Awards for the Rising and flopping teams of Vnl 2024?
Imo most teams performed better than I expected, only except Turkey & USA. Turkey was affected by the numerous injuries, but USA was the real flop. The first week was completely wasted by Karch by bringing Cuttino, then when neither Thompson & Drews could deliver (as expected), they are like back to their Murphy era.
Display MoreMost of the time, I read your post with respect and many times I like however, this time I cannot let it go like this, since you are repeating the same, back to back.
1- #15 has a name. She is Martyna Czyrnianska and very well deserved to be called and recognized with her name
2- Back to back writing Cebcice which again is wrong and should be Cebecioğlu. Full Name Derya Cebecioğlu. Also Tuğba İvegin, not İvegen.
3- Reading back to back your opinion about Meliha. Yes Meliha is correct but only her name. I really wonder, what makes you think like that and bring her name here, back to back while İlkin, Hande and Ebrar are the main OH's of this team? Especially I wonder, what makes you avoiding to metion İlkin's name? Once again, if I say something or share any stats, people might jump in again that, I am doing it, because I am the fan of İlkin. In fact, there is nothing wrong with it but I am not bringing to your attention just because I like her, but I like and respect her consistent performance and personality through all the year, including previous VNL and Turkish League. Last year, up to quarterfinals (including quarterfinal), she played excellent with high level of attacks reception and digs with consistency. She broke Turkish OH'S all times records in scoring with 460 points in the season Sultanlar League, also with highest scoring ratio in Turkish OH's with 3.97 points/sets, Highest attacking ratio with 42% (a bit decline compared to last year), best receiver with 54% (better than Ayça (53%), Gizem Örge and Simge Aköz (52%). Probably, you are very influenced with many stupid comments at X (Twits). You cannot find much about İlkin there, since she is not a commercial person and not the player of Fener, Ecza or Vakıf. I will not share any other figures, comparing Meliha or others but I recommend you to check from official sites of TVF. Sooo, I would only say that, Meliha cannot be an option, if İlkin and Hande are in good shape, recovered from injury and if Ebrar takes a kind of rehabilitation. If any of these players are out because of any health issue, then maybe and may be next year, if Fener gives her more time in the team and if she manages to raise the bar.
4- Today, all our OH's performance was pathetic at attack with 1 digit or negative attack efficiency and truly was a miracle to win 2 sets from Poland and those 2 sets won because of Vargas.
4- I hope Martyna Czyrnianska keeps her shape and consistency. It would be joyful to watch her new team, just because of her existence there.
I just saw this. I made my apologies earlier. I am terrible remembering names and spelling for that matter, but I thought I got Tubag’s and Derya’s name correctly. Anyway, I like Meliha not because of what I read on X if any, instead of what I watched from FB games during this past season. IMHO she is way better than Tugba and Derya for sure. I have high hope for Ilkin as well. I think Turkiye needs to heal their wounds and get ready for the OG. If they want to go deep in OG they need Hande, Ilkin and Zehra for sure, and Meliha otherwise I don’t see much hope prevailing against Italy, Brazil, and perhaps against some other teams like China, Japan and Serbia.
I also think contrary to what you believe that Ana C. is overall playing very well. Sure, she may have some down games but over all she is very important for Brazil to succeed getting the gold medal. Will see!!
Imo most teams performed better than I expected, only except Turkey & USA. Turkey was affected by the numerous injuries, but USA was the real flop. The first week was completely wasted by Karch by bringing Cuttino, then when neither Thompson & Drews could deliver (as expected), they are like back to their Murphy era.
i remember Karsta Lowe, she was really good!!!
I'm curious about the dream team now. Japan played great as a collective, but looking at the tournament as a whole, I can't name anyone aside from Koga who was really a standout in their position. Both Kojima and Fukudome are great, but it's hard to get a best libero award when you're playing in a two libero system.
IMO Carol, Gabi and Nyeme had a really good chance of making the dream team if Brazil had gone to the final, but now I think only Carol will get it. She leads the blocking statistics for both the competition as a whole and the finals by a good margin, and no one from Japan is realistically going to be named best MB (though Airi was great today). The other MB should be Danesi.
Egonu is a lock, of course.
What are you guys' predictions for the dream team?
Display MoreI'm curious about the dream team now. Japan played great as a collective, but looking at the tournament as a whole, I can't name anyone aside from Koga who was really a standout in their position. Both Kojima and Fukudome are great, but it's hard to get a best libero award when you're playing in a two libero system.
