of them slightly weaker but at the sallary equal of that 1 cause they can fit 2 foreigners for same spot while Turkey can’t.

    Again, that’s just my perspective for the matter, I like most people here have no idea of reasons behind the sallary difference.. it’s just makes sence for me.


    On that note, 5 foreigners total really limits Turkish teams big time and brings nothing to Turkish NT. You not gonna play bench players in your NT anyways and you certianly don’t want youngsters to be bench players for Vaki/Ecza/Fener.

    Quote from Sentenza_69

    IDK...

    but knowing Scandicci, this wouldn't surprise me...

    Given that they paid Adenizia 300K, giving 400K to Carol would seem absolutely legitimate to me...

    :whistle:

    I had no idea Ade made that much in Scandicci lol good for her


    I'm always curious about players salaries. Like it's none of my business ofc but I feel like there's a lot more transparency about it in other sports.

    Sorry but I can't follow your logic🤔 you say that Turkish teams try to get the best players to fill in their valuable foreigner spots however Conegliano example doesn't support your argument at all since they will have THE best OH duo in the world. If you would have given another team that has 4 average foreigner at the same point, it might support your argument. Especially Gabi example is really wrong because she literally went to Conegliano just because they will pay her more than Vakıfbank is willing to do.😅


    I also absolutely disagree with your comment on foreigner limit and Turkish NT. Thanks to foreigner limit Turkish nt has a wide pool of players that the coach can pick. A lot of young talents could get chance to play and showcase their skills thanks to foreigner limit. Both İlkin and Hande got the chance to be starter at a young age in recent years thanks to foreigner limit, otherwise they would be benched by other foreigners. And by playing as starter, now they become established players for NT. Also we have many many young middle players to choose from. Again thanks to foreigner limit, players like Deniz Uyanık, Bengisu Aygün etc shone this season and could be considered for wide roster of NT. Even increasing foreigner limit from 3 to 4 would have devastating impact on nt player pool because most like all clubs would choose at least one of their middles as foreigner since they only care about short term success instead of investing youngsters. There should be incentives like foreigner limit, to enforce clubs to invest their youth academy and allow them play as starters. Otherwise they would never do except a few very exceptional player


    There's absolutely no need to increase foreigner limit in Turkish league. Turkish clubs have been even more successful than Italian ones in a decade despite of foreign limit. Only this year they lost against Italians, but with a very small margin. This is not an excuse to sacrifice the benefits of the limit. 3 is perfect number to ensure enough competition by keeping the league level high as well as allowing a big number of Turkish players to play as full time starters