IMO Carol, Gabi and Nyeme had a really good chance of making the dream team if Brazil had gone to the final, but now I think only Carol will get it. She leads the blocking statistics for both the competition as a whole and the finals by a good margin, and no one from Japan is realistically going to be named best MB (though Airi was great today). The other MB should be Danesi.
Egonu is a lock, of course.
What are you guys' predictions for the dream team?
OH: Gabi, Koga
OPP: Egonu
S: Orro
MB: Danesi, Carol
L: Nyeme (although they might choose Kojima bc third placed team can't have more players in the dream team than second placed)
MVP: Egonu
Special award: Sylla
Display MoreOH: Gabi, Koga
OPP: Egonu
S: Orro
MB: Danesi, Carol
L: Nyeme (although they might choose Kojima bc third placed team can't have more players in the dream team than second placed)
MVP: Egonu
Special award: Sylla
I think the same, but there is no way 3rd placed team to have 2 players. Realistically Carol, because there is no 2 other blockers, but it will be hard for them to forget Gabi.
Orro, Kojima, Koga, Danesi, Egonu are locked. My pick for for a second hitter is Degradi 
Display MoreI'm curious about the dream team now. Japan played great as a collective, but looking at the tournament as a whole, I can't name anyone aside from Koga who was really a standout in their position. Both Kojima and Fukudome are great, but it's hard to get a best libero award when you're playing in a two libero system.
IMO Carol, Gabi and Nyeme had a really good chance of making the dream team if Brazil had gone to the final, but now I think only Carol will get it. She leads the blocking statistics for both the competition as a whole and the finals by a good margin, and no one from Japan is realistically going to be named best MB (though Airi was great today). The other MB should be Danesi.
Egonu is a lock, of course.
What are you guys' predictions for the dream team?
MVP: Egonu / Koga (Depends on who wins the gold)
OH: Koga, Gabi (or Sylla has a chance if Italy wins)
OPP: Egonu
S: Orro
MB: Danesi, Carol (or Thaisa?)
L: most likely MDG, but if Japan wins I think Kojima may have a chance
Is there no chance for Iwasaki to be Best Setter? I think she was the game changer for JPN tbh.
Is there no chance for Iwasaki to be Best Setter? I think she was the game changer for JPN tbh.
I think that if Japan wins tomorrow she will get it, I doubt they're giving more awards to 2nd than the winner and I don't see any of the middles being awarded or the opposite over Egonu
Orro best blocker
I think Poland is gonna be more motivated to win the bronze than Brazil tbh
Awards for the Rising and flopping teams of Vnl 2024?
Rising:
1. Italy
2. Brazil
3. Japan
Flopping
1. USA
2. Turkey
3. China
Italy seems to be a level above their last year performance. Brazil is definitely better than last year too but not a great increase like Italy. Japan has improved their mentality which is huge in decisive moments.
USA is the biggest concern, ever since the loss to Turkey in the VNL SF last year the teams aura seems different. It’s like a number of players have lost confidence in themselves. In any game you could count on USA to fight back even if they were 2-0 down, the same energy doesn’t seem to exist anymore even though it kinda appeared in a few moments during week 3. They have a lot of work to do before Paris.
For Turkey I understand they are battling with a lot of injuries and the tight roster decisions by Santarelli was definitely unfair on the girls. They should have just did the same thing as Serbia and rested their key players. Only playing Vargas with Elif/Cansu from the A team with Asli, Yasemin, Beyza and Meliha, Derya, Tugba etc.. With Eda, Karakurt, Hande, Zehra, Ilkin all staying in Turkey. Even with the injuries I feel like they should have got past Poland and played with Italy at least but I guess the morale was really low.
I expected China to play all their stars and go all guns blazing this year both in VNL and Paris but I guess it is what it is.
I think Poland is gonna be more motivated to win the bronze than Brazil tbh
nah, Brazil is motivated too. They were so close for the gold so definitely they will play.
Even tho she missed some matches I don't have a problem giving Poland #5 Korneluk an MB award
Kurtagic still statistically best blocker by a mile, 4.12 per game
Kurtagic still statistically best blocker by a mile, 4.12 per game
I would have mentioned her too but I didn’t see her on the SRB roster so I lost confidence
I think Poland is gonna be more motivated to win the bronze than Brazil tbh
ya but the level of quality is different (with all due respect to poland)
Carol really is the best MB in this tournament.
ya but the level of quality is different (with all due respect to poland)
They have quality, they dont have fresh legs
They have quality, they dont have fresh legs
I don't think it is as big of an effect as we think